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  1. 15 points
    Hail the Tripod

    THE REMAIN TRAP

    That's exactly what we voted for. It's amazing how the public discourse has been massaged to the point where it is assumed that Brexit requires a "deal". We were presented in the referendum with the "best" new deal Call me Dave could renegotiate or just leave outright , and we voted "No, not the new deal, we'd rather leave". We didn't vote for another renegotiation; we voted to leave! I suppose it was assumed the politicians and civil servants would spend the two years disentangling the regulatory framework rather than assuming it wasn't going to happen, so it'll be harder in the short term than it should have been. The opportunity for a relatively well ordered sundering has been wasted. A good deal was never on the table, because it sets a precedent for fragmentation of their 4th reich.
  2. 15 points
    Why isn't there more diversity in Beauty Therapy? I think the government should give lorry driver's grants to retrain as Beauty Therapists. I reckon Big Dave's grip, honed from years of prostitute strangling, would be ideally suited to massaging too. The tragedy is, in a female dominated industry, I just don't think he'll be taken seriously.
  3. 12 points
    Austin Allegro

    THE REMAIN TRAP

    This is where things like BBC bias come into their own. The 'no deal' Brexit is always presented as the end of the world, the worst case scenario etc, when in fact as somebody (Jonathan Davis?) points out, it is Brexit on WTO terms, there is no such thing as a 'no deal'. The whole thing is intended to promote the idea that EU membership is unassailable.
  4. 11 points
    Bedrag Justesen

    Bye bye Treason May?

    No deal and stay. The Conservative election campaign only failed to lose, narrowly, because the British voter is mostly terrified of Wilfrid Brambell in Number 10. The plan was to let the Labour Party fail to successfully negotiate BREXIT. When that didn't work out the next plan was to put together a draft BREXIT agreement, with the tacit agreement of Merkel and the rest of her EU. The agreement had to be universally unacceptable to all sides, Conservative, Labour, SNP, DUP, and all the insignificant little parties. The tactic depended on Parliament having a 'meaningful' final say on the deal. This required Gina Miller successfully winning her legal action. The Parliamentarians would not be able to vote for the agreement, whether they were REMAIN or LEAVE. Sufficient numbers would resign from cabinet positions to destabilise the government. The DUP would withdraw confidence and supply. The Labour Party would become impossibly split. Sir Keir Starmer will defuse Brambell by pushing for another Peoples Vote. The great and the good will come out to strongly support calling BREXIT off completely. The ERG will organise their putsch. May will survive her no-confidence vote and be PM for another twelve months or be gone. Either way BREXIT is DEAD. Everything is theatre. When you have more than two years of the Official State Propaganda Machine ( BBC. Newspapers. Radio and online), and Unofficial State Propaganda Machine (ITV, C4, C5 and Sky) heavily pushing Project Fear you know their objective is to frighten voters they will lose their jobs and be worse off unless they REMAIN in the EU. The EU could negotiate a deal similar to Japan. They won't, because the UK must not only be worse off outside the EU, it must be seen to be worse off outside the EU. Except..... The great unwashed of today are different to how we were in 2016. We have seen the God Emperor President Trump calling out Fake News. The MSM no longer holds the power it once had. We are more woke. C4 News Krishnan Guru Murthy gave a perfect example when he asked Tony Blair whether his intervention has harmed the REMAIN cause, because whatever Blair thinks, people will do the opposite. The Peoples Vote campaign has the same problem, most of those pushing for another referendum are on our shitlist. Whatever they say we believe the opposite to be true. Every time Alastair Campbell shows up to talk us into a Peoples Vote his interviewer will ask him about taking us into Iraq. Completely discredited. Chuka Umunna, we see straight through him. Same with all the other REMAIN NPC pretending they care about democracy, the will of the people must be paramount. How many times have we seen politicians with previously ZERO interest in Northern Ireland politics or history suddenly argue the 'hard border' issue is insoluble because the people of Ireland are so important. Bollocks. The NI border is only so difficult because the EU make it so. So. Look. Listen. Let's be perfectly clear. 'THEY' think they can completely cancel BREXIT. Either they replace May, or keep May. Hold another referendum or don't. 'THEY' are in control. Are they really ? Maybe BREXIT is like trying to put toothpaste back in the tube. No deal and exit or no deal and stay ? Things will never be the same either way.
  5. 10 points
  6. 10 points
    I agree, there's a shocking lack of gender diversity within the scaffolding industry too. This outrage needs rectifying immediately and if women aren't queuing up for the chance to lug heavy steel scaffold up buildings in the pissing rain then we'll make them do it. Of course they will thank us for giving them the opportunity as this sort of equality is clearly what they've always wanted. It's for the good of society, comrades.
  7. 10 points
    PeptoAbysmal

    Bye bye Treason May?

    I've been watching the debates regarding Brexit and the Brexit deal for some time now. What strikes me is that there are a tumult of voices vehemently declaring that the "uncertainty over Brexit" is harming business, that a no deal, or a bad deal, would be an economic disaster for the UK, with absolutely no belief in the people of the United Kingdom, nor any expectation that we could be possibly survive without the nurturing teat of the EU. Worse, the pro-Brexit voices, have provided no convincing rebuttal to these vague threats of impending doom, and further, are now just tutting and sniping over the recently agreed negotiations with the EU, that few politicians in the UK seem able to support (be they on the remain or leave side of the argument). Where are the patriotic, practical, voices in all of this? Where is the politician, or leader apparent, with confidence in the UK, and themselves, to inspire and say, "I don't care about a deal, the UK is a innovative nation full of clever and industrious people, and despite so called uncertainty, or difficulties that might be caused by EU bureaucrats trying to make trouble for the UK, we're going to offset this with significant cuts in taxation, significant repeals of previous EU regulations that strangle innovation and business, and damn well compete our way out of this and win."
  8. 8 points
    satch

    Bye bye Treason May?

    Seems quiet but ....... Muffled sounds from deep inside 10 Downing Street; ‘… BASTARDS BASTARDS BASTARDS they are all bastards and bitches, every last one of them.’ In a darkened room Theresa moves slowly and stands at a lectern and starts. Sometimes mumbling, sometimes shouting, she reads the words of TF50 (2018), the words that define her life, her very being; The Draft Withdrawal Agreement. In one corner of the room is a small pile of dolls; a bald blond Sindy, it was her favourite, Theresa used to call her my special one, my Esther. But now Esther has had her beautiful long blond locks torn and hacked out. Next to Esther, the now headless blond clown Boris Buffoon and a Lord Snooty dressed only in his nappy with two drawn on black eyes and a red bloody nose. In the other corner in a grand leather chair the person who is both Theresa’s heroine and nemesis, the dark shadow that occupies her every thought and action. The person that Theresa loves and hates and who has driven Theresa to the edge of insanity and beyond. Sat bolt upright in the chair the exhumed body of Baroness Thatcher stares across the room in silence as only the dead can do. Meanwhile in the Rees-Mogg residence Nanny has spoken; ‘Jacob, now you have a nice new clean nappy on, your fountain pen is full and the vellum is laid out for you on your school writing desk. Now compose your magnum opus which must be done ‘quam celerrime hodie’ (as quickly as possible today); it must have an appropriate title, so use this … ‘Veni ad pythonissam, vidi te occisus est’ (I came I saw I killed the witch). Nanny continued; ‘If you fail this test you will be given no sustenance other than thin gruel and stale bread until that old insane witch Mrs May has been vanquished. Carpe diem my little man carpe diem.’ ‘Yes, Nanny’ replied Jacob and continued ’There is a tide in the affairs of man …’. ‘Enough’ said Nanny ‘Get on with it your country awaits, this is the hour of your destiny.’
  9. 8 points
    Errol

    Bye bye Treason May?

    They should just ring up the EU and say 'Right, we've left now. Bye'. This should have been done the day after the referendum.
  10. 8 points
    PeptoAbysmal

    THE REMAIN TRAP

    I don't know why we are so scared of the EU, it's just a giant protection racket, that introduces over 300 new laws and regulations every month that individuals and small businesses cannot comply with. The result being that in another 20 years the only businesses left trading on the continent will be a small group of useless industrial behemoths rather like the former British Leyland, creating useless goods, that nobody wants, at a huge loss. All the while being swamped by low skilled labour from the third world, consuming vasts amounts of resources in the form of welfare. The UK is also a net contributor to the EU, if we were to walk away, we could use the extra money to lower taxes and cut some of the worst EU regulations foisted upon us in the last 30 years, which would easily smooth out any uncertainties/ups and downs after leaving. Give it another 5 years and the EU will be begging the UK for access to our market.
  11. 8 points
    The Generation Game

    THE REMAIN TRAP

    Indeed. It should have been "Right, we're off. What current rules do you want to keep and here's what we want in exchange for that?"
  12. 8 points
    It's because these clueless dickheads still believe there's a lack of diversity because of WASISM/SEXISM!!! And they have to believe it because these talentless hacks wouldn't have a job without it. This isn't journalism, it's political activism pretending to be journalism and I'm sick to the fucking teeth of it.
  13. 8 points
    Harley

    Bye bye Treason May?

    I'd rather die a free man than live as a slave. I really mean that. I've had a good run (in its broadest sense) and I'm not going to undermine that now. I'm now at that point where how I live and exit this world are more important than ever.
  14. 8 points
    Mental Floss

    Bye bye Treason May?

    I try and avoid negativity and hate. However, at times my resolve is tested. A shambles of a woman in charge of a shambles of a government opposed by a shambles of an opposition. pretty much the only thing binding the whole shoddy edifice together is a collective desire to in some way thwart the will of a significant proportion of the British populace. My view is the fix is in. There will be some bluster, but this monumental fudge is not about what's best for the U.K. Its about providing the political class with a way of saying "we have respected the referendum" whilst kowtowing to their European masters. We are now so weak it'll work too.
  15. 7 points
    XswampyX

    Bye bye Treason May?

    Why wouldn't they? How come the Brexit secretary didn't know fuck all about this until last night? It's un-fucking-believable!
  16. 7 points
    Typical BBC propaganda piece. Use words like "control", "manage". Downplay the cure. Interview a normie simpleton like the fat black lady. Refer obliquely to a "healthy diet and active lifestyle". Er no, It's an ultra-low calorie diet maintained for 6+ weeks. 50+% success rate. Exercise is irrelevant. Why the fuck do they do this? People are losing their eyesight and having limbs hacked off because these cnts must preserve the status quo at all costs. And I'll repeat what I've said before: If a disease like diabetes is patently awash with official disinformation, what does it say about mainstream dictums on cancer and heart disease?
  17. 7 points
    Happy Renting

    THE REMAIN TRAP

    Article 50 specifies 2 years for negotiating leave terms. The default position has always been a 'Hard Brexit' unless other terms are negotiated. The Government and Opposition were both totally unprepared for a Leave vote, wasting the opportunity (rather, obligation) to prepare contingency plans and policies well before the Referendum. After election as party leader May then jumped the gun by invoking Article 50 prematurely without any clear plan about what we wanted after leaving. (The idiot Cоrbyn actually wanted to invoke article 50 immediately after the Referendum, without preparation or a plan which was even more stupid - so Leaving under Cоrbyn would actually have been worse still.) She then weakened her position in the UK by calling a General Election and fucking that up. May totally failed to prepare for the default Hard Brexit, which was criminally negligent and also fatally weakened the UK's negotiating position. We were under no obligation to make settlement payments to the EU. The EU sells more to us than we sell to them. They need our trade more than we need theirs. The EU has more vulnerable nationals in the UK than the UK has in the EU (?). May then threw away our strong negotiating hand and allowed the EU to dictate the whole negotiating process. We are 'led' by morons.
  18. 7 points
    You can't force tech out of people just as you can't force viable patents out of people. You either have the naturally gifted talent or you don't, creativity cannot be learnt you have ot from day 1 and it just requires nurturing. A lot of people do not have the gift, you can argue about it being genetic but the counter is that the Chinese have it in spades. Having quotas for diversity and inclusion is a sure fire way becoming incompetitive and gifting the sector to China.
  19. 7 points
    sleepwello'nights

    Bye bye Treason May?

    And then what? The negotiations have been badly handled from the outset. We import more goods from the EU than they import from us. We are one of the most important markets for their goods. can you really see BMW, Mercedes or Volkswagen, to take one of the most visible trade areas, refusing to deal with us. If punitive tariffs or obstacles to trade were imposed by the EU then surely we would retaliate in a similar vein. That would be in neither parties interests but would hurt the EU more. I haven't even considered agricultural product, our milk farmers would benefit, our fishing industry would benefit. Perhaps some golf courses would be returned to agricultural production. We have a very strong aerospace industry that could be capitalised on. I can't see the EU being successful in restricting travel arrangements much either. I'm sure there are more British people holidaying in Europe than vice versa. Again they would be shooting themselves in the foot. VAT having to be paid on European imports would have an impact on cashflow for some businesses, that could be countered by using the money we currently pay into EU coffers being used to reduce the standard rate of VAT on certain goods. Our trade standards and product quality are amongst the best in the world, the lack of EU certification would be countered by substitution with our own that are hjust as highly regarded. Freedom of movement or mobility to me isn't that big a deal anyway. If a UK citizen wants to work in Europe then their languages have always presented us with a barrier, not so the other way, again EU citizens would be more disadvantaged. I have always been at a loss to see why our negotiating teams were so weak.
  20. 7 points
    Bus Stop Boxer

    Not buying EU Products

    "We need more growth...." next day.... "look at all that fucking plastic"
  21. 6 points
    Sucralose Ray Leonard

    Dead by Christmas

    Probably already had more than 72 virgins and didn't have to blow himself up in the process.
  22. 6 points
    JackieO

    Bye bye Treason May?

    If she was a Christian, she would have some humility, accept she is not liked or wanted and go. Instead she disrespects the will of the people, conservative members and a growing number of MP's. Being a liar and a bully is not very Christian. Instead she has the dictatorial air of another religion. Planted, bought and paid for like Barry and Brennan? Loves headscarves and met her husband through a friendship with Benazir back in the day at Oxford.... She has the safest Tory seat in the country with a now 64% majority which she was she walked into after leaving her position at the Bank of England in 1997. What are the chances of getting that leg up at your first try? JRM had to try a number of times before even winning a seat Nowt to see here......
  23. 6 points
    One percent

    Dead by Christmas

    I feel he deserves some reps for his stance. Given the cult like status of Islam, he knows the consequences and still did it. Much respect. Need more to do this.
  24. 6 points
    Long time lurking

    Bye bye Treason May?

    If she says i think what the British people want us to do once fucking more Someone tell her there`s 17.4 million people out there wishing she would die It`s truly bizarre,in a scary sort of way
  25. 6 points
    The Masked Tulip

    Bye bye Treason May?

    Ah, she thinks a condescending speech will work - again.
  26. 6 points
    Austin Allegro

    Bye bye Treason May?

    I can't help noticing the timing of all this. Only last Sunday we commemorated the end of the greatest sacrifice ever made for the preservation of this country and its way of life. A few self-serving bureaucrats, with little imagination and fewer principles, then sell us down the line to a foreign power, while having the audacity to stand at the Cenotaph in solemn memorial. They might as well just have spat on the tomb of the countless, nameless dead of Flanders and Gallipoli. They have given us into the hand of new unhappy lords, Lords without anger or honour, who dare not carry their swords. They fight by shuffling papers; they have bright dead alien eyes; They look at our labour and laughter as a tired man looks at flies. And the load of their loveless pity is worse than the ancient wrongs, Their doors are shut in the evening; and they know no songs. (GK Chesterton)
  27. 6 points
    spunko

    Bye bye Treason May?

    How disappointing to wake up and see nobody has resigned...
  28. 5 points
    Van Lady

    Black Friday deals

    That made me laugh Back in the day I watched that with the rest of the family before heading out. Good fun and nothing else to watch anyway. I suppose it’s part of getting older but I really miss how life was pre internet. It was much simpler and better IMO. The constant bombardment and expansion of “sales” from sellers these days is starting to reek of growing desperation and competition to offload their stuff.
  29. 5 points
    This Time

    Bye bye Treason May?

    Every time her voice shakes I get my hopes up that she's about to drop dead in front of us.
  30. 5 points
    Happy Renting

    THE REMAIN TRAP

    I have pointed out that there is not enough time to hold a Second Referendum as things stand. So this is what I think will happen: While the UK is blowing around like a fart in a colander wondering whether to have a Tory Leadership Contest/General Election/Second Referendum, the EU will meet in secret. They will then generously announce they are giving us 3 extra months to sort things out. It is called "giving the UK enough rope to hang itself." They will then do everything possible behind the scenes to get us to hold a second Referendum, and vote Remain. Once that trap is set, and we have painted ourselves into a corner, they will totally butt-rape us as explained in my OP. The Quislings in the UK Parliament will then be rewarded with EU tax-free sinecures, or strung up from lamp-posts across the UK. Time will tell. Just watch.
  31. 5 points
    wherebee

    Bye bye Treason May?

    +1 for LOLS. If you think in 20-40 years when most of us will be old that a white, aged individual will be treated well in most parts of the NHS, you are dreaming.
  32. 5 points
    JackieO

    Bye bye Treason May?

    JRM has put his letter in
  33. 5 points
    Happy Renting

    THE REMAIN TRAP

    Okay then, Oxymorons.
  34. 5 points
    Fucking Guardian. OK I work in tech, have done for 30 years and shock/horror I'm a woman and have never seen any bar to women or anyone else. In fact my last boss was a woman and an epic bitch too. Anyway as for diversity colleagues have been afro-carribean, ukrainian, brazilian, dutch, syrian, sudanese, pakistani, indian, sri lankan, chinese, mauritian, irish, mancunians, a trans (big feet/hands), gays, an sjw, a couple of wiganers but no one from Yorkshire......
  35. 5 points
    Quite. Add teaching, medicine, dental hygiene, veterinary science, nursing and hair dressing to the list.
  36. 5 points
    WorkingPoor

    Bye bye Treason May?

    We were always going to be betrayed i could see it from day 1 i have had to wait 2+ years for all those who believed the bullshit to actually see for themselves all that remains is sustained mass countrywide peaceful protest
  37. 5 points
    The Masked Tulip

    Bye bye Treason May?

    First cabinet resignation - oddly enough, from a remainer who says it will keep us shackled to the EU and stop us being a sovereign nation. “I write to offer my resignation as a Minister in your Goverment. I do so with sadness but I cannot support the Withdrawal Agreement that has been agreed with the European Union. The EU Referendum offered a simple choice — to either stay in or leave the EU. The result was decisive with the UK public voting to leave and that is what we, their elected representatives, must deliver. The Agreement put forward however, does not do that as it leaves the UK in a half-way house with no time limit on when we will finally be a sovereign nation. Given the past performance of the EU, there is every possibility that the UK-EU trade deal that we seek will take years to conclude. We will be locked in a Customs Arrangement indefinitely, bound by rules determined by the EU over which we have no say. Worse, we will not be free to leave the Customs Arrangement unilaterally if we wish to do so. Northern Ireland in the meantime will be subject to a different relationship with the EU from the rest of the UK and whilst I agree there should be no hard border between Northern Ireland and lreland the economic and constitutional integrity of the United Kingdom must be respected. With respect Prime Minister, this Agreement does not provide for the United Kingdom being a sovereign, independent country leaving the shackles of the EU, however it is worded. We are a proud nation and it is a sad day when we are reduced to obeying rules made by other countries who have shown that they do not have our best interests at heart. We can and must do better than this. The people of the UK deserve better. That is why I cannot support this Agreement. It has been an honour and privilege to serve as a Minister in the Northern Ireland Office and I leave with the fondest of memories.”
  38. 5 points
    Gloommonger

    Eu draft proposal thread

    So our cabinet had the biggest decision of their political lives, one of the biggest in our history and they have a few hours to read the document and aren't allowed to vote on it. We have surrendered to the EU. Just 3 days after Armistice day. This is the definition of treason. A fucking disgrace.
  39. 4 points
    Shaneyson

    Black Friday deals

    You reminded me of the Generation Game with this list.
  40. 4 points
    twocents

    Bye bye Treason May?

    It's in the national interest.
  41. 4 points
    Van Lady

    Black Friday deals

    BIB Just like sales have expanded from prescribed days and time of the year to all year the Black Friday creep has started. I’ve noticed it growing since it started. Just a new name for sale to hook people in. Useful if you aren’t an impulse buyer though!
  42. 4 points
    Nothing cold about them. Here they are leaving church, 12th May 2007; what would have been Madeleine's 4th birthday and just nine days after she disappeared.
  43. 4 points
    This Time

    Bye bye Treason May?

    Fucking bitch made that sound like a resignation speech at the start. Bet she did that on purpose.
  44. 4 points
    Bedrag Justesen

    Bye bye Treason May?

    May has learned from her election campaign. Make a manifesto so unappealing nobody will vote for it. EU draft agreement needed to be much worse just to be on safe side. The real plan is no deal. Any deal acceptable to EU is by definition a bad deal for UK.
  45. 4 points
    wherebee

    Bye bye Treason May?

    Never assign to design what can better be explained by stupidity.
  46. 4 points
    onlyme

    Bye bye Treason May?

    In one regard Brexit has worked wonders and exceeded all early expectations - Exposing those in parliament, the media and big business that have loyalties somewhat or almost totally elsewhere. Edit sp.
  47. 4 points
    onlyme

    THE REMAIN TRAP

    May is puppet with 27 fists up her arse.
  48. 4 points
    Mental Floss

    THE REMAIN TRAP

    I'm so astounded by the gobshitery that May displays I can barely believe anyone is so stupid. By trying to play the middle ground, you lose any of the benefits of either end of the spectrum. At this point either: Fully throwing our weight behind euro lunacy and taking as much as we can from that corrupt edifice OR Accepting the the EU are not serious about achieving a deal and therefore leaving with no agreement are both FAR superior to the bollocks May is trying to foist upon us. Thing is she isn't a leader, shes a follower so the idea of vassalage doesn't worry her.
  49. 4 points
    unregistered_guest

    Trump's progress

    It sounds like one of those word puzzles: Mistouch is to assault as misspeak is to 1) Lie 2) Silence 3) Stutter
  50. 4 points