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    sleepwello'nights got a reaction from Cunning Plan in Katie Hopkins - an expensive lesson   
    I have personal experience, unfortunately, and it didn't work for me as you say. Perhaps my situation was different in that I hadn't run out of money, just forgot to attend court on a date after a protracted dispute with an dishonest supplier. Anyway I negotiated settlements with my creditors and continued with my life, feeling very sore and miffed with our legal system. I ended up well out of pocket because I refused to accept that the legal fees charged were reasonable and ended up even more out of pocket. 
    To this day if I saw an insolvency practitioner on fire in the street I wouldn't spit on him or her.
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    sleepwello'nights got a reaction from ThePiltdownMan in Katie Hopkins - an expensive lesson   
    http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/format.cgi?doc=/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2017/433.html&query=(monroe)+AND+(v)+AND+(hopkins)
    Having read the judgement I cant see how the judge thinks that "serious harm" has been caused to Jack Monroe's reputation. Who I've never heard of until today. He says that there were a number of tweets, a torrent according to Monroe's lawyers, but it did not seem to him that the views were changed by Hopkin's "defamatory" accusation, the views that the Twitters had were probably held by them before, either in support or against.
    Mr Justice Warby then goes on, and on, and on, to say:
    10) National and international media coverage of the tweets complained of, Ms Monroe's reaction to them, "and the matter generally" on 19 May 2015. Nine articles are relied on. Three are in mainstream English newspapers (Metro, The Mirror and The Independent). The others are in the Belfast Telegraph, the Huffington Post, and a range of lesser known outlets. All are said to have been published "within hours". I am invited to infer that their publication meant that anyone with an interest in either party will have become aware that Ms Hopkins had made a mistake, Ms Monroe denied having vandalised anything, and intended to sue, that there was no attempt to justify what had been said. It is also suggested, in mitigation, that readers of these media would have realised that "the claimant considered that she could make £5,000 in damages because of the tweets" (sic). This last contention seems to me offensive in its formulation, implying that compensation would be some kind of gain for the claimant. Otherwise, I would not attach any great weight to this point. The majority of the media coverage was in publications of the left, and it is not likely there was a substantial overlap with the defendant's own readership. The coverage did not amount to an authoritative or comprehensive refutation of the original allegation. As Mr Bennett points out, there was a potentially harmful impact of this publication, as it brought the whole matter to the attention of a fresh audience.
    It seems he accepted that it was the publication of the spat by left wing media that brought the matter to a wider audience and that because they were left wing publications they would have supported Monroe and criticised Hopkins. Potentially harmful does not support a finding of actual harm, to my mind.
    What a shame Hopkins lost. She may be strongly opinionated but I am generally in agreement with her on the harm that uncontrolled immigration is causing this country and Western democracies.
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    sleepwello'nights got a reaction from Cunning Plan in Katie Hopkins - an expensive lesson   
    I have personal experience, unfortunately, and it didn't work for me as you say. Perhaps my situation was different in that I hadn't run out of money, just forgot to attend court on a date after a protracted dispute with an dishonest supplier. Anyway I negotiated settlements with my creditors and continued with my life, feeling very sore and miffed with our legal system. I ended up well out of pocket because I refused to accept that the legal fees charged were reasonable and ended up even more out of pocket. 
    To this day if I saw an insolvency practitioner on fire in the street I wouldn't spit on him or her.
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    sleepwello'nights got a reaction from onlyme in Katie Hopkins - an expensive lesson   
    With an IVA you arrange through a Licensed Insolvency Practitioner a plan to repay your creditors all or part of your debts. There is no requirement to pay all your surplus into it. Another advantage is that you retain control of your assets as opposed to a Bankruptcy when the Official Receiver takes control of all your assets and sells them to obtain their fees and use what remains to settle your creditors.  
    https://www.gov.uk/options-for-paying-off-your-debts/individual-voluntary-arrangements
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    sleepwello'nights got a reaction from ThePiltdownMan in Katie Hopkins - an expensive lesson   
    http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/format.cgi?doc=/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2017/433.html&query=(monroe)+AND+(v)+AND+(hopkins)
    Having read the judgement I cant see how the judge thinks that "serious harm" has been caused to Jack Monroe's reputation. Who I've never heard of until today. He says that there were a number of tweets, a torrent according to Monroe's lawyers, but it did not seem to him that the views were changed by Hopkin's "defamatory" accusation, the views that the Twitters had were probably held by them before, either in support or against.
    Mr Justice Warby then goes on, and on, and on, to say:
    10) National and international media coverage of the tweets complained of, Ms Monroe's reaction to them, "and the matter generally" on 19 May 2015. Nine articles are relied on. Three are in mainstream English newspapers (Metro, The Mirror and The Independent). The others are in the Belfast Telegraph, the Huffington Post, and a range of lesser known outlets. All are said to have been published "within hours". I am invited to infer that their publication meant that anyone with an interest in either party will have become aware that Ms Hopkins had made a mistake, Ms Monroe denied having vandalised anything, and intended to sue, that there was no attempt to justify what had been said. It is also suggested, in mitigation, that readers of these media would have realised that "the claimant considered that she could make £5,000 in damages because of the tweets" (sic). This last contention seems to me offensive in its formulation, implying that compensation would be some kind of gain for the claimant. Otherwise, I would not attach any great weight to this point. The majority of the media coverage was in publications of the left, and it is not likely there was a substantial overlap with the defendant's own readership. The coverage did not amount to an authoritative or comprehensive refutation of the original allegation. As Mr Bennett points out, there was a potentially harmful impact of this publication, as it brought the whole matter to the attention of a fresh audience.
    It seems he accepted that it was the publication of the spat by left wing media that brought the matter to a wider audience and that because they were left wing publications they would have supported Monroe and criticised Hopkins. Potentially harmful does not support a finding of actual harm, to my mind.
    What a shame Hopkins lost. She may be strongly opinionated but I am generally in agreement with her on the harm that uncontrolled immigration is causing this country and Western democracies.
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    sleepwello'nights got a reaction from ThePiltdownMan in Katie Hopkins - an expensive lesson   
    http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/format.cgi?doc=/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2017/433.html&query=(monroe)+AND+(v)+AND+(hopkins)
    Having read the judgement I cant see how the judge thinks that "serious harm" has been caused to Jack Monroe's reputation. Who I've never heard of until today. He says that there were a number of tweets, a torrent according to Monroe's lawyers, but it did not seem to him that the views were changed by Hopkin's "defamatory" accusation, the views that the Twitters had were probably held by them before, either in support or against.
    Mr Justice Warby then goes on, and on, and on, to say:
    10) National and international media coverage of the tweets complained of, Ms Monroe's reaction to them, "and the matter generally" on 19 May 2015. Nine articles are relied on. Three are in mainstream English newspapers (Metro, The Mirror and The Independent). The others are in the Belfast Telegraph, the Huffington Post, and a range of lesser known outlets. All are said to have been published "within hours". I am invited to infer that their publication meant that anyone with an interest in either party will have become aware that Ms Hopkins had made a mistake, Ms Monroe denied having vandalised anything, and intended to sue, that there was no attempt to justify what had been said. It is also suggested, in mitigation, that readers of these media would have realised that "the claimant considered that she could make £5,000 in damages because of the tweets" (sic). This last contention seems to me offensive in its formulation, implying that compensation would be some kind of gain for the claimant. Otherwise, I would not attach any great weight to this point. The majority of the media coverage was in publications of the left, and it is not likely there was a substantial overlap with the defendant's own readership. The coverage did not amount to an authoritative or comprehensive refutation of the original allegation. As Mr Bennett points out, there was a potentially harmful impact of this publication, as it brought the whole matter to the attention of a fresh audience.
    It seems he accepted that it was the publication of the spat by left wing media that brought the matter to a wider audience and that because they were left wing publications they would have supported Monroe and criticised Hopkins. Potentially harmful does not support a finding of actual harm, to my mind.
    What a shame Hopkins lost. She may be strongly opinionated but I am generally in agreement with her on the harm that uncontrolled immigration is causing this country and Western democracies.
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    sleepwello'nights got a reaction from ThePiltdownMan in Katie Hopkins - an expensive lesson   
    http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/format.cgi?doc=/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2017/433.html&query=(monroe)+AND+(v)+AND+(hopkins)
    Having read the judgement I cant see how the judge thinks that "serious harm" has been caused to Jack Monroe's reputation. Who I've never heard of until today. He says that there were a number of tweets, a torrent according to Monroe's lawyers, but it did not seem to him that the views were changed by Hopkin's "defamatory" accusation, the views that the Twitters had were probably held by them before, either in support or against.
    Mr Justice Warby then goes on, and on, and on, to say:
    10) National and international media coverage of the tweets complained of, Ms Monroe's reaction to them, "and the matter generally" on 19 May 2015. Nine articles are relied on. Three are in mainstream English newspapers (Metro, The Mirror and The Independent). The others are in the Belfast Telegraph, the Huffington Post, and a range of lesser known outlets. All are said to have been published "within hours". I am invited to infer that their publication meant that anyone with an interest in either party will have become aware that Ms Hopkins had made a mistake, Ms Monroe denied having vandalised anything, and intended to sue, that there was no attempt to justify what had been said. It is also suggested, in mitigation, that readers of these media would have realised that "the claimant considered that she could make £5,000 in damages because of the tweets" (sic). This last contention seems to me offensive in its formulation, implying that compensation would be some kind of gain for the claimant. Otherwise, I would not attach any great weight to this point. The majority of the media coverage was in publications of the left, and it is not likely there was a substantial overlap with the defendant's own readership. The coverage did not amount to an authoritative or comprehensive refutation of the original allegation. As Mr Bennett points out, there was a potentially harmful impact of this publication, as it brought the whole matter to the attention of a fresh audience.
    It seems he accepted that it was the publication of the spat by left wing media that brought the matter to a wider audience and that because they were left wing publications they would have supported Monroe and criticised Hopkins. Potentially harmful does not support a finding of actual harm, to my mind.
    What a shame Hopkins lost. She may be strongly opinionated but I am generally in agreement with her on the harm that uncontrolled immigration is causing this country and Western democracies.
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    sleepwello'nights reacted to spunko in Katie Hopkins - an expensive lesson   
    You don't know how lucky you are.
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    sleepwello'nights reacted to Chewing Grass in Qanon: high level intel, AI or LARP?!   
    Read that an he was aquitted in 2011, I ceased believing what we are told after the death of Mr Kelly and watching the interview with the paramedics on the lunchtime news to which the So-Called BBC have as usual lost the tapes of (answer to FOI request) even though they are by law required to retain them.
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    sleepwello'nights reacted to Bedrag Justesen in Must have smartphone   
    We have agencies that send coaches to bring workers here for fruit picking, food processing and various other minimum wage jobs.
    Often they are from Portugal but elsewhere too, Poland mainly, since the £1 has fallen against the Euro the workers are not so keen to come, and stay for shorter periods. Talk to them they will tell you it's not worth it so much now. Their Euro pay is little better than locals earning £s. It wasn't the case before. I've not heard anybody foreign blame BREXIT just the weaker £.    
    Whether other places are the same as here, maybe so, but when factories, steel plants, collieries, shut the people just stay, and do 'black economy' stuff or drive taxis, do delivery work etc. Often they stay because they have dependent relatives or other family ties.
    In the US it's very different, when factories shut or plants close the people move to another town, or another state. People just seem much more ready to move around. Always have, whether it's cotton pickers being paid 50c a day in the fields of Arkansas leaving for the car plants of Detroit to earn 50c an hour in the 1920s or young people moving to California to work in Google now. They go where the money is.
    In Wales we expect the government to bring the money to us. Thank you public sector.
    The disconnect is DWP, the frontline staff that haven't had their functions replaced by call centres or internet are a fag paper away from claiming UC themselves. The daily grind of ruining other people's lives by sanctioning them to hit their targets, genuinely causes mental health problems, alcohol & drug abuse, and failed relationships. It must be the worst job in the world, knowing you are causing hardship to often the most vulnerable in society, the sick, disabled, challenged, and deprived. All for crap money and the promise of a gold plated pension looking less golden by the day.
    Meanwhile HMRC deals with the other end of the scale, the 'rich' with clever accountants minimising their bills. Running rings around them, using the loopholes that are built-in to the system for the very purpose of being used by clever accountants. Probably almost as depressing.
    We can pay benefits to refugees and asylum seekers travelling thousands of miles to reach Wales that have never paid in a penny.   
    Ethel from Ponty has paid in for thirty years but she can fuck off if she won't travel two hours each way to work in Boots the chemist as a cleaner. Nothing for Ethel.
    Not in this game.       
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    sleepwello'nights reacted to One percent in Must have smartphone   
    I have a job tasting gin. The slight problem is that I don’t get paid for it and I have to buy the gin. 
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    sleepwello'nights reacted to Malthus in Must have smartphone   
    I was told there were no jobs in NI 10 years ago , 100,000 Eastern Europeans moved here and got jobs 
    The locals still say there are no jobs 
    Hard circle to square 
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    sleepwello'nights got a reaction from InLikeFlynn in Something happening at Salisbury hospital   
    That's a pretty hefty WPC. I wouldn't want to mess with her. Could she be training to be a nurse?
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    sleepwello'nights got a reaction from InLikeFlynn in Something happening at Salisbury hospital   
    That's a pretty hefty WPC. I wouldn't want to mess with her. Could she be training to be a nurse?
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    sleepwello'nights reacted to Southmartin in In Latest Humiliation For Brussles, Viktor Orban Wins Hungary Elections In Landslide Victory   
    True
    My absolute favourite rebuttal was to her colleague (Clare Moody MEP) in the summing up near the end. Where she said we needed to stay in the EU to "fight corporate tax avoidance"...
    I looked over to my partner for the event (A pretty good Tory MP who'd beaten me in 2015, but hey, we were on the same team now) and asked I could handle this one. I then asked the audience if anyone knew where the largest corporation tax avoidance scheme was located? One guy knew and shouted out "Luxembourg", I then asked in anyone knew the name of the man who originally set it up? Nope, It was Jean Claude Junker, the current President of the EC when he was PM of Luxembourg.. I then stated that "Claire's idea to tackle corporation tax avoidance was to put the man who created the largest corporation tax avoidance scheme in charge of it...." When the laughter died down a little I asked the room if anyone kept hens, as I had a fox that would be perfect to keep an eye on their safety..
    Honestly, you should have seen the daggers from her - she wouldn't stand next to me at the press photo at the end.
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    sleepwello'nights reacted to wherebee in Jacob Rees-Mogg   
    I didn't know he was a DOSBODDER..... 
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    sleepwello'nights got a reaction from InLikeFlynn in Something happening at Salisbury hospital   
    That's a pretty hefty WPC. I wouldn't want to mess with her. Could she be training to be a nurse?
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    sleepwello'nights reacted to Malthus in The make us laugh or fuck off thread   
    A SHORT LOVE STORY
    A man and a woman who had never met before, but who were both married to other people, found themselves assigned to the same sleeping cabin on a trans-continental train.
     Though initially embarrassed and uneasy over sharing a room, they were both very tired and fell asleep quickly, he in the upper berth and she in the lower.
    At 1:00 AM, the man leaned down and gently woke the woman saying,
    'Look, I'm sorry to bother you, but would you be willing to reach into the closet to get me a second blanket?  I'm awfully cold.'
     
    'I have a better idea’ she replied 'Just for tonight, let's pretend that we're married.'
    'Wow! That's a great idea!' he exclaimed.
    'Good,' she replied. 'Get your own fucking blanket.'
     
    After a moment of silence, he farted.
    The End.
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    sleepwello'nights got a reaction from InLikeFlynn in Something happening at Salisbury hospital   
    That's a pretty hefty WPC. I wouldn't want to mess with her. Could she be training to be a nurse?
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    sleepwello'nights got a reaction from M S E Refugee in John Lewis profits slump 99% in 'challenging times'   
    We're looking to downsize, perversely my wife wants to move to a bigger house . But hey. I've been looking online at less expensive areas yet whenever we see something that seems suitable it is taken off the listings, presumably SSTC.
    We saw a house locally last December that we made an offer on, our offer was rejected and it sold at the asking price. I'm still patiently waiting for prices to fall. If prices fall that's good for us, if we have to sell our house buying and selling in the same market will result in a lower price to change and save on transaction costs: stamp duty, agents fees. We don't have to sell, so we could wait it out but time moves on and we need to settle in for our dotage.
    Which sort of leads me into the contrarian thinking that is prevalent on here. Whenever I follow our groupthink it never pays off. Latest was Vodafone, I bought some at this years low, and as I predicted it went lower. I sold a rental property in 2014 to see prices rocket. I bought gold to see it plod along, silver fell dramatically. I'm minded that the predictions we see are along the lines of those in New York at the turn of the last century when the doomsayers were predicting the growth in horse drawn traffic leading to mountain of shit in the streets. Logical following the evidence but it never happened. There's a lot to be said for following mainstream investing . 
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    sleepwello'nights got a reaction from M S E Refugee in John Lewis profits slump 99% in 'challenging times'   
    We're looking to downsize, perversely my wife wants to move to a bigger house . But hey. I've been looking online at less expensive areas yet whenever we see something that seems suitable it is taken off the listings, presumably SSTC.
    We saw a house locally last December that we made an offer on, our offer was rejected and it sold at the asking price. I'm still patiently waiting for prices to fall. If prices fall that's good for us, if we have to sell our house buying and selling in the same market will result in a lower price to change and save on transaction costs: stamp duty, agents fees. We don't have to sell, so we could wait it out but time moves on and we need to settle in for our dotage.
    Which sort of leads me into the contrarian thinking that is prevalent on here. Whenever I follow our groupthink it never pays off. Latest was Vodafone, I bought some at this years low, and as I predicted it went lower. I sold a rental property in 2014 to see prices rocket. I bought gold to see it plod along, silver fell dramatically. I'm minded that the predictions we see are along the lines of those in New York at the turn of the last century when the doomsayers were predicting the growth in horse drawn traffic leading to mountain of shit in the streets. Logical following the evidence but it never happened. There's a lot to be said for following mainstream investing . 
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    sleepwello'nights got a reaction from InLikeFlynn in Something happening at Salisbury hospital   
    That's a pretty hefty WPC. I wouldn't want to mess with her. Could she be training to be a nurse?
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    sleepwello'nights reacted to wherebee in Deluded Old Scrapper Birds On Dating Sites   
    My wife is not like the others
     
    The others escaped.
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    sleepwello'nights reacted to null; in Deluded Old Scrapper Birds On Dating Sites   
    Not just deluded but also irresponsible and selfish. The risks of complications for mother and child really start to go up at that age.
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    sleepwello'nights reacted to Cunning Plan in In Latest Humiliation For Brussles, Viktor Orban Wins Hungary Elections In Landslide Victory   
    So Hungary is a threat to democracy. 
    Therefore the EU want to remove their democratic right to vote.
    I do love irony.