DownwardSpiral

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  1. Precisely. A good question to add to the list would therefore be in what way has the EU strengthened workers rights with respect to the points that you just mentioned and others? The reason why they never go in to the detail is because the neoliberalism of the last 40 years, with the EU as one of the chief cheerleaders, has led to the deterioration of such rights in many areas. Though I will concede that disability discrimination protections have been strengthened (the employee-friendly Discrimination Arising from Disability s.15 EqA as a prime example).
  2. One of the main problems for ardent remainers who have claimed that the UK is going to suffer Armageddon-like consequences by leaving is that if we do leave then they will require there to actually be Armageddon-like consequences to save what is left of their reputation. You can see they are willing it to be true. If we Leave and the consequences do not constitute the end of the world then they are going to look completely fucking stupid, even for a politician. The hot disaster porn topic at the moment is deteriorating “workers rights”. But it is NEVER specific. What aspect of workers rights will deteriorate? What is the standard of workers rights in the UK relative to other EU member states? What aspect of Section 98 - Unfair Dismissal are they going to change that is adverse to workers (bearing in mind that the Burchell Test, contentious though it is, has been in existence for many many decades and that the statute actually has very little to say on Unfair Dismissal)? What aspect of the Equality Act 2010 is going to change? Why is it impossible for the UK to strengthen its workers rights if it deems it fit to do so? Unions are already pathetically weak even whilst we have been a part of the EU - how will they be further eroded? I am genuinely interested in employment law and would love to know answers to these sorts of questions but you never get further than Lisa Nandy, Pidcock and other such Labour MPs screeching “BUT...WORKERS RIGHTS!!!”
  3. Wow. Horizonte back down at 3.8p at the moment. Opportunity?
  4. Without turning this into a circle jerk, would just like to say how enjoyable these threads have been. The level of discussion has been a lot higher than in most other places on the net and “in the real world”. Had a brief look over at TOS and their Brexit thread and fuck me, no analysis whatsoever. Cheers
  5. I haven’t got of clue of course (it goes without saying but worth saying all the same) but I wonder if this is where the circus surrounding prerogative powers interacts with coercion and the validity of Article 51 of the Vienna Convention. In March, Treason May extended by prerogative. If it is a prerogative power then Parliament has no authority to compel the Prime Minister to ask for an extension. If they are attempting to compel him to do so then either: a) extensions are not a prerogative power, in which case Treason May’s extension is invalid and we in effect left on March 31st b) extensions are a prerogative power, in which case Parliament mandating that the PM must do something which he has stated he does not want to do could be argued to be coercion. Article 51 of the VCLT could potentially be applied such that any extension that arises has no legal effect. Going to be another week of constitutional crisis! That fucking Fixed Term Parliament Act is utterly utterly dreadful.
  6. It has probably been said on here many times but Hilary is an embarrassment to his father. Whatever Tony’s motives and ultimate allegiance, he knew and understood the working class whereas Hilary hasn’t got the foggiest. He is champagne wealthy middle class socialist through and through. Real shame that he has decided that he wants to be in the history books as one of the key players resisting the outcome of the biggest vote in UK history.
  7. I would prefer No Deal but would begrudgingly accept the Boris Deal at this point rather than endless Remain. This could very well be the situation that they wanted long term Brexit supporters like myself and most of us here to get to, or it may yet still be a play in order to legitimise a No Deal. Time is running out and electorally the Conservatives cannot let this go beyond October 31st. With all the economic problems that are about to culminate in the next financial crash, there will be ample opportunity to bin parts of the Deal that are problematic. Or maybe I am being too idealistic.
  8. Agreed, there are hotspots where the house prices are as high as anywhere else. As much as I enjoy visiting I don’t think I could live there for a long time - I would find it completely suffocating. I was born in Neath which has similarities but has fundamental differences. I would recommend Neath to the OP if he fancied moving deeper into Wales - perfect for the Brecon Beacons, Gower, Cardiff, Swansea and Pembrokeshire (and is the right side of the steelworks ). It is starting to get a bit expensive though, which is exactly what happened in 2006-2007.
  9. A lot of the best schools in the valleys are the Welsh schools, so you do hear a fair bit of Welsh spoken there. It is mostly English though of course.
  10. The Valleys do expect you to fit in and that is because they seek to protect their culture. It is not a culture that satisfies everybody’s taste but it is THEIR culture. I have spent a lot of time in the valleys over the years, mainly through rugby, and the sense of community they have there is just not seen in a large portion of the UK. I sense the UK through current politics is making a move back to protecting its regional cultures. In terms of looking for a place to live in the Valleys, the railway lines (substandard though they are) have pretty much dictated which villages have been the winners and which the losers. Abertillery for example is not close to a railway station and has suffered some desperate decline. That said, it has some of the cheapest house prices I have seen.
  11. There are some nice quiet places around Pontypridd. The town itself has a fair bit there but is grim. Nearby Trehafod is relatively nice (one stop up the Rhondda Valley railway line from Ponty) and has plenty of nice countryside and places to go rambling without there being many people around. Cheap house prices as well.
  12. From what I can piece together from all over the place: [1] Boris Johnson has not signed the copy of the Surrender Bill letter and has sent that unsigned copy to the EU. [2] Under EU law, the UK is a state and the state’s representative is the Prime Minister. [3] The Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties (VCLT) defines a treaty as “an international agreement concluded between states in written form and governed by international law”. [4] The UK is a signatory of the VCLT and is therefore bound by it. [5] Article 51 of the VCLT relates to Coercion of a Representative of a State and says: “The expression of a state’s consent to be bound by a Treaty which has been procured by the coercion of its representative through acts or threats directed against him shall be without any legal effect”. [6] Boris as the Representative of a State that is a VCLT signatory has made it abundantly clear that it was not his will to request an extension - in fact he has made a massive show of it “would rather be dead in a ditch” etc. [7] Boris has also made it clear in another letter that he has sent to the EU along with the Surrender Bill letter that he does not wish to have an extension. [8] Presumably the fact that the letter has not been signed makes the request outlined in the letter of no effect. [9] Yet another Scottish Court of Session case is now likely to be filed against Boris by Maugham, Cherry et al. They have already made it clear that they wish to bring contempt of court proceedings against the PM should he attempt to circumvent the Surrender Bill. [10] If the court forces the PM’s hand to sign the letter then presumably Boris will claim that he was forced to sign the document against his will which is in contravention of Article 51 of the VCLT. [11] There seems to be some points of contention, namely, a) does this constitute a Treaty or Treaty change?, b) does it matter that the EU is not a signatory of the VCLT? and c) do the actions in the courts and in Parliament constitute coercion? [12] Assuming the VCLT argument holds then the pressure is on the Remainer contingent in Parliament to vote for the Boris Deal otherwise it will be No Deal by default on October 31st. [13] Assuming the VCLT argument holds then the pressure will be on the EU to not allow an extension as they will lose the favourable elements of the deal (cash payment etc) and get nothing under a default no deal. [14] If the deal is agreed by Parliament all of the rest of the circus becomes irrelevant and we exit the EU. [15] If the VCLT argument doesn’t hold and the Boris Deal doesn’t pass through Parliament...God fucking knows.
  13. Steve Baker, who I wish was my MP, put it in a way that I think sums it up nicely; namely, that the Remain contingent in Parliament have moved the goalposts yet again. The Benn Act said that Boris must seek an extension if he couldn’t get a deal with the EU by the 19th October. Boris has done that and so the Remain contingent voted for the Letwin Amendment which basically said that whether or not Boris obtained a deal has become irrelevant and he must send the letter anyway. That is basically what has happened today. This evening will see this play out...we will find out what Boris has up his sleeve on this matter, if anything.
  14. I am not sure how revocation happens without the parties responsible - mainly Labour - being electorally slaughtered . Though I am fascinated to see what happens this evening; Boris seems adamant that the law does not compel him to request an extension. Let’s see how it plays out.
  15. Looks as though it is about to hit 4p (and I may add a bit more to my holding at that point) but I think this share is going to do well enough that 4p and 4.5 matters not!