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    Worcester child acid attack in court

    My Slovak mate told me that this is how the Roma live in Slovakia. Those flats you see - given to them free (everyone got a free house back in communist times). He says they're scum and Hitler knew how to deal with them.
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    Boiler Insurance - con?

    Top tip - a major cause of draughts is bloody idiots who install radiators anywhere other than underneath a window. Have one on the back wall and it'll suck cold air from the window straight along the floor at 100 mph giving your toes frostbite.
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    Blow Up Dolls

    Are you familiar with the concept of marriage? The sex stops soon enough but the dislike is life-long.
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    Brexit Betrayal thread

    I think Project Fear is right on this one. I've cut my cross-channel trade by virtually 100%. If it's made in the EU I don't buy it.
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    Freelander of Peace

    Apparently the lady was doing 50mph and first saw the freeloader start to pull out 150 yards away but she thought he would stop. Err...perhaps the old coot hadn't seen you you pillock. 50mph is ~ 25 yards per second, so you had 6 seconds warning that a knob was pulling out in front of you. A touch of the brake and wow! you'd have even longer. Silly bint just drove into him because she had right of way. Lock her up!
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    Draft Withdrawal Agreement

    Of course what defines a worker? From 2004/38/EC: 3. For the purposes of paragraph 1(a), a Union citizen who is no longer a worker or self-employed person shall retain the status of worker or self-employed person in the following circumstances: (a) he/she is temporarily unable to work as the result of an illness or accident; (b) he/she is in duly recorded involuntary unemployment after having been employed for more than one year and has registered as a job-seeker with the relevant employment office; (c) he/she is in duly recorded involuntary unemployment after completing a fixed-term employment contract of less than a year or after having become involuntarily unemployed during the first twelve months and has registered as a job-seeker with the relevant employment office. In this case, the status of worker shall be retained for no less than six months; (d) he/she embarks on vocational training. Unless he/she is involuntarily unemployed, the retention of the status of worker shall require the training to be related to the previous employment. So basically everyone is a worker. Phew! They nearly had me believing they were going to do anything about EUers claiming benefits. Edit: I think the worker bit then entitles them to student grants and loans and possibly doesn't apply to the first part of 21 (2) - so no benefits except for student grants and loans to workers. I hope.
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    Draft Withdrawal Agreement

    Thought I'd start a thread examining the WA in detail. I'll start with Article 21. 2004/38/EC CHAPTER III Right of residence Article 6 Right of residence for up to three months 1. Union citizens shall have the right of residence on the territory of another Member State for a period of up to three months without any conditions or any formalities other than the requirement to hold a valid identity card or passport. 2. The provisions of paragraph 1 shall also apply to family members in possession of a valid passport who are not nationals of a Member State, accompanying or joining the Union citizen. Article 14 Retention of the right of residence 1. Union citizens and their family members shall have the right of residence provided for in Article 6, as long as they do not become an unreasonable burden on the social assistance system of the host Member State. 2. Union citizens and their family members shall have the right of residence provided for in Articles 7, 12 and 13 as long as they meet the conditions set out therein. In specific cases where there is a reasonable doubt as to whether a Union citizen or his/her family members satisfies the conditions set out in Articles 7, 12 and 13, Member States may verify if these conditions are fulfilled. This verification shall not be carried out systematically. 3. An expulsion measure shall not be the automatic consequence of a Union citizen's or his or her family member's recourse to the social assistance system of the host Member State. 4. By way of derogation from paragraphs 1 and 2 and without prejudice to the provisions of Chapter VI, an expulsion measure may in no case be adopted against Union citizens or their family members if: (a) the Union citizens are workers or self-employed persons, or (b) the Union citizens entered the territory of the host Member State in order to seek employment. In this case, the Union citizens and their family members may not be expelled for as long as the Union citizens can provide evidence that they are continuing to seek employment and that they have a genuine chance of being engaged. If I am reading this correctly, Article 21 (2) Thus states that EU/EEA nationals will not be entitled to benefits until they acquire the right of permanent residence. Potentially then if the WA goes ahead then on 30th March 2019 we can stop paying any benefits to all EU/EEA nationals who have not already acquired permanent residence. This would seem to me to be a good thing. Whether we actually do it is another.
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    Brexit Betrayal thread

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/royal-navy-prepares-for-future-uk-fishery-patrols
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    Brexit Betrayal thread

    "The Beginnings" by Kipling sums the feeling up better than anything I could ever say.
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    Windsor Davies

    Oh dear! What a pity. Never mind. Let's hope it's not ain't half hot where he's gone. RIP. A great actor.
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    Brexit Betrayal thread

    Just listened to the O'Brien - JRM interview (if you could call it that). What a colossal cunt O'Brien is. Extremely rude and factually incorrect on virtually everything he said. JRM utterly destroyed him and put him straight on every single point. O'Brien seemed to claim David Trimble was in the DUP when in fact he was UUP. Absolutely clueless twat. Then he goes on to claim that a country can't use it's WTO schedules unless literally every other nation in the world agrees with them. He also seems to be labouring under the misapprehension that every single product produced anywhere in the world must be destructively tested at a border before being allowed to enter a country. Twat. Utter cunt.
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    Brexit Betrayal thread

    I hope this is the case. What I do know for sure is that if May had come straight out with "It's no deal!" two years ago then that would have precipitated a revolt of the Remainer-dominated Parliament and I doubt we'd have got this close to 29th March with the necessary legislation passed and many no-deal preparations done and dusted.
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    Brexit Betrayal thread

    I've said it before and I'll say it again - to get the UK out of the EU I will vote for the re-animated corpse of Adolf Hitler if that is the only way to get it done.
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    Brexit Betrayal thread

    Indeed. Each EU27 country is having to put in place contingency measures that totally slay the EU threats of port delays, no flights, not being able to drive in the EU etc. The more people hear of these the more they'll see that leaving on WTO terms (otherwise known as normal terms) is absolutely fine and nothing at all to worry about.
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    Brexit Betrayal thread

    I always said that on the 24th June 2016 we should have repealed the 1972 Act and left with immediate effect. This would have pulled the rug from underneath the EU's feet giving them no time to plan but rather to have to immediately implement WTO and associated micro-arrangements to ensure trade etc continued without disruption. It would have totally de-ganged them and introduced them to a dose of reality. Once the rest of the EU27 saw that you could have the good without all the bad, the EU would be finished. Job done.