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    the gardener reacted to spunko in Just everyone is on bennies darhlin' don'tcha know   
    The solution to this is the same one needed for most problems today in that it needs to be passed to the little people to sort it out with a combined effort, nothing else will work;- you've got to put your body upon the wheels and the levers and force the system to collapse, to paraphrase Mario Savio.
    Sick of bennie cheats? Become one, overload the system.
    Tired of police arresting Twitter users for misgendering and not bothering with real crime? Invent 100 hate-crimes each, overload the system.
    Tired of Brexit and erosion of democracy? Bring the country to a complete fucking standstill. Etc
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    the gardener reacted to McKay in Brexit Betrayal thread - Part 2   
    You're right there. I think they have unfortunately left the people of this country who were once called the working class no other option but violence. 
    I didn't vote for Brexit, I try to avoid involvement in politics, I find it poisonous, but there comes a point where it is morally necessary to make a stand. There is no moral justification I can make for doing anything else but to stand here with the working man. For the last 30 years the distortions, lies and corrupt tactics from the middle class to protect their positions have been disgusting in the extreme and have been laid bare during the Brexit issue. 
    Over the last 40 years the working class of this country have been shattered. They have seen the industries which gave them dignity, worth and value in society for generations taken from them and witnessed their sons and daughters forced into the humiliation of service work and benefits. They have seen their age old communities and working class culture pushed to the side by economic opportunists.They have had their political voice taken from them by Blairs middle class posturing and Corbyns identity politics charlatanism.We have been vilified as racists by lying media, mocked, trivialised by self serving corrupt politicians and belittled by every bastard who takes on the corrupt cause of the modern left.
    I think the men who lost their dignity, their communities, their class, their voice and their country saw a chance in Brexit to at least attempt to bring about a change. They played by the rules but the middle class and the middle class politicians were too arrogant and corrupt to realise that there is only so may times you can kick a dog before it takes a bite at you. I cant see any other outcome from this other than violent retribution.
    Be assured the arrogant at heart will not go unpunished.
     
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    the gardener reacted to XswampyX in Brexit Betrayal thread - Part 2   
    And if anybody in the house complains they are shouted down as  racist  anti EU.
    Also remember this isn't the Brexit agreement. This is only the position that we agree to be placed in, in order to negotiate the actual Brexit agreement! WTF!
    It's a fucking disgrace! 
     
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    the gardener reacted to ashestoashes in Brexit Betrayal thread - Part 2   
    haven't seen this posted, only 3 mins shows why may's deal is so bad and we should be really worried if it passes
     
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    the gardener reacted to Malthus in Brexit Betrayal thread - Part 2   
    The EU have again proven what a bunch of vindictive cunts they are and punished us for having the gall to leave their wonderful club 
    They could say that the backstop has a 2 year notice period the same as article 50 and we will be offered Canada plus Brexit day + 1
    The fact that they haven’t proves to me they are our enemies and should be treated as such 
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    the gardener reacted to One percent in Brexit Betrayal thread - Part 2   
    Ffs. He is overreaching here. 
    https://www.parliament.uk/business/commons/the-speaker/the-role-of-the-speaker/role-of-the-speaker/
    Speakers must be politically impartial.
     
    we are witnessing the end of the pretence of democracy. And no one is challenging this on a constitutional level. 
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    the gardener reacted to unregistered_guest in Macron - how long before wheels fall off   
    Well, no-one actually knows, because it's never been attempted
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    the gardener reacted to Alonso Quijano in Macron - how long before wheels fall off   
    The whole world seems a tinderbox. There is no way this genie can be put back in the box, now matter how this tainted elite try.
    Greed and corrupted power reaching its zenith. Now overreaching and thrashing around.
    Police and military are at the end of the day ordinary people: father's, husband's, sons...
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    the gardener reacted to Shaneyson in Macron - how long before wheels fall off   
    It would be more accurate if Macron was to say  that the army were going to be deployed in their own uniforms next Saturday. 
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    the gardener reacted to Byron in Brexit Betrayal thread - Part 2   
    I am so angry.
    I have supported May throughout, always expecting her to deliver a no deal.
    Obviously she is a remainer and this is treason.
    Asking for a friend, how much do pitchforks cost?
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    the gardener reacted to whocares in Brexit Betrayal thread - Part 2   
    EXACTLY THIS! 
    They usually blather about EU benefits (for all? ha!) being ... the Erasmus uni scheme,  jobs abroad for their kids, their own career options, their retirement home dream in Spain or their elderly parents in France/Cyprus who will no longer have free healthcare abroad via the NHS etc. (Can't see how selfish and privileged they sound.)
    NICs go towards state pension.  And keep you qualified for certain benefits if you are not in work/registered as jobseeking or not able to work or working outside of the UK.   NICs don't guarantee all the healthcare you could ever wish for, anywhere, anytime. 
    And while I am on the subject of the NHS, I need to rant  ...
    Some ppl don't seem to understand that the NHS has to be shared out/rationed between all the current participants - it's a limited resource. And it's not like you have already paid up front for each hospital visit out of your own pocket.  It's a safety net/insurance re getting ill or needing urgent medical help. Not your own private, fully equipped medical team/pharmacy. Grr. 
    I think what's 'spoiling' the NHS now is that too many expensive treatments have been discovered so everyone feels entitled to be offered them, too many ppl are abusing the system (cos they are idiots) and too many incoming ppl (whose parents haven't paid) are taking out before putting in. (As the previous generations mostly paid in but didn't get as much out?)
    Rant over!
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    the gardener reacted to Bus Stop Boxer in Brexit Betrayal thread - Part 2   
    My sincere hope is that at least Batten and Farage will agree to co-operate. Any vote splitting will be hard to stomach.
    It is also the duty of brexit voting public to help campaign to dig these fuckers out of their holes.
    Starting in Hastings and Rye, Broxtowe, Totnes Beaconsfield, and Pontefract.
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    the gardener reacted to whitevanman in Brexit Betrayal thread - Part 2   
    Indeed, these people are scary. It's so full of bile for those who disagree with them. It's all 'racist', 'bigot', 'little Englander', 'gammon', 'they old, they've all died anyway', 'criminal', 'uneducated', 'poor', 'they didn't vote for this anyway', 'credulous' blablabla. There's a complete absence of humility in their writing. 
    I've been listening to The Gulag Archipelago on YouTube and they remind me of the 'true believers' who were willing to carry out any sort of vile act in order to crush those who opposed them.
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    the gardener reacted to Bus Stop Boxer in Brexit Betrayal thread - Part 2   
    Can the ERG resign the tory whip and crash the government? Force an election?
    Cos if Parliament is left to it, they will kill brexit dead.
     
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    the gardener reacted to The Masked Tulip in Brexit Betrayal thread - Part 2   
    Our new ruler.
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    the gardener reacted to gilf in Brexit Betrayal thread - Part 2   
    Pretty much sums up remainers, any time they are challenged it boils down directly to something which directly impacts them on a minor level, rather than taking account of bigger picture of membership of the EU.
     
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    the gardener reacted to kibuc in Brexit Betrayal thread - Part 2   
    I was travelling yesterday so went to bed fully convinced there would be a no-deal on the 29th. The news I woke up to this morning took me completely by surprise. I did not expect such a level of treachery. 
    Those people truly are something else. 
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    the gardener got a reaction from The XYY Man in March To Leave Brexit thread   
    This morning I asked a Remainer why they voted remain. They said "because I want the children to be able to have education", "I want them to be able to learn French".
    I'm not making this up. I wish I was. Unbelievable, crass stupidity. These people should not be allowed to vote.
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    the gardener got a reaction from BadAlchemy in Brexit Betrayal thread - Part 2   
    I'm going to parliament square on the 29th.
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    the gardener got a reaction from whocares in Brexit Betrayal thread - Part 2   
    I'm going to parliament square on the 29th.
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    the gardener got a reaction from Carl Fimble in March To Leave Brexit thread   
    This morning I asked a Remainer why they voted remain. They said "because I want the children to be able to have education", "I want them to be able to learn French".
    I'm not making this up. I wish I was. Unbelievable, crass stupidity. These people should not be allowed to vote.
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    the gardener got a reaction from Carl Fimble in March To Leave Brexit thread   
    It was not a silly question, it was straightforward and unambiguous.