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    the gardener reacted to gibbon in Bye bye Treason May?   
    I could only watch 5 mins of her. She is truly awful. There's no way it's human.
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    the gardener reacted to Hopeful in Bye bye Treason May?   
    Not yet
    Give a woman enough rope
    Minute by minute she is hanging herself with every speech or media interview she gives and so much so that neither side believes her anymore.
    But, if, against all common sense, she remains then we will know that we are already a vassal state.
     
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    the gardener reacted to Bkkandrew in Bye bye Treason May?   
    Crossing threads with my “Goading the Graun” effort, I note that most Guardian readers believe in totalitarianism:
     

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    the gardener reacted to Hopeful in Bye bye Treason May?   
    Given the modern embracing of Islam, isn't it sufficient just to say
    I leave you, I leave you, I leave you
    ?
     
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    the gardener reacted to Banned in Bye bye Treason May?   
    Ive just had to switch off morning TV after hearing some remianer cunt on BBC, just after i got pro remain propaganda on Sky a channel i switched to as Lord Heseltine was on ITV.
    Apparently getting a deal  from the EU was impossible in the first place so we need another referendum ... quite why we need another referendum if getting a leave deal off the EU is impossible is something i struggle to comprehend.
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    the gardener reacted to Alex in Bye bye Treason May?   
    You might want to suggest that she finds another line of work. Stay there too long and it corrodes your faith in humanity, yet it perversely becomes increasingly hard to leave. Less than a year did it for me, in different departments on different projects. Too many empire-building scum who loathe the people they supposedly serve and would stab each other in the back for the most trivial of perceived advantages.
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    the gardener reacted to One percent in Bye bye Treason May?   
    Convinced now that this is deliberate. Either it’s all just theatre or it’s to force another vote, one they intend to win, or both. 
    No one, given the amount of advisers and public servants there are in the background, no one could be this incompetent  
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    the gardener reacted to One percent in Bye bye Treason May?   
    The whole lot of them appeared to take the queens silver around a year or so ago. Before that, the discussions were pretty balanced and touched on issues that other MSM steered clear of. 
    Overnight that changed. It’s was that more than anything that convinced me that the MSM was just all fake news. 
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    the gardener reacted to Libspero in Bye bye Treason May?   
    This idea we have another referendum is entirely disingenuous on the part of anyone proposing the idea.
    We have left.  We invoked article 50 and the wheels are in motion for our departure. 
    People think that just because junker weeps a few crocodile tears we would be welcomed back with open arms..  I think they’d be in for a nasty surprise from their European idols when they read the derisory terms of our reentry.
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    the gardener reacted to Admiral Pepe in Bye bye Treason May?   
    @Bedrag Justesen Quality Post!!!

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    the gardener reacted to Bedrag Justesen in Bye bye Treason May?   
    No deal and stay.
    The Conservative election campaign only failed to lose, narrowly, because the British voter is mostly terrified of Wilfrid Brambell in Number 10.
    The plan was to let the Labour Party fail to successfully negotiate BREXIT. 
    When that didn't work out the next plan was to put together a draft BREXIT agreement, with the tacit agreement of Merkel and the rest of her EU. The agreement had to be universally unacceptable to all sides, Conservative, Labour, SNP, DUP, and all the insignificant little parties. The tactic depended on Parliament having a 'meaningful' final say on the deal. This required Gina Miller successfully winning her legal action.
    The Parliamentarians would not be able to vote for the agreement, whether they were REMAIN or LEAVE. Sufficient numbers would resign from cabinet positions to destabilise the government. The DUP would withdraw confidence and supply. The Labour Party would become impossibly split. Sir Keir Starmer will defuse Brambell by pushing for another Peoples Vote. The great and the good will come out to strongly support calling BREXIT off completely. The ERG will organise their putsch.
    May will survive her no-confidence vote and be PM for another twelve months or be gone.
    Either way BREXIT is DEAD.    
     
    Everything is theatre.
    When you have more than two years of the Official State Propaganda Machine ( BBC. Newspapers. Radio and online), and Unofficial State Propaganda Machine (ITV, C4, C5 and Sky) heavily pushing Project Fear you know their objective is to frighten voters they will lose their jobs and be worse off unless they REMAIN in the EU.
    The EU could negotiate a deal similar to Japan. They won't, because the UK must not only be worse off outside the EU, it must be seen to be worse off outside the EU.
    Except.....
    The great unwashed of today are different to how we were in 2016.
    We have seen the God Emperor President Trump calling out Fake News. The MSM no longer holds the power it once had. We are more woke. C4 News Krishnan Guru Murthy gave a perfect example when he asked Tony Blair whether his intervention has harmed the REMAIN cause, because whatever Blair thinks, people will do the opposite. The Peoples Vote campaign has the same problem, most of those pushing for another referendum are on our shitlist. Whatever they say we believe the opposite to be true.  Every time Alastair Campbell shows up to talk us into a Peoples Vote his interviewer will ask him about taking us into Iraq. Completely discredited.
    Chuka Umunna, we see straight through him. Same with all the other REMAIN NPC pretending they care about democracy, the will of the people must be paramount. How many times have we seen politicians with previously ZERO interest in Northern Ireland politics or history suddenly argue the 'hard border' issue is insoluble because the people of Ireland are so important. Bollocks. The NI border is only so difficult because the EU make it so.
     
    So. Look. Listen. Let's be perfectly clear.
    'THEY' think they can completely cancel BREXIT. Either they replace May, or keep May. Hold another referendum or don't. 'THEY' are in control.
    Are they really ? Maybe BREXIT is like trying to put toothpaste back in the tube.
    No deal and exit or no deal and stay ?
    Things will never be the same either way.
     
       
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    the gardener reacted to ILikeCake in Bye bye Treason May?   
    "Listen. Understand. That MAYBOT 5000 is out there. It can't be reasoned with, it can't be bargained with...it doesn't feel pity of remorse or fear...and it absolutely will not stop.Ever."
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    the gardener reacted to One percent in Bye bye Treason May?   
    She has been told by her masters to get this through whatever it costs 
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    the gardener reacted to Errol in Bye bye Treason May?   
    They should just ring up the EU and say 'Right, we've left now. Bye'.
    This should have been done the day after the referendum.
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    the gardener reacted to twocents in Bye bye Treason May?   
    She shows all the signs of having converted and is looking forward to Britain being the Caliphate.
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    the gardener reacted to Long time lurking in Bye bye Treason May?   
    The customs union was not mentioned because we would need the EU to agree we could leave it 
    Whilst in it we could not do any trade deals without imposing the same tariffs as the EU do concerning that country so in effect we could NEVER be better off than the EU we could not decide our own tax incentives ....basically we would still be in the EU as far as trade is concerned until they deiced we can leave the customs union   
    The list goes on and on and on 
    One for starters ,
    Still sounding good ?
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    the gardener reacted to WorkingPoor in Bye bye Treason May?   
    yes, they are going for an 8 year (indefinate) can kicking  
    tell the public the nothing will happen until we negotiate a canada style trade deal which will take years so it all gets kicked into the long grass for 8 years until its all forgotten about and any mass protest risk is diffused. 
    Those cabinet ministers were likely told "this is in the national interest" ie "national security" 
    leave or remain = 50% population mass protest + some counter protests 
    or fudge it so more time is bought and there is some placating of both leave & remain 
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    the gardener reacted to WorkingPoor in Bye bye Treason May?   
    All its about is diffusing social division over leave / remain 
    and preventing mass sustained countywide peaceful protests by millions of people. 
    (its not policeable) 
    if anyone thinks millions of people wont come onto the streets and disable a capital city / country take a look at the millions who turned out in paris after the Bataclan attack. 
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    the gardener reacted to sleepwello'nights in Bye bye Treason May?   
    I didn't vote for her last time. She did initially rise in my estimation when she mad e the Brexiteers responsible for negotiating our exit. It didn't last long when you could see her sabotaging them.
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    the gardener reacted to null; in Bye bye Treason May?   
    I hate it when I run out of reps. A thumbs up from me. It's not like the pound has dropped by 50% or we have hyper inflation.
    I think most people in their day to day lives would not notice at all.
    How many people have lived through a recession and said 'what recession?'
    For many, they only notice when it impacts on them personally.
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    the gardener reacted to XswampyX in Bye bye Treason May?   
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    the gardener reacted to One percent in Bye bye Treason May?   
    FIFY 
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    the gardener reacted to The Masked Tulip in Bye bye Treason May?   
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    the gardener reacted to Long time lurking in Bye bye Treason May?   
    This sums up the mood perfectly 
     
     
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    the gardener reacted to This Time in Bye bye Treason May?   
    Every time her voice shakes I get my hopes up that she's about to drop dead in front of us.