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    the gardener reacted to Alonso Quijano in Over the Border (Brexit thread)   
    She is a complete phoney.
    Something odd about a sell-out plan she worked out with Merkel before her cabinet got to see it having such difficulties amongst EU leaders.
    It is probably theatre. With May, as we've seen before, you can't believe a word.
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    the gardener reacted to ste in Over the Border (Brexit thread)   
    It’s quite some feat for May to try and make every one happy yet ending up making everyone despise her. 
    Im no fan of hers but her speech today was pretty good I thought if you took it at face value, however we’ve been here before and have found her strong words to be meaningless.
    Everyone knows this, the words she used were in political circles very strong but will still be be met with a shrug of the shoulders by those they were directed at and disbelieved by both sides of the Brexit debate. 
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    the gardener got a reaction from Byron in Treason May, does it again   
    I don't see any need for queues at all. All that is needed is a booking and queue-management system. If post-Brexit Dover knows it can handle only 1000 lorries per hour instead of 2000 then here's an idea - don't sell 2000 tickets for that hour. Why not sell, say, 1000?
    No ticket? Don't come since you won't get on the boat. Perhaps go to another port.
    There, I've solved the entire non-problem in two minutes.
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    the gardener got a reaction from Byron in Treason May, does it again   
    I don't see any need for queues at all. All that is needed is a booking and queue-management system. If post-Brexit Dover knows it can handle only 1000 lorries per hour instead of 2000 then here's an idea - don't sell 2000 tickets for that hour. Why not sell, say, 1000?
    No ticket? Don't come since you won't get on the boat. Perhaps go to another port.
    There, I've solved the entire non-problem in two minutes.
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    the gardener reacted to One percent in UKIP release interim manifesto   
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45593648
    The manifesto covers a wide range of policy areas, from the NHS and transport to fisheries and small businesses, with policies including: 
    A limited points-based immigration system NHS health cards for British citizens to prevent 'health tourism' & free parking at hospitals  An extra £2bn a year for adult social care & £500m a year for mental health  Abolition of stamp duty and inheritance tax Introduction of new grammar schools  Scrapping the overseas aid budget  Scrapping guidelines on 'subjective' hate crimes Scrapping the climate change act, stopping subsidies for wind turbines and solar voltaic arrays and seeking to rejuvenate the UK's coal industry Scrapping the So-Called BBC licence fee in favour of voluntary subscription Repealing hate speech guidelines, the Equality Act 2010 & shutting down the Equalities and Human Rights Commission
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    the gardener reacted to Austin Allegro in Over the Border (Brexit thread)   
    Indeed. Mr Cameron's attempts at negotiating some sort of reform of our position with the EU achieved absolutely sweet FA and were just waved away by the apparatchiks of the EU who basically just slammed their equivalent of the post office counter window shut. From that moment on it was clear (to me, anyway) that the EU is not interested in negotiation or deals, it just wants its own way. Instead Mrs May seemed to think she could hammer out some sort of compromise. She's now trying the 'you're being very disrespectful to the British people' tactic but it's not working because a. the EU doesn't care and b. The Leavers don't believe her as she's not exactly showed much respect to the British people herself by her appeasing stance. 
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    the gardener reacted to man o' the year in Over the Border (Brexit thread)   
    May stamps her foot! Why hasn't this happened before? She really need to show leadership from day one. She has been weak and tentative. As a result we must "suffer", ( Merkel quote from Tuesday). If we are to be "friends" how come we must be punished and offered worse deals than either Norway or Canada.
    I think it will make little difference either way. We have been renegotiating our position ever since we joined and leave or not that situation will remain. What will make a difference is whether we leave being seen as strong or weak, eg with or without our 40 billion.
    The other thing that really annoys me is that Remainers continue to make comparisons with how things were. They are not the same now nor would they ever have been so the comparison needs to be with how things would become if we had remained - United States of Europe, open borders, TTIP and so on. If we go back now with our tail between our legs we lose the £ too as far as I understand it.
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    the gardener reacted to Bedrag Justesen in Over the Border (Brexit thread)   
    Terse. 
    May: " Unacceptable for EU to divide UK in two. "
    She is prepared to walk away.
    In the event of no deal EU citizen rights will be protected, they are wanted and welcome to stay.
     
    Justine Greening now strongly pushing for the British people to decide by having another vote.
    Fuck off Justine, away and boil your head.
     
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    the gardener reacted to Anglepoise in Over the Border (Brexit thread)   
    Oh, serious face!
    Tough talking from May - must be preparing to capitulate
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    the gardener reacted to Popuplights in Over the Border (Brexit thread)   
    There was a remainder MP on R4 just now. Reckons the penny is finally dropping with remainders that there is no deal to be had from the EU, and that the Salzburg summit revealed it.
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    the gardener reacted to TheBlueCat in Uk 9th largest manufacturer in world   
    The first couple of years of the 90s were rough. We were coming out of the back end of the late 80s crash and, even though house prices had come back down, interest rates were high, companies were going bust left right and centre and things were miserable economically speaking . The situation was made way worse by us joining the ERM in 1990, after which interest rates had to be jacked up way above where they should have been to defend the value of the pound (and keep it in the allowed range vs the Deutschmark). In 1992 however, George Soros did us a massive service - and shot himself in the foot, albeit with a 2 billion pound profit bullet - and forced us out. Interest rates dropped immediately and it was as is if sun had come out from behind the clouds for the first time in 20 years. I kid you not, as a small business owner at the time, the economic situation changed overnight from no-one wanting to do business to all the clients I had stacked up sitting on their thumbs suddenly wanting to sign deals and get moving. The rest of the 90s were a blast and I still can't for the life of me understand why it's still called "Black" Wednesday. It should be called "Fucking Awesome, Common Sense Wins, Sod You EU" day. It's probably also why Gordon Brown refused to let Blair take us into the Euro - imagine where we'd be today if that hadn't happened!
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    the gardener reacted to PatronizingGit in Uk 9th largest manufacturer in world   
    Leyland, crap as they were, we no worse than the French & Italian offerings of the time. 
    Only they remain because the government maintained interest in them, and French/Italian consumers are more 'nationalistic' 
    Im not sure Thatcher really understood the beast she unleashed when de-regulating the city. As 'the daughter of a shopkeeper' and a libertarian/Powellite, economically, i think her economic worldview was no more developed than lower taxes and regulations = greater growth. I highly doubt she understood why the financial sector and banking are 'different' 
    Similar to her changing views on Europe/EU, I think she was perhaps somewhat naive in some areas. 
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    the gardener reacted to sarahbell in Uk 9th largest manufacturer in world   
    Despite the decline since the 1970s, when manufacturing contributed 25% of UK GDP, the UK is currently the eighth largest manufacturing nation in the world.

    https://www.themanufacturer.com/uk-manufacturing-statistics/
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    the gardener reacted to sarahbell in Uk 9th largest manufacturer in world   
    BBC news story today. 
     
    UK Manufacturing Statistics
    Manufacturing contributes £6.7 trillion to the global economy. Contrary to widespread perceptions, UK manufacturing is thriving, with the UK currently the world’s eighth largest industrial nation. If current growth trends continue, the UK will break into the top five by 2021. In the UK, manufacturing makes up 11% of GVA, 44% of total UK exports, 70% of business R&D, and directly employs 2.6 million people.
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    the gardener reacted to Frank Hovis in Croydon cat killer   
    I say chaps I have this absolutely whizzo plan.  instead of actually investigating crimes lets just say that foxes did them then we can all go home early.

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    the gardener reacted to spygirl in Croydon cat killer   
    Police have fitted up a fox.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-45588088
    Free the Croydon One:

     
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    the gardener reacted to XswampyX in Question Time   
    The remoners are as thick as shit.
    "The people didn't understand what they were voting for. Except me, and all the remoaners, because we are so clever. It's just the thick bastard brexiteers that didn't understand it and voted the wrong way!"
    "Help us, to help the mentally challenged."

     
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    the gardener reacted to Alonso Quijano in Question Time   
    Usual Remain loaded panel and audience.
    Operation BBC is to soften us up for a second referendum splitting the Leave vote to side with 'it's too much bother.' Cunts!
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    the gardener reacted to jm51 in Question Time   
    You might be surprised.
    He has solid frame. No hint of the weasel about him. Unlike the other 'please like me' toffs that we've had to endure. The working class sometimes take to certain toffs and I could see JRM getting on fine with manual labourers in a pub.
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    the gardener reacted to Great Guy in Question Time   
    What gets me with Bremoaners is that they regularly say Brexiters are stupid. Then you get Bremoaners saying "look at all the money the EU gives us"... The EU is giving us some of our money back....
    You'd literally have to be retarded to think the "EU gives us money" is a valid argument for Bremoan.
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    the gardener reacted to One percent in Question Time   
    Everyone gets a say apart from those who voted for it. British democracy at work. 
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    the gardener reacted to XswampyX in Question Time   
    And they tell us how to spend it! 
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    the gardener reacted to Great Guy in Question Time   
    We give the EU £20 and we get £10 back and bremoaners thank the EU for the £10? Absolutedly bizarre.
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    the gardener got a reaction from Van Lady in The make us laugh or fuck off thread   
    EU migrants pay more tax than they take!!!
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45556246
    'The report said there was no evidence that increased European migration has damaged life in the UK.
    It concluded that EU migrants paid more in tax than they took in benefits, contributed more to the NHS workforce than the healthcare they accessed, and had no effect on crime rates.
     
     
     
    I think with this one I win the prize for the best joke of the year.
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    the gardener got a reaction from Van Lady in The make us laugh or fuck off thread   
    EU migrants pay more tax than they take!!!
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45556246
    'The report said there was no evidence that increased European migration has damaged life in the UK.
    It concluded that EU migrants paid more in tax than they took in benefits, contributed more to the NHS workforce than the healthcare they accessed, and had no effect on crime rates.
     
     
     
    I think with this one I win the prize for the best joke of the year.