Hopeful

The UK under Cameron and Osborne, and perhaps before, fell in love with China as they saw courting the wealthy, booming China as a panacea to our financial ills
You just have to look at the new Ningbo campus of Nottingham University as one example.
 

It is truly disgusting.
I know a few on egregious pensions that have retired and then return to work at the same place under grace and favour contracts because, you know, they need the money and people seem to think they either owe them a favour for long service or they have something to contribute - neither is generally, the case. Personally, these cunts seem to need the flattery of being wanted because largely they are useless lost fuckers without their job and title.
I willingly register my disgust to the faces of these people and tell them I think what they are doing is plain wrong when younger people with more alert brains and new ideas could do with the work. They are the equivalent of NHS bed blockers. My opinions and attitude never helped me however, as you might expect, because these old farts are part of the 'network' ensuring they all help each ther to keep plundering the system.
 

The UK under Cameron and Osborne, and perhaps before, fell in love with China as they saw courting the wealthy, booming China as a panacea to our financial ills
You just have to look at the new Ningbo campus of Nottingham University as one example.
 

The UK under Cameron and Osborne, and perhaps before, fell in love with China as they saw courting the wealthy, booming China as a panacea to our financial ills
You just have to look at the new Ningbo campus of Nottingham University as one example.
 

The picture is real. You will see it in any woodland or canopy
Fake news reaches all topics. Science (of any subject) is often sensationalised to get a headline, usually by journalists and sometimes allowed or encouraged by naive and misguided scientists that are happy to raise their profile over colleagues. Science is also often twisted by journalists for an agenda, and so the public don't know what to believe and subsequently, they lose confidence. If you can have separate Pro Remain and Pro Brexit papers peddling misinformation to suit their cause, you can certainly have the same for climate science or any topic. Science is also often scapegoated when things go wrong. With Climate science, there is also a hell of a lot of room for what was mentioned on another thread "yes, but what about", because in any story you cannot give Climate Science 101 and so journalists can take a stance to suit their readership and their editor, and so can obfuscate the issue. The science on MMGW is pretty clear even if there are still gaps in our understanding of some of the forcing factors and the interactions petween them. The debate is how climate change will play out.
As you said lets not derail the thread. I don't enjoy talking about it on the internet either.

Something has happened recently. I'm unsure what.
I first thought that with the So-Called BBC expose of Guy Verhofstadt that I thought would have been unheard of before.
The orchestration of  violence at TR's rally (it can be nothing but orchestration when moving that group to TR's rally) and its reporting today
I am wondering if public opinion is being moved.

Don't take on the world alone
This article is written for you
 

First read the article posted by HelenaGlass linked in an earlier post I made. It raises serious concerns over the vast amounts poured in to Iran and how billions are unaccounted for. 
Secondly despite the way US Intelligence services have been used to further the corrupt intentions of the Deep State they have a good understanding of global machinations, probably because they are heavily involved with them.
Trump is operating in a different way to politicians before him, he seems to have objectives that go further than lining the pockets of his followers in positions of power and influence. That's why he is hated by his detractors. I sincerely hope he has better intentions for the people than other politicians.
Iran under the Ayatollahs is a regime of terror. I have spoken to Iranian people in the UK who have relatives in Iran. The current regime is disliked, they are blamed for the shortages US sanctions cause. Perhaps Trump is calculating that re-imposing the sanctions and the resulting economic hardships will encourage the population to change the leadership for one less inclined to follow the present fundamental Islamic objectives. Trump often remarks how Iran is the source of Islamic terror atrocities. What do the US intelligence services know that is not out in the open?   

It's not so much the lack of MEP knowledge it's just how easily they have soaked up basic propoganda. 

Peoples' Vote May 23rd
Move to the right
Wouldn't be surprised if Farage and TR are buddies (they are both supported by Bannon and Trump), which is also perhaps why Farage made such clear water between himself and TR initially, and maybe why he has rubbished UKIP simply because they linked themselves to TR.
Quite possibly, a strong independent UK on the world stage plays well into Trump's MAGA goals.

We've indoctrinated a country with morons

Peoples' Vote May 23rd
Move to the right
Wouldn't be surprised if Farage and TR are buddies (they are both supported by Bannon and Trump), which is also perhaps why Farage made such clear water between himself and TR initially, and maybe why he has rubbished UKIP simply because they linked themselves to TR.
Quite possibly, a strong independent UK on the world stage plays well into Trump's MAGA goals.

Voting intentions have become just another vehicle for virtue signalling. I told my wife yesterday that if she intends to put a cross in any box on Thursday then she'd needs to start doing some research into the candidates and their policies instead of simply forming opinions based on conversations with other people. Because as your video demonstrates quite clearly, most of them haven't bothered to find anything out for themselves either.
Off topic, but loved the cuckboy who had to look to his girlfriend to see which way he was going to be told to vote. And the TDS afflicted mental case who had to get a Trump comment into a conversation about the EU elections. Good work gentlemen, good work.

We've indoctrinated a country with morons

We've indoctrinated a country with morons

At this stage is it very clear that the police are the armed wing of the Cult of Political Correctness. Any pretense that they are here to maintain law and order or to uphold the laws of the country is a sham.
All this will inevitably escalate. People will get seriousely hurt whilst the police do nothing (Rotherham anyone?). Citizens will form vigilante groups. Theocratic fascists will form counter-vigilante groups. Vigilantes will become armed militias. etc etc. until...
Civil War

The picture is real. You will see it in any woodland or canopy
Fake news reaches all topics. Science (of any subject) is often sensationalised to get a headline, usually by journalists and sometimes allowed or encouraged by naive and misguided scientists that are happy to raise their profile over colleagues. Science is also often twisted by journalists for an agenda, and so the public don't know what to believe and subsequently, they lose confidence. If you can have separate Pro Remain and Pro Brexit papers peddling misinformation to suit their cause, you can certainly have the same for climate science or any topic. Science is also often scapegoated when things go wrong. With Climate science, there is also a hell of a lot of room for what was mentioned on another thread "yes, but what about", because in any story you cannot give Climate Science 101 and so journalists can take a stance to suit their readership and their editor, and so can obfuscate the issue. The science on MMGW is pretty clear even if there are still gaps in our understanding of some of the forcing factors and the interactions petween them. The debate is how climate change will play out.
As you said lets not derail the thread. I don't enjoy talking about it on the internet either.

It's a difficult one,
A happy, clappy global world is a lovely ideal, where everyone gets along and is fed and population growth is under control, where we can co-exist sustainably without sending too many or any other species to extinction.
But it ain't going to happen. We're an animal, we're part of nature, we're driven to be sussessful above all else from the species right down to competition among subpopulations and families, and like any animal or plant (just look up at a tree canopy to see crown shyness) we will maintain borders/boundaries between us and outsiders to achieve that, and culture and religion is part of doing so.
We will therefore be subject to the rules of nature that we think we understand at some levels, especially

 
You can't have a happy clappy world unless you are really clever, and we're not, it's too complex. We have to accept the human condition, warts and all.
Ideally, the best times to live are during exponential growth or during the recovery after an overshoot when below carrying capacity.

You weren't meant to read it
All the journalist wanted you to read was the headline
All the public ever read are the headlines
Of course, the journalist had to cover his arse by burying the truth in his cursory aside in the article.
 
    It pisses me orf, because the truth is lost.   (Much, if not nearly all of the climate change mess/disbelief among the public is because of disingenous journalism.)

You weren't meant to read it
All the journalist wanted you to read was the headline
All the public ever read are the headlines
Of course, the journalist had to cover his arse by burying the truth in his cursory aside in the article.
 
    It pisses me orf, because the truth is lost.   (Much, if not nearly all of the climate change mess/disbelief among the public is because of disingenous journalism.)

Have a similar way, but to look at me you wouldn't think so. I do go on TV though, although I don't watch it and have ony rarely seen myself.

Show them the fur in your car tyres' treads

It's a difficult one,
A happy, clappy global world is a lovely ideal, where everyone gets along and is fed and population growth is under control, where we can co-exist sustainably without sending too many or any other species to extinction.
But it ain't going to happen. We're an animal, we're part of nature, we're driven to be sussessful above all else from the species right down to competition among subpopulations and families, and like any animal or plant (just look up at a tree canopy to see crown shyness) we will maintain borders/boundaries between us and outsiders to achieve that, and culture and religion is part of doing so.
We will therefore be subject to the rules of nature that we think we understand at some levels, especially

 
You can't have a happy clappy world unless you are really clever, and we're not, it's too complex. We have to accept the human condition, warts and all.
Ideally, the best times to live are during exponential growth or during the recovery after an overshoot when below carrying capacity.

That's my reading too.
I've always thought we would enact a No Deal Brexit - the way to achieving it seems to be forever kicked into the long grass, which I've always thought had much to do with keeping Remainers non-violent - look, we tried everything.
Only time will tell whether May 23rd is the finale. I've been wrong when I've thought it was the finale every time so far.

Yep, I can't see why the EU election is being hyped as if it will change anything.
"The parties are worried" mantra, is bollocks. They will only be worried at a GE.
The only reason I can think for TPTB's orchestrated media hype is that if they want to subsequently twist May 23rd as a "Peoples' Vote"
See if the headlines or MPs say on May 24th  "Clearly, May 23rd WAS a People's Vote"
In that case, it could be used either way depending upon the outcome and agenda
If TPTB want to Remain, a strong Remain outcome would give them that authority in Parliament
If TPTB want to Brexit, a strong Brexit outcome would give them that authority in Parliament,
Now, what does TPTB want ?