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It's a similar offer to Microsoft Azure.

With that: after a free or reduced period the prices are so eye-watering, so completely pie-in-the-sky that it's a no-go.

It might start from a few quid a month for a SQL database, but it will be incapable of much more than adding two fixed numbers together without timing out.

Mind you maybe the Oracle offer is better.

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Oracle cloud services are a nightmare... particularly so for existing customers. Their licensing system is archaic*.

I doubt this would be useful for many people, even if it is it won't be worth the constant emails/phone calls you will get from Oracle trying to sell you the full blown service... been there done that, was given a 90 day free trial, tried to use it for a day then gave up... then spend another 6 months batting off sales calls.

* have worked with Oracle DB's for about 20 years.

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On 07/11/2019 at 15:19, DTMark said:

It's a similar offer to Microsoft Azure.

With that: after a free or reduced period the prices are so eye-watering, so completely pie-in-the-sky that it's a no-go.

It might start from a few quid a month for a SQL database, but it will be incapable of much more than adding two fixed numbers together without timing out.

Mind you maybe the Oracle offer is better.

It's FREE! FREE! Because Oracle loves you.

Nothing at all to do with them trying to lock you into their ecosystem so they can gouge you left, right & centre once you are dependent on them. No siree, Oracle has never, ever, ever operated like that.

[spoiler: that's pretty much their business model]

*******

Nearly all cutting edge applications use open source software at their core - especially machine learning, AI, etc, etc.

It's totally unnecessary to use proprietary software today - unless your institution is already locked in.

Don't lock yourself into any proprietary crap unless you have a good reason to do so.

You can do the world, and everything, using a Linux box (or even a MS one if that's your bent).

https://www.theregister.co.uk is good - but if you don't know about that already, you shouldn't be venturing into 'cloud' computing.

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The Azure model compares favourably with hosting your own in-house equipment - if you need extra resources to run some massive batch job for a few hours a week it can be cost-effective.

If what you need is website hosting which must always be "on", 24/7, cannot "power down" and does more than 'SELECT simple_value FROM table' for which you'll need to ascend the work-units table of pricing amazingly quickly, the pricing is just so ridiculous that you could, quite literally, have multiple dedicated boxes plus one or more idle servers on standby at a decent data centre for less money. Which is what we do.

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1 hour ago, DTMark said:

The Azure model compares favourably with hosting your own in-house equipment - if you need extra resources to run some massive batch job for a few hours a week it can be cost-effective.

If what you need is website hosting which must always be "on", 24/7, cannot "power down" and does more than 'SELECT simple_value FROM table' for which you'll need to ascend the work-units table of pricing amazingly quickly, the pricing is just so ridiculous that you could, quite literally, have multiple dedicated boxes plus one or more idle servers on standby at a decent data centre for less money. Which is what we do.

I don't understand this; why would you pay somebody else £££ to run your batch jobs when you can run them one your home network - perhaps taking e.g. 10x as long, but for free (well, almost free - whilst utilising your already invested in infrastructure making it much more cost efficient). How can paying somebody else to compute your stuff be cost efficient whilst your already invested in home/local network sits idle, perhaps turned off for the night.

All (cheap, generic) web hosts run 24/7. 

Doesn't it make more sense to do the computationally heavy stuff on your existing network, leveraging your investment, then use remote hosts (as marketed as cloud) to do what remote hosts are useful for - serving simple web pages 24/7 - with the useful data generated by using your own computers that you've already purchased?

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