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Far-right extremism: 'I'm ashamed of my Nazi tattoos' (By Sangita Myska)

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The number of far-right extremists on the UK's anti-radicalisation scheme has risen significantly, latest figures show.

"Steve", who is on the Prevent programme, says drink and drugs helped fuel his extremism.

When I met Steve, the first thing I noticed were his prominent far-right and Nazi tattoos.

I asked him to explain them to me and, as he did so, he appeared to examine his ink-stained skin with a mixture of confusion and disgust.

"During the worst moment of my drinking, I went to A&E on several occasions, where I believe I was being quite abusive in the reception area.

 

"I was carrying around a book lots of people consider dangerous - called American Psycho - a book full of violence and nasty stuff."

Steve says the drinking and drug abuse meant what happened next remains hazy.

"I found myself in my flat, surrounded by policemen, and the counter-terrorism unit identified themselves. I realised, I was in some kind of serious trouble."

It is, controversially, now a requirement that hospital staff report those they believe to be at risk of radicalisation to the authorities.

Steve cannot remember for sure whether this happened in his case. But he now receives intense one-to-one counselling funded by Channel, an arm of the Prevent strategy.

His mentor, Mohammed Ashfaq, founded a drug and alcohol charity.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40632975

This sounds totally made up.

 

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8 minutes ago, WorkingPoor said:

"I was carrying around a book lots of people consider dangerous - called American Psycho - a book full of violence and nasty stuff."

I found the chapter about Phil Collins to be particularly shocking and nasty.

Edit: In fact, it still haunts me.

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3 minutes ago, axolotl said:

I found the chapter about Phil Collins to be particularly shocking and nasty.

Edit: In fact, it still haunts me.

Is this the book of the Christian Bale film? i don't understand what it has to do with far right extremism?

 

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20 minutes ago, WorkingPoor said:

The number of far-right extremists on the UK's anti-radicalisation scheme has risen significantly, latest figures show.

"Steve", who is on the Prevent programme, says drink and drugs helped fuel his extremism.

When I met Steve, the first thing I noticed were his prominent far-right and Nazi tattoos.

I asked him to explain them to me and, as he did so, he appeared to examine his ink-stained skin with a mixture of confusion and disgust.

"During the worst moment of my drinking, I went to A&E on several occasions, where I believe I was being quite abusive in the reception area.

 

"I was carrying around a book lots of people consider dangerous - called American Psycho - a book full of violence and nasty stuff."

Steve says the drinking and drug abuse meant what happened next remains hazy.

"I found myself in my flat, surrounded by policemen, and the counter-terrorism unit identified themselves. I realised, I was in some kind of serious trouble."

It is, controversially, now a requirement that hospital staff report those they believe to be at risk of radicalisation to the authorities.

Steve cannot remember for sure whether this happened in his case. But he now receives intense one-to-one counselling funded by Channel, an arm of the Prevent strategy.

His mentor, Mohammed Ashfaq, founded a drug and alcohol charity.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40632975

This sounds totally made up.

 

I'd be tempted to call bullshit on this as well.

Even if it was true, are we expected to believe that Neo Nazis have become that much of a problem in the UK to justify the article?

What do we think we have more of an issue with in this country, neo Nazis or Islamic extremism?

Diversionary bollocks, I'm yet to hear of an Imam from one of the mosques that the Manchester bomber attended be given the treatment or even a mild grilling for that matter. Maybe Piers Morgan can go apeshit at one of them on his program for a change.

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14 minutes ago, Sgt Hartman said:

I'd be tempted to call bullshit on this as well.

Even if it was true, are we expected to believe that Neo Nazis have become that much of a problem in the UK to justify the article?

What do we think we have more of an issue with in this country, neo Nazis or Islamic extremism?

Diversionary bollocks, I'm yet to hear of an Imam from one of the mosques that the Manchester bomber attended be given the treatment or even a mild grilling for that matter. Maybe Piers Morgan can go apeshit at one of them on his program for a change.

The number of serious far right extremists in the UK of any significance is so small I expect each has his own dedicated Special Branch officer. Classing very dysfunctional individual with a history of violence, drink and drug problems as a neo Nazi because of their poor choice in tattoos and penchant for racist outbursts is indicative of people who have not got the slightest idea about the ideology that underpins fascism. This guy is not an activist in any true meaning of the word

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I remember reading something on here that claimed something like 20% of terrorist prisoners in the UK were 'far-right'. For the life of me I cannot understand how that can be anywhere near correct.

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2 hours ago, Sgt Hartman said:

I'd be tempted to call bullshit on this as well.

Even if it was true, are we expected to believe that Neo Nazis have become that much of a problem in the UK to justify the article?

What do we think we have more of an issue with in this country, neo Nazis or Islamic extremism?

Diversionary bollocks, I'm yet to hear of an Imam from one of the mosques that the Manchester bomber attended be given the treatment or even a mild grilling for that matter. Maybe Piers Morgan can go apeshit at one of them on his program for a change.

So, youre planning a far right takeover. Do you recruit people who are so fcke off their tits they at rember why they are AE. What drugs was he abusing, be specific. Bar speed and coke, most are not going to make you agressive

One, a muslim drugand booze counsellor is useless. Ive never heard of one.

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2 hours ago, Sgt Hartman said:

I'd be tempted to call bullshit on this as well.

Even if it was true, are we expected to believe that Neo Nazis have become that much of a problem in the UK to justify the article?

What do we think we have more of an issue with in this country, neo Nazis or Islamic extremism?

Diversionary bollocks, I'm yet to hear of an Imam from one of the mosques that the Manchester bomber attended be given the treatment or even a mild grilling for that matter. Maybe Piers Morgan can go apeshit at one of them on his program for a change.

Spot on.

Living in manc, I'm waiting to her of the raids on the didsbury mosque, the investigation of the imans and the radicalisation, how's those child-grooming sex cases going?

... nope ... not a fucking bean

... we're all supposed to wear fucking dumbass bee tattoos as some sort of fucking talisman AGAINST FUCKING KIDS BEING BLOWN UP AT A CONCERT.

I feel like I'm walking around in some weird sci-fi film in this city, nobody seems to bat an eyelid and has all this fucking idiotic 'love will overcome' ... christ.

 

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20 minutes ago, JFK said:

Spot on.

Living in manc, I'm waiting to her of the raids on the didsbury mosque, the investigation of the imans and the radicalisation, how's those child-grooming sex cases going?

... nope ... not a fucking bean

... we're all supposed to wear fucking dumbass bee tattoos as some sort of fucking talisman AGAINST FUCKING KIDS BEING BLOWN UP AT A CONCERT.

I feel like I'm walking around in some weird sci-fi film in this city, nobody seems to bat an eyelid and has all this fucking idiotic 'love will overcome' ... christ.

 

Scratch the surface and you will find a lot of anger. I'm now finding that out and about when walking my dog, people engage in conversation and quite quickly turn the conversation round to the mess we are in.  This in unsolicited by me, frankly I had got to the point of thinking, believe what you want to believe. 

These people no longer seem to believe what they are told, they question and ask what is going on and why. 

Why they start these conversations is I think because I'm just a random Bod walking through the forest. I don't know who they are or where they work, so they feel pretty safe. 

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25 minutes ago, spygirl said:

So, youre planning a far right takeover. Do you recruit people who are so fcke off their tits they at rember why they are AE. What drugs was he abusing, be specific. Bar speed and coke, most are not going to make you agressive

One, a muslim drugand booze counsellor is useless. Ive never heard of one.

Quite.

At least this blokes excuse was that he was a dysfunctional, addicted fuckup.

The guys that really do want to kill us seem pretty compus mentus and perfectly aware of what they're doing.

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44 minutes ago, One percent said:

Scratch the surface and you will find a lot of anger. I'm now finding that out and about when walking my dog, people engage in conversation and quite quickly turn the conversation round to the mess we are in.  This in unsolicited by me, frankly I had got to the point of thinking, believe what you want to believe. 

These people no longer seem to believe what they are told, they question and ask what is going on and why. 

Why they start these conversations is I think because I'm just a random Bod walking through the forest. I don't know who they are or where they work, so they feel pretty safe. 

I witnessed a real outburst in a pub recently.  And the unusual aspect was that just about everybody was 'as mad as hell' and happy to speak their mind. Not the usual embarrassed silence.

I really hope we don't start getting 'tit for tat' reactions. 

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4 minutes ago, Wahoo said:

I witnessed a real outburst in a pub recently.  And the unusual aspect was that just about everybody was 'as mad as hell' and happy to speak their mind. Not the usual embarrassed silence.

I really hope we don't start getting 'tit for tat' reactions. 

My thinking is that people are beginning to wake up to the fact that their very way of life is under threat. Hopefully, when the anger manifests, it will be directed in the right direction.  Sadly, I'm not sure it will and can see us all turning on each other, fighting it out for diminishing resources. Whilst the rich make out like bandits 

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2 hours ago, JFK said:

... we're all supposed to wear fucking dumbass bee tattoos as some sort of fucking talisman AGAINST FUCKING KIDS BEING BLOWN UP AT A CONCERT.

I feel like I'm walking around in some weird sci-fi film in this city, nobody seems to bat an eyelid and has all this fucking idiotic 'love will overcome' ... christ.

 

Possibly not all Mancunians are so loved up.].

Lead story on tonight's Granada Reports is the targeting of NASFAT Islamic Centre in Newton Heath.

Third time it has been attacked, first was thought to be a response to Lee Rigby murder, second time their community minibus was destroyed, this time a flammable liquid is thought to have been used through a window, gutting newly refurbished classrooms. Only the walls and roof remain.

Police not linking to anything at this time but viewing the attack as a potential hate crime.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/mosque-targeted-suspected-arson-attack-13341212

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Considering the amount of full arm, full leg and full body tattoos that can be seen in every UK supermarket and on every UK street it's unlikely that any of them don't have a nazi emblem somewhere in amongst their tattoos - even with the so called lefties and the SJWs.

It's like walking among Borneo people. 

The story is total bullshine.

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