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Frank Hovis
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2 hours ago, spunko said:

On the subject of licence evasion (so called), has anyone received the latest ruse? Before all this covid business kicked off, I received one of these disguised as a Royal Mail letter!

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The familiar TV license typeface for the instructions gave the game away, I recognised it straight away, but I am sure many would think it was a genuine Royal Mail handout... Why are Royal Mail tolerati.. oh why do I bother.

Please could someone who has one of these make an official complaint and escalate it to the ombudsman [for which the complained about have to pay a fee to the ombudsman 300ish] .

Complaint text: the new letters are not usable as backup bog roll.

Resolution: Replacement bog roll compensation at whatever scummers are asking on ebay right now.

Come on someone, I dare ya.

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4 minutes ago, BWW said:

Why did you not just buy one of the briefcase sized rechargeable battery packs with starter cables you clip to the battery?

If you do, I'd recommend an oversized one. In theory my 2L diesel should be started by a 100 quid one and it did once when it just turned over but not start so battery only just gone. But when it was a week or so beyond that [2 weeks not used], the low powered thing did nothing except start the alarm. At the time I still had AA cover from the warranty but still felt foolish calling them out [again].

Several reasons at the time:

If it didn't start again then I needed it fixed ASAP as it was my only practical way to get to work.

It's an 11 yo 175k miles diesel. Turbo 2 litre meaning very little working space around the engine and despite having had it for ten years I don't know diesels.

Plus at that age it isn't necessarily going to be the battery (though it was that time)

If it was my old 1.3 petrol Ford Escort - lovely car, loads of working room - I was happy to have a go.  A simple petrol engine that I can work on would be a plus in my next car.

8 minutes ago, eight said:

I haven't paid last years yet!

Well done you but I thought they got you in the end.

I just do DD and forget about it; it's not actually unreasonable in Cornwall.

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Sadly, most people paying monthly by direct debit won't actually be cancelling their licence by cancelling thier DD, you need to also apply for a licence cancellation and refund as you're actually paying for the licence in advance not arrears. Kinda sucks, but you do get the joy of asking BBC for money back, so it's a double hit for them, loss of income and paying refunds.

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4 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

Well done you but I thought they got you in the end.

I just do DD and forget about it; it's not actually unreasonable in Cornwall.

I was late with my last payment (not on direct debit)

The bastards hit me with a summons and a £58 fee. Which they wouldn't waive.

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5 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

 

Well done you but I thought they got you in the end.

I just do DD and forget about it; it's not actually unreasonable in Cornwall.

How it works is, I really, really, begrudge paying it. So I pay it daily at £2-3, to be as much of a pain in the arse as possible. Some days I might forget. I do get reminder letters but it seems that as long as you're paying something, regularly, they don't seem to go for enforcement measures. Maybe they can't? Anyway I still had a bit of last year's to pay when the current fiasco kicked off, so I stopped. Haven't heard anything further.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, eight said:

How it works is, I really, really, begrudge paying it. So I pay it daily at £2-3, to be as much of a pain in the arse as possible. Some days I might forget. I do get reminder letters but it seems that as long as you're paying something, regularly, they don't seem to go for enforcement measures. Maybe they can't? Anyway I still had a bit of last year's to pay when the current fiasco kicked off, so I stopped. Haven't heard anything further.

 

 

I thought there was a movement on here of folk who sign up for some course to get 100% student exemption? Guess it may be too costly if you don't live alone.

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21 minutes ago, BWW said:

I thought there was a movement on here of folk who sign up for some course to get 100% student exemption? Guess it may be too costly if you don't live alone.

I was asking about it and it didn't stack up unless you wanted to pay out to do the course anyway then the lack of council tax was a welcome bonus. If you were just doing it to save paying council tax it didn't work.

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I want to cancel my tv tax but can they come in to someone's home without a warrant? I'm afraid they'll say they are the postman or something and then force their way in when I open the door. Also, they don't have any legal powers like police do they? 

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3 minutes ago, HolyCow said:

I want to cancel my tv tax but can they come in to someone's home without a warrant? I'm afraid they'll say they are the postman or something and then force their way in when I open the door. Also, they don't have any legal powers like police do they? 

They don't force their way in though they can con their way in by implying that they can come in. Warrants are only if they have evidence to get one and they'll try the initial approach first.

My suggestion for cancelling is because right at this moment they are doing nothing.

When restrictions are lifted if you're concerned about it then buy a new licence.

I am perfectly legal in not requiring a licence so am not taking any risk; not that I would be offensive if I did ever get a visit but it's been six years now and I'm still yet to see anyone.

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1 minute ago, Frank Hovis said:

They don't force their way in though they can con their way in by implying that they can come in. Warrants are only if they have evidence to get one and they'll try the initial approach first.

My suggestion for cancelling is because right at this moment they are doing nothing.

When restrictions are lifted if you're concerned about it then buy a new licence.

I am perfectly legal in not requiring a licence so am not taking any risk; not that I would be offensive if I did ever get a visit but it's been six years now and I'm still yet to see anyone.

Have you read the tv licence resistance forum?

Not being offensive will still count against you if you speak to them and refuse them entry. On that forum it's said they need 2 items of evidence to get a very rare warrant, refusing entry is one. Polite or not does not change things.

If you do let them in, it's said many of them lie so not a good idea either.

Suggested policy is to say nowt and shut their door in their face. Gently is fine but politely should be avoided as it'll be used in evidence against you.

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7 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

They don't force their way in though they can con their way in by implying that they can come in. Warrants are only if they have evidence to get one and they'll try the initial approach first.

My suggestion for cancelling is because right at this moment they are doing nothing.

When restrictions are lifted if you're concerned about it then buy a new licence.

I am perfectly legal in not requiring a licence so am not taking any risk; not that I would be offensive if I did ever get a visit but it's been six years now and I'm still yet to see anyone.

I intend to cancel but the way TV licensing works I wouldn't be surprised if they try and backdate it if I start it up again in 3 months or so. Just looking into their refunds policy, it's worded in such a way as if refunding the customer is at their discretion, not a legal duty. 

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9 minutes ago, BWW said:

Have you read the tv licence resistance forum?

Not being offensive will still count against you if you speak to them and refuse them entry. On that forum it's said they need 2 items of evidence to get a very rare warrant, refusing entry is one. Polite or not does not change things.

If you do let them in, it's said many of them lie so not a good idea either.

Suggested policy is to say nowt and shut their door in their face. Gently is fine but politely should be avoided as it'll be used in evidence against you.

If they lie and say they have a letter to sign or something, how does the not saying anything work if you have to ask them for ID? Does that count against you? I mean, if I ask them for ID and they show me a TV licence badge, I'd shut the door on them but then I suppose they can then use that against you?

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5 hours ago, gilf said:

I’m with you on the car front @Frank Hovis 

i think what we are seeing with the police is a chance to flex their muscles, policing these days has turned in to a really shit job, I’d imagine it used to consist of at least a little bit of decent work, community stuff, prevention, patrols etc but now it’s all domestic violence and drug fall out. 

I suspect the police have very little interaction which isn’t confrontational and so any opportunity to get a few charges on  the books with no back chat, violence or arguments will be jumped at. 

They simply don’t both with checking tax and MOT normally so any chance to double up will be jumped at IMO.

Isn't most of the tax and MOT checking done automatically now, with ANPR cameras? Both the static roadside ones (Google map of ANPR locations indicates west Cornwall might be OK) and also the ones inside [edit: some] police cars, that automatically check every car that goes past.

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6 hours ago, spunko said:

And car tax (VED) as well. I have SORN'ed my car for the next month as it's obvious this won't be short-lived. Saving about £30 there.

As an aside, don't let the #VileBBC condition you into thinking that under normal conditions they bother to knock on doors or turn up... They don't. I haven't paid mine for years, all I get is the odd letter to The Homeowner.

The 2nd paragraph is incorrect. I know, as they turned up at my door early one Saturday morning after I ignored the threatening letters.

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14 minutes ago, RWJ said:

The 2nd paragraph is incorrect. I know, as they turned up at my door early one Saturday morning after I ignored the threatening letters.

Did you go "legally license free" and "remove their right of implied access" (lol) ?

I suppose it depends where you live, but aside from some G4S wanker turn up to deliver a handwritten note, I have never heard a peep in years.

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2 hours ago, HolyCow said:

I want to cancel my tv tax but can they come in to someone's home without a warrant? I'm afraid they'll say they are the postman or something and then force their way in when I open the door. Also, they don't have any legal powers like police do they? 

If they ever call, if, then

Say nothing

Believe nothing they say

Close the door

The end

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32 minutes ago, RWJ said:

The 2nd paragraph is incorrect. I know, as they turned up at my door early one Saturday morning after I ignored the threatening letters.

What happened? Did they force their way in and ransack you house?

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2 hours ago, BWW said:

Have you read the tv licence resistance forum?

Not being offensive will still count against you if you speak to them and refuse them entry. On that forum it's said they need 2 items of evidence to get a very rare warrant, refusing entry is one. Polite or not does not change things.

If you do let them in, it's said many of them lie so not a good idea either.

Suggested policy is to say nowt and shut their door in their face. Gently is fine but politely should be avoided as it'll be used in evidence against you.

I have a ring doorbell, so any conversation will be recorded, hoping just the presence of the recording device will deter them, move on to an easier target.

But I legally don't need a licence, I'd let them in so long as they were honest with me, not letting liars in, and I'll have the recording if they do lie.

but, they will have to wait for the children to stop playing on the xbox before I allow them to inspect the TV, so they will be in a for a long wait, they will play until I stop them, and I may be inclined to leave them at it.

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Looks like you can't cancel or get a refund at the moment as all their contact centres are closed. How convenient 9_9.

Also, they seem to require evidence to support your cancellation and then it is up to them to decide if they refund you , wtf! 

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2 minutes ago, snaga said:

I have a ring doorbell, so any conversation will be recorded, hoping just the presence of the recording device will deter them, move on to an easier target.

But I legally don't need a licence, I'd let them in so long as they were honest with me, not letting liars in, and I'll have the recording if they do lie.

but, they will have to wait for the children to stop playing on the xbox before I allow them to inspect the TV, so they will be in a for a long wait, they will play until I stop them, and I may be inclined to leave them at it.

I'd insist on a CRB check before you let them in while children are present.

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7 minutes ago, HolyCow said:

Looks like you can't cancel or get a refund at the moment as all their contact centres are closed. How convenient 9_9.

Also, they seem to require evidence to support your cancellation and then it is up to them to decide if they refund you , wtf! 

I would advise spending some time on forums like TV License Resistance researching the ins and outs, so that you are prepared. If you live with someone who is not the sort to firmly shut the door if some random person calls and doesn't identify themselves, then don't bother tbh.

Although I have heard that even if they come into your house (which will only happen after you invite them in) and they find that you should have a TV License then you are given the opportunity to sign up then and there. I don't know how people end up in court tbh, they must be a bit thick.

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