Death Of London

[Wight Flight]

27 minutes ago, ninjaborrower said:

I think this highlights the reason why the west is gone, the fact people can "work" from home, no one gos anywhere to build or stick something together on a factory floor,

 Some will say its a leap forward that someone can sit in there box room in there timberframed barret rabbit hutch new build on there chinese built laptop pretending to work while they have pornhub on and wanking

 But i for one say no

It is another London centric view.

Most of the people I know cannot work from home.

[Carl Fimble]

1 hour ago, ninjaborrower said:

I think this highlights the reason why the west is gone, the fact people can "work" from home, no one gos anywhere to build or stick something together on a factory floor,

 Some will say its a leap forward that someone can sit in there box room in there timberframed barret rabbit hutch new build on there chinese built laptop pretending to work while they have pornhub on and wanking

 But i for one say no

[Errol]

Current Government advice is to work from home for a period of probably 6 months (minimum). More likely it will be until warmer weather in May/June.

Nobody who can work from home will be back in London until May/June 2021 at the earliest. And even then, home working will be 50% of working from now on at minimum.

 

The City of London is dying on its feet

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8827163/The-City-London-dying-feet-JEFF-PRESTRIDGE-returns-ghost-town-streets.html

Edited October 11, 2020 by Errol

[MrPin]

Maybe the city of London needs more bell foundries?

[spygirl]

11 hours ago, gibbon said:

MS moved most of it's well paid tech work to India years ago. It's the reason everything they produce is a bigger bag of shit than 20 years ago. 

That's IBM, not MS.

MS development is too skilled to consider putting in shithokles with limited skillsbase. MS has had enough trouble keeping its sw people in the us.

IBM shifted most of the low end customer support jobs that make up the bulk of its workforce to various cheap offshore location - India, Argentina, EE.

Theyve kept the specialist top end consultants, dealing the high end big margin banking and corporate business. However theres a risk these people will leave or retire from IBM in the next 5-10 years.

IBM has been a total failure, no longer able to generate much profit from their work. It should have been split years ago. The recent announcement is too late.

[spygirl]

10 hours ago, Wight Flight said:

It is another London centric view.

Most of the people I know cannot work from home.

But must people commuting into London could, as they work in services, in offices.

Someone with a large amount of physical inputs for processing needs a factory.

Someone who's output is digitised doesn't.

[gibbon]

28 minutes ago, spygirl said:

That's IBM, not MS.

MS development is too skilled to consider putting in shithokles with limited skillsbase. MS has had enough trouble keeping its sw people in the us.

IBM shifted most of the low end customer support jobs that make up the bulk of its workforce to various cheap offshore location - India, Argentina, EE.

Theyve kept the specialist top end consultants, dealing the high end big margin banking and corporate business. However theres a risk these people will leave or retire from IBM in the next 5-10 years.

IBM has been a total failure, no longer able to generate much profit from their work. It should have been split years ago. The recent announcement is too late.

Sorry don't believe that about MS (I know fuck all about IBM so will take your word for it). I spoke to a core windows dev/manager years ago who told me most of it had already been outsourced in India.

[Stuey]

1 hour ago, spygirl said:

But must people commuting into London could, as they work in services, in offices.

Someone with a large amount of physical inputs for processing needs a factory.

Someone who's output is digitised doesn't.

Someone's input could be rather proved upon.

[spygirl]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8827163/The-City-London-dying-feet-JEFF-PRESTRIDGE-returns-ghost-town-streets.html

[DownwardSpiral]

10 minutes ago, spygirl said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8827163/The-City-London-dying-feet-JEFF-PRESTRIDGE-returns-ghost-town-streets.html

Basically “wahhhhh how dare my life be changed - all you plebs should go back to travelling for hours into London every day so that you can bounce ideas around about our pensions and ISAs, the jewel in our economic crown”.
 

Fuck me, the pain experienced by these people knowing that London does not have to be the be all and end all for life in the UK is clear to see. However even this guy couldn’t stomach living in his expensive dilapidated flat in London any longer.

The constant gridlock and cars spewing filth all day long in London puts me right off. It is a horrible environment to be in and even the constant romanticising of the place - such as the way certain parks, spaces and streets are spoken about - cannot overcome this for me.

When I was younger, growing up in South Wales, London did appeal somewhat but the anticipation of visiting was always far more exciting than actually arriving there and spending time in the city. I always left London after a couple of days with a sense of complete disappointment.

[Austin Allegro]

7 hours ago, DownwardSpiral said:

Basically “wahhhhh how dare my life be changed - all you plebs should go back to travelling for hours into London every day so that you can bounce ideas around about our pensions and ISAs, the jewel in our economic crown”.
 

Fuck me, the pain experienced by these people knowing that London does not have to be the be all and end all for life in the UK is clear to see. However even this guy couldn’t stomach living in his expensive dilapidated flat in London any longer.

The constant gridlock and cars spewing filth all day long in London puts me right off. It is a horrible environment to be in and even the constant romanticising of the place - such as the way certain parks, spaces and streets are spoken about - cannot overcome this for me.

When I was younger, growing up in South Wales, London did appeal somewhat but the anticipation of visiting was always far more exciting than actually arriving there and spending time in the city. I always left London after a couple of days with a sense of complete disappointment.

BS article. The shot of Oxford Circus must have been taken about 5am - even then there would still be a few people around. I was there a couple of weeks ago at 'rush' hour and although definitely quieter than pre-Covid, it wasn't like that.

 

[Shamone]

7 hours ago, DownwardSpiral said:

Basically “wahhhhh how dare my life be changed - all you plebs should go back to travelling for hours into London every day so that you can bounce ideas around about our pensions and ISAs, the jewel in our economic crown”.
 

Fuck me, the pain experienced by these people knowing that London does not have to be the be all and end all for life in the UK is clear to see. However even this guy couldn’t stomach living in his expensive dilapidated flat in London any longer.

The constant gridlock and cars spewing filth all day long in London puts me right off. It is a horrible environment to be in and even the constant romanticising of the place - such as the way certain parks, spaces and streets are spoken about - cannot overcome this for me.

When I was younger, growing up in South Wales, London did appeal somewhat but the anticipation of visiting was always far more exciting than actually arriving there and spending time in the city. I always left London after a couple of days with a sense of complete disappointment.

Agree. What a shithole. Also grew up in South Wales.

[Dave Beans]

10 hours ago, Errol said:

Current Government advice is to work from home for a period of probably 6 months (minimum). More likely it will be until warmer weather in May/June.

Nobody who can work from home will be back in London until May/June 2021 at the earliest. And even then, home working will be 50% of working from now on at minimum.

 

The City of London is dying on its feet

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8827163/The-City-London-dying-feet-JEFF-PRESTRIDGE-returns-ghost-town-streets.html

The damage to people's mental health will be colossal...

[Austin Allegro]

30 minutes ago, Shamone said:

Agree. What a shithole. Also grew up in South Wales.

London wasn't so bad before the late 90s property boom (which was also the time that Blair opened the immigration floodgates). Up until then it was still possible for someone on a fairly modest graduate salary to afford a small flat (either to rent or buy) within fairly easy reach of Zone 1. Eg some friends of mine, both working in publishing so not highly paid, bought a 1930s mansions flat in Highgate for £70,000 in 1996. Nice area and 20 mins by tube into central London. Absolutely unthinkable now.

[haroldshand]

1 minute ago, The XYY Man said:

I could make a tenuous claim to that being true of me - seeing I popped my cherry down there...

 

 

Baa,  Mehh!!

[spygirl]

From peak city to ghost town:

the urban centres hit hardest by Covid-19 FT research shows London and New York have suffered the most from the pandemic, but more substantial change lies ahead

https://www.ft.com/content/d5b45dba-14dc-443b-8a8c-e9e9bbc3fb9a

Few cities have escaped the impact. Visits to central Paris were down 40 per cent in the week to October 9 compared with the pre-pandemic average in January, and even Stockholm, which has had much lighter restrictions, has suffered a decline of 20 per cent.

But it is cities like New York and London, where high-rise office buildings host a large number of professional services and banking staff now mostly working from home, which have suffered the most.

 

Falling office demand and drying up investment are signs that the shift towards a more diffuse urban landscape could have already started.

Homeworking has rapidly eroded the need to fill large towers with office and knowledge workers, which Mr Florida refers to as the “last gasp of the industrial revolution”. Instead, it has created the possibility for businesses to consider smaller units or less expensive locations.

 

 

 

[The Generation Game]

On 11/10/2020 at 21:48, The XYY Man said:

I could make a tenuous claim to that being true of me - seeing I popped my cherry down there...

 

 

Wiggy and Stacey - based on a true story. 

[Syd Germs]

On 11/10/2020 at 21:48, The XYY Man said:

I could make a tenuous claim to that being true of me - seeing I popped my cherry down there...

You mean one of your piles burst while being slipped a length through a glory hole between two public toilet cubicles.

How romantic.

[BWW]

So now someone wants to increase congestion zone to N-S circulars ....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8847025/London-Tube-train-bus-staff-told-prepare-total-SHUTDOWN.html

There will be ULEZ cams next Oct so presumably they can move installation of those forward a bit but will still take months. If they don't remove the 90% discounts for residents it may also increase traffic to zone 1 from those of us who used to drive there [like me - now I just don't go at all, what's the point anyway if all the good stuff's closed].

Not convinced it will even lead to quiet roads. Personally I'd love completely car free roads and would then cycle [milk floats for deliveries with very low speed limiters] but this pricing some out whilst allowing the champagne swilling pigs to roam free is just hastening death of London, who wants to live in that type of ghetto.

Looking at usage, seems that closing down the tube, getting rid of the overpaid train drivers etc and slowly reopening only when lockdown ends would be possible right now. Everyone can use busses for a while. What's the solidarity with 80k train drivers like from the 30k bus drivers? Probable saving by doing maintenance on tube system a bit easier whilst it's down.

What is the aim of demands for CZ changes and who is behind it? Boris's bung to Carrie maybe?

[Stuey]

On 15/10/2020 at 14:39, The XYY Man said:

Tales of my cock-knocking activities have been grossly exaggerated...

 

XYY

I don't think that's possible for the Puff of Peterlee...

[Rare Bear]

15 minutes ago, BWW said:

So now someone wants to increase congestion zone to N-S circulars ....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8847025/London-Tube-train-bus-staff-told-prepare-total-SHUTDOWN.html

There will be ULEZ cams next Oct so presumably they can move installation of those forward a bit but will still take months. If they don't remove the 90% discounts for residents it may also increase traffic to zone 1 from those of us who used to drive there [like me - now I just don't go at all, what's the point anyway if all the good stuff's closed].

Not convinced it will even lead to quiet roads. Personally I'd love completely car free roads and would then cycle [milk floats for deliveries with very low speed limiters] but this pricing some out whilst allowing the champagne swilling pigs to roam free is just hastening death of London, who wants to live in that type of ghetto.

Looking at usage, seems that closing down the tube, getting rid of the overpaid train drivers etc and slowly reopening only when lockdown ends would be possible right now. Everyone can use busses for a while. What's the solidarity with 80k train drivers like from the 30k bus drivers? Probable saving by doing maintenance on tube system a bit easier whilst it's down.

What is the aim of demands for CZ changes and who is behind it? Boris's bung to Carrie maybe?

Sometimes I wonder if Carrie us to Johnston what Meghan is to Harry.😁

[Stuey]

6 minutes ago, The XYY Man said:

None of that shit going on up here Stew.

I would suggest that you try Middlesbrough if you're after some man love...

 

XYY

A man of experience speaks..

Edited October 16, 2020 by Stuey

[Stuey]

32 minutes ago, The XYY Man said:

No experience of the brown arts I'm afraid.

There may have been a few bodily secretions trapped under my helmet over the years, but never shit...

 

XYY

There's a boy I'd like to introduce you to...

@JoeDavola

[JoeDavola]

4 minutes ago, Stuey said:

There's a boy I'd like to introduce you to...

@JoeDavola

Nah I didn't shove my cock or anything else that matter up that young ladies arse.

That's not to say someone else wasn't doing so on a regular basis, which may have caused the 'leak' in question.

[Frank Hovis]

2 minutes ago, JoeDavola said:

Nah I didn't shove my cock or anything else that matter up that young ladies arse.

That's not to say someone else wasn't doing so on a regular basis, which may have caused the 'leak' in question.

 

When it's come up on Mumsnet (you have to read those threads don't you!) there is always reference to "leakage" if you do it too much.

Yuk.