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sarahbell

Security guards biggest Corona Risk

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11 minutes ago, sarahbell said:

Never mind the nurses or care home staff .. security guards at most risk of dying.

What's the average BMI, ethnicity and Vit D level of a security guard ?

Just had a thought

Should measure the Vit D level, BMI and ethnicity of every Covid19 mortality

 

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I don't think security guards are short of work, they appear to be outside every large supermarket, and even the smaller ones right now, and for shops that don't normally have one.

But they don't have any PPE such as masks or face guards, and they probably have a few hundred people walk past them every shift. 

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Police are in a similar situation. Not wearing masks (' cause it makes them look scary and might frighten the public!), spending their time at work car-sharing with criminals and colleagues  (social distancing impossible), and questioning as many dubious characters as they can (ie folk ignoring solical distancing advice, so higher risk of infection).

We need to furlough the police to protect the public ??

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As a test if I walk into any shop this week, and they don't sell basic PPE (face mask, face shield), I know with a finger in the wind, that this stuff is still uber rare even after 2 months of the market saying to people - MAKE MORE OF ME.

I am not talking about buying it on ebay from a private seller who bought tons of this stuff, and they are trying to shift this stuff from their garage. I am taking about the new stock that we should be retooling up for, and making right now. A bunch of people still don't shop "online" and will refuse to - it needs to be on the shelves, accessible to all. For care workers, for police, for security guards, for shop workers, and everybody else, eventually.

It's fine for Dyson and Tesla to make ventilators - the government didn't ask for them. Ventilators are sexy. Face masks are not - but these factories need to get the cogs turning so we can move forward. Social distancing is clunky, inefficient, and a stop gap to getting this Covid thing over and done with. 

Come on? I would have got the PPE out to the shops by now? How difficult can it be?

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2 minutes ago, 201p said:

As a test if I walk into any shop this week, and they don't sell basic PPE (face mask, face shield), I know with a finger in the wind, that this stuff is still uber rare even after 2 months of the market saying to people - MAKE MORE OF ME.

I am not talking about buying it on ebay from a private seller who bought tons of this stuff, and they are trying to shift this stuff from their garage. I am taking about the new stock that we should be retooling up for, and making right now. A bunch of people still don't shop "online" and will refuse to - it needs to be on the shelves, accessible to all. For care workers, for police, for security guards, for shop workers, and everybody else, eventually.

It's fine for Dyson and Tesla to make ventilators - the government didn't ask for them. Ventilators are sexy. Face masks are not - but these factories need to get the cogs turning so we can move forward. Social distancing is clunky, inefficient, and a stop gap to getting this Covid thing over and done with. 

Come on? I would have got the PPE out to the shops by now? How difficult can it be?

Until it's really cheaply available, the misers amongst us will stay home.

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Just now, sarahbell said:

Until it's really cheaply available, the misers amongst us will stay home.

But that's the thing, it's not even available with a price tag. I'd thought they'd be on sale for maybe £5 for five, which is expensive, but we have to start from somewhere.

If I worked for a security firm that couldn't supply them, then I would use my own if allowed to. But right now, there isn't even the possibility of acquiring them easily.

I have seen one security guard in Sainsbury's wear a mask, but that is more of an exception than the rule.

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17 minutes ago, Andersen said:

Police are in a similar situation. Not wearing masks (' cause it makes them look scary and might frighten the public!), spending their time at work car-sharing with criminals and colleagues  (social distancing impossible), and questioning as many dubious characters as they can (ie folk ignoring solical distancing advice, so higher risk of infection).

We need to furlough the police to protect the public ??

Had a conversation with a neighbor in the police recently.  They are now travelling with one in each car, so they can socially distance on the way (now need twice as many cars).  They are issued with 3 masks each a day to be used if they have to get close to a criminal.

It all falls apart as soon as they have to grapple with someone.

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Many of them work the night shift so don't see much sunlight anyway? I would expect they've got pretty poor hygiene routines as well. Couple of toilet trips, midnight wank, and finger food throughout the night (not a bar of soap in sight for 8 hours)

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11 hours ago, 201p said:

I don't think security guards are short of work, they appear to be outside every large supermarket, and even the smaller ones right now, and for shops that don't normally have one.

But they don't have any PPE such as masks or face guards, and they probably have a few hundred people walk past them every shift. 

My mates r busy at supermarkets 

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On 12/05/2020 at 08:25, sarahbell said:

Never mind the nurses or care home staff .. security guards at most risk of dying.

Now confirmed by ONS 

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1 minute ago, Andersen said:

Now confirmed by ONS 

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9.9 per 100,000 average death rate would be... ah yes, 0.0099%. And more men die than women, so the real population average is even lower.

What a farce.

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On 12/05/2020 at 09:35, Hopeful said:

What's the average BMI, ethnicity and Vit D level of a security guard ?

Just had a thought

Should measure the Vit D level, BMI and ethnicity of every Covid19 mortality

 

And age. Most of the ones I've seen in my life were coffin-dodgers.

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On 12/05/2020 at 08:25, sarahbell said:

Never mind the nurses or care home staff .. security guards at most risk of dying.

You mean that you don't need to be within 2m of an infected person for 15 minutes to catch this thing?

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