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Frank Hovis

Scratchcards - Confess your Sins of Waste

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Way back in the 90s when they first came out I bought two.

I won a tenner! I bought ten.

I won nothing and felt daft for having blown a tenner.  I have not bought one since; my net expenditure being £2 for the original two.

 

Why I was prompted to post this was to pass on a conversation my parents had with the assistant at the convenience store where they buy their daily paper whilst out for a walk.

The shop had put up a sign saying "no scratchards" and they asked why.

Scratchcards were the bggest source of footfall, though not income, in the shop.  Some customers would come in literally five times a day to buy a scratchcard.

Just imagine what sort of person makes five separate trips to a convenience store in a single day to buy a scratchcard each time.

 

I was in a lottery syndicate at work, though it only bought a few tickets on multiple rollovers so cost only about £20 a year, and whoever was going to the shop bought the tickets.  One time I was going it was two Euro, two Lotto so I was given a tenner and suggested I spend the remaining pound on a scratchcard.  I said "Why don't I just throw that pound straight out of the window now to save the bother?".

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8 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

Some customers would come in literally five times a day to buy a scratchcard.

Just imagine what sort of person makes five separate trips to a convenience store in a single day to buy a scratchcard each time.

Probably the only exercise those people get so it's a good incentive to be marginally less of a fat fuck! 

Scratchcards, like the lottery, seem to be a good way to get the under and working classes to fund middle class hobbies like the opera. 

Never bought one. 

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I recall reading somewhere that this is a particular problem in the Island.

I can well believe it. In my local petrol/convenience store, it is actually very unusual if the person in front of me doesn't buy a scratchcard.

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Just now, spunko said:

Gambling addiciton is never discussed in everyday life but is rife. Particularly the lottery and scratchards. Fixed odds fruit machines get a lot of the negative press, but that's about it.

The number of times I've been behind someone in a queue who has bought scratchcards, it must be 1 in 20 customers. I've had little old ladies cash in their winnings (£10) then blow it all on 10 new scratchcards and scratch them off as soon as they get outside the shop. Some even do it at the till while waiting for a receipt.

I find it really quite strange and hard to understand, never have bought one, never will. Surely the odds are fixed and known. Maybe if they printed them on the scratchcard, similar to the way they are forced to print warnings on cigarette packets, that'd make a difference. Probably not though --  again confirms what I have realised about coronavirus and the chances of getting it / dying from it: most people do not understand odds.

If I were PM I'd ban them all.

When I was at school I remember the Spanish teacher telling us about El Gordo, the Spanish lottery that was a huge deal.  They had choirboys singing the mumbers and a huge audience for the big draw.

It was noted that most countries, including the UK, had laws to stop this form of national gambling because it was felt to be a bad things that gave people false hope.  I think it was under John Major that the door to false hope was swung wide and the National Lottery began.

As I noted on the lottery thread I only buy on multiple rollovers / "got to go" so maybe £40 a year.  Over the last four years I think I'm actually marginally up.

I would also ban scratchards.  It's the instant nature of them that gives the dopamine rush followed by the low that craves another dopamine rush.  That's why those people are going five times a day.  Cobbling together their pennies for just one more disappointment, and then another an hour later, and then another.

I would ban them together with online gambling; it's the "instant win" to which I object owing to the ability to keep repeating the gamble as with fixed odds machines.

Lottery tickets or placing bets in bookies I see as being less harmful because you only have so many draws and so many horse races a week and you have to wait for them each to happen so building in a time delay rather than having the instant satisfaction that leaves you wanting another instant hit.

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8 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

Way back in the 90s when they first came out I bought two.

I won a tenner! I bought ten.

I won nothing and felt daft for having blown a tenner.  I have not bought one since; my net expenditure being £2 for the original two.

 

Why I was prompted to post this was to pass on a conversation my parents had with the assistant at the convenience store where they buy their daily paper whilst out for a walk.

The shop had put up a sign saying "no scratchards" and they asked why.

Scratchcards were the bggest source of footfall, though not income, in the shop.  Some customers would come in literally five times a day to buy a scratchcard.

Just imagine what sort of person makes five separate trips to a convenience store in a single day to buy a scratchcard each time.

 

I was in a lottery syndicate at work, though it only bought a few tickets on multiple rollovers so cost only about £20 a year, and whoever was going to the shop bought the tickets.  One time I was going it was two Euro, two Lotto so I was given a tenner and suggested I spend the remaining pound on a scratchcard.  I said "Why don't I just throw that pound straight out of the window now to save the bother?".

Viz again!

UKGOV really should bin all these high paid HE researchers and just buy Viz.

If they are taking the piss out of it then it's very real.

Tax credits DLA -

Foul-Mouthed Super-Obese Mobility Scooter Woman – a lazy, benefit-dependent woman who blames her total lack of work ethic on her morbid obesity; which requires her to use a mobility scooter.

Adam Johnson n various false rape claims - Fat Slags.

Current episode has 8 ace being stopped going to shops by Mrs 8ace. Who promptly comes out of of Mr Patels with a load of Scratchcards instead of food.

It's why you get the err special demographic who win the lottery rather than dome nice, middle class people. People with jobs, spending their own money rarely play the lottery. By that I mean the odd ticket rather than £20/week, every week.

I'd love to see the postcodes of the 100 shops selling scratchies.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Wight Flight said:

I recall reading somewhere that this is a particular problem in the Island.

I can well believe it. In my local petrol/convenience store, it is actually very unusual if the person in front of me doesn't buy a scratchcard.

Wow.  I very rarely see it happen bar at the actual lottery till in a supermarket.

At a Tesco version of this, as I waited to expend my £2, there was a middle aged couple in scruffy unwashed clothing who could have passed for homeless working the poor girl behind the counter down a long list of particular scratchards they wanted.  They easily spent £40; maybe more.

Some people need to be protected from themselves.

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6 minutes ago, Wight Flight said:

I recall reading somewhere that this is a particular problem in the Island.

I can well believe it. In my local petrol/convenience store, it is actually very unusual if the person in front of me doesn't buy a scratchcard.

It just could be their ticket of of that hell-hole?

You all know I disapprove of gambling. I'm not a muslim.

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11 minutes ago, spunko said:

Gambling addiciton is never discussed in everyday life but is rife. Particularly the lottery and scratchards. Fixed odds fruit machines get a lot of the negative press, but that's about it.

The number of times I've been behind someone in a queue who has bought scratchcards, it must be 1 in 20 customers. I've had little old ladies cash in their winnings (£10) then blow it all on 10 new scratchcards and scratch them off as soon as they get outside the shop. Some even do it at the till while waiting for a receipt.

I find it really quite strange and hard to understand, never have bought one, never will. Surely the odds are fixed and known. Maybe if they printed them on the scratchcard, similar to the way they are forced to print warnings on cigarette packets, that'd make a difference. Probably not though --  again confirms what I have realised about coronavirus and the chances of getting it / dying from it: most people do not understand odds.

If I were PM I'd ban them all.

A mate still foes the horses in the ye olde days - racing post, socialise with horse place, then pop into bookies for a £5 bet 2 or 3 times. He doesn't drink and it is more hobby n social than the kids school uniform. Gets him out of the office.

I've met up with him, as its easiest to catch him in town.

Depending in where he is, his fellow gamblers are

Chinese (theres only 1fucking takeaway in town ffs) there are 2 or 3 Chinese in there all the time.

Local drug dealer washing a few 1000s two times a week.

EEers.

We stopped off in Malton once, to have a bet. Theres a large pig processing plant which is 99% EE now. He went to a couple of bookies. Fuck, standing room only. Felt like when the USSR collapsed.

 

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7 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

Wow.  I very rarely see it happen bar at the actual lottery till in a supermarket.

At a Tesco version of this, as I waited to expend my £2, there was a middle aged couple in scruffy unwashed clothing who could have passed for homeless working the poor girl behind the counter down a long list of particular scratchards they wanted.  They easily spent £40; maybe more.

Some people need to be protected from themselves.

Yes, seen that far too often. They normally buy a packet of fags as well (There are far more smokers here than I ever saw in Surrey)

I think it is also one of the very few ways you can still gamble with a credit card.

That needs changing.

Edited by Wight Flight

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4 minutes ago, spygirl said:

EEers.

We stopped off in Malton once, to have a bet. Theres a large pig processing plant which is 99% EE now. He went to a couple of bookies. Fuck, standing room only. Felt like when the USSR collapsed.

Go for a holiday in Estonia. Make sure you wear a Gordon Brown t-shirt.

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I buy a few lottery tickets per week - and argue to myself that I do not smoke or drink so this is my bit of fun.

But the drink thing has gone by the way since the Chinese virus.

I buy lots of durex that never get used. One day I may start a condom museum - there is at least one already in the world.

Next time you hear of fem nazis demanding free tampons stand up for men and demand that men are given free condoms. I have never, my entire life, met a woman who has bought one, or admitted to doing so, but they seem utterly disgusted if a man does not have one. I am convinced that the entire female population in the West lives under the impression that all men carry condoms at all times.

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24 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

When I was at school I remember the Spanish teacher telling us about El Gordo, the Spanish lottery that was a huge deal.  They had choirboys singing the mumbers and a huge audience for the big draw.

It was noted that most countries, including the UK, had laws to stop this form of national gambling because it was felt to be a bad things that gave people false hope.  I think it was under John Major that the door to false hope was swung wide and the National Lottery began.

As I noted on the lottery thread I only buy on multiple rollovers / "got to go" so maybe £40 a year.  Over the last four years I think I'm actually marginally up.

I would also ban scratchards.  It's the instant nature of them that gives the dopamine rush followed by the low that craves another dopamine rush.  That's why those people are going five times a day.  Cobbling together their pennies for just one more disappointment, and then another an hour later, and then another.

I would ban them together with online gambling; it's the "instant win" to which I object owing to the ability to keep repeating the gamble as with fixed odds machines.

Lottery tickets or placing bets in bookies I see as being less harmful because you only have so many draws and so many horse races a week and you have to wait for them each to happen so building in a time delay rather than having the instant satisfaction that leaves you wanting another instant hit.

Horses work as each race needs to be set up n run, putting 30 mins between each race.

Having a bar means you miss some races.

I've only been racing a few times. Did not enjoy it - too much dressing up for me.

Edited by spygirl

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4 minutes ago, spygirl said:

I've only been racing a few times. Did not enjoy it - too much dressing up for me.

Jockeys do dress strange.

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Just now, spygirl said:

Not as strange as the wimmin, who were doing a stripper/ wedding mix.

It's like a science fiction convention.

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17 minutes ago, Wight Flight said:

But I hate DIY.

You don't need a condom if you're Doing It Yourself. Only with a partner.

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18 minutes ago, JoeDavola said:

Never heard of having a "posh wank"?

 

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“What’s interesting about this massive increase in demand is that we are also seeing a changing demographic which is very positive for the sex doll industry and speaks to changing attitudes at home.

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Even the dolls expect the man to buy the condoms.

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1 minute ago, The Masked Tulip said:

 

COVID Sparks Sexbot "Revolution" As People Ditch Tinder

"Couples who have been quarantined together seem to be much more open to trying something new after possibly experimenting more during the lockdown.

"We are also seeing more single men and women placing orders for the first time; we think this is because they view solo play as a safer alternative to dating apps like Tinder right now.

“What’s interesting about this massive increase in demand is that we are also seeing a changing demographic which is very positive for the sex doll industry and speaks to changing attitudes at home.

"The traditional stereotype of loners choosing sex dolls as a last resort is totally inaccurate.

"What we are seeing now is doll use is going mainstream with men and women both enthusiastic about bringing a doll into their bedroom," he said.

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/covid-sparks-sexbot-revolution-people-ditch-tinder

 

Even the dolls expect the man to buy the condoms.

I'd better buy a sex doll now before they start getting fat....

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