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Remember when parents were fined for taking their kids out of school for just a few days? As if even a missed day would impact their education permanently and the kid would be disadvantaged for life. 

Every time I say that it's no different to flu in its effects people either have a moment of realisation or cough out "But there's no vaccine." Well given that most people I know don't bother wit

This must be the biggest mass panic I can think of in my lifetime. I'm not seeing handcarts of dead bodies, or makeshift crematoriums. Some people I know got a bit ill, but are better now. P

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2 minutes ago, MrPin said:

This must be the biggest mass panic I can think of in my lifetime. I'm not seeing handcarts of dead bodies, or makeshift crematoriums.

Some people I know got a bit ill, but are better now.

People are still moaning that schools should not be opened.

It's like a spoof from Brass Eye.

It's almost as if they lied to us. Obviously it can't be that so we'll just have to keep on wondering why.

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2 minutes ago, MrPin said:

This must be the biggest mass panic I can think of in my lifetime. I'm not seeing handcarts of dead bodies, or makeshift crematoriums.

Some people I know got a bit ill, but are better now.

People are still moaning that schools should not be opened.

It's like a spoof from Brass Eye.

I can't believe they've just given up on education. What must the education system have cost, nationally? Now it's just an expensive white elephant. Just something we don't do any more, as a nation. Doesn't matter. Not a priority. Not important.

Meanwhile pensioners were playing bowls in the park today.

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1 minute ago, Funn3r said:

It's almost as if they lied to us. Obviously it can't be that so we'll just have to keep on wondering why.

It's always been at the back of my mind, that there is more important news out there, to be hidden.

1 minute ago, eight said:

Meanwhile pensioners were playing bowls in the park today.

Absolute bastards. I hope their balls were 2 metres apart.

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Just now, MrPin said:

It's always been at the back of my mind, that there is more important news out there, to be hidden.

Aha may I make so bold as to direct Sir to the Qanon thread step this way please

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Just now, Funn3r said:

Aha may I make so bold as to direct Sir to the Qanon thread step this way please

Rumours, with a mere hint of truth Sir. American politics is spectacularly bent. To believe it all takes more faith than I have.

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1 minute ago, Frank Hovis said:

It has been an absolutely disgraceful overreaction and the media collusion with it has been shameful.

Yes, but it is not just this country.

If only I believed in conspiracies more, I'd think the Nargles were behind it.

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1 minute ago, onlyme said:

There were a few basic things that needed to be known at the very earliest opportunity in order to make the right decisions- the speed of that this virus could be spread and the way it is spread, the mortality rate across age groups and the hospitalisation rate and initially the best medications/ treatment programmes.

Nearly all of the above are still being argued about and unclear nearly 6 months in.

It is staggering.

Couldn't agree more. Even the symptoms are still being argued over, FFS. 

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11 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

Every time I say that it's no different to flu in its effects people either have a moment of realisation or cough out "But there's no vaccine."

Well given that most people I know don't bother with having the annual flu vaccine because they are unconcerned I fail to see why this is deemed to be a killer argument.

Bad flu season (76 / 77, 2017 / 18) 60,000 deaths.

WuFlu 50,000.

 

Granted that it's like a bad flu rather than a mild one but the most response there ever is to a bad flu is the NHS running lots of adverts for people to be inoculated.

Nobody ever considered that the correct response to a bad flu would be to start dropping barrel bombs onto the economy.

It has been an absolutely disgraceful overreaction and the media collusion with it has been shameful.

My fat doctor friend would shoot you down in flames for that Frank.

Not with any logic, just with a "people should not comment on things they aren't qualified to comment on" type statement.

Now keep yer trap shut and don't forget to clap tonight.

;)

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1 minute ago, JoeDavola said:

My fat doctor friend would shoot you down in flames for that Frank.

Not with any logic, just with a "people should not comment on things they aren't qualified to comment on" type statement.

Now keep yer trap shut and don't forget to clap tonight.

;)

It's funny how certain professions have that view.

As a finance person a lot of my job has comprised explaining finance, particularly the debt finance markets, to non-finance directors in order for them to arrive at an informed decision. I like people to understand what I do rather than their thinking it a "dark art" closed to outsiders like a medieval guild.

The only time I have encountered finance people that think their sector requires unique skills and is therefore barred to outsiders is unsurprisingly NHS finance.

Councils, quangos, housing associations are all happy to recruit accountants with experience in other sectors but not the NHS finance departments because they are up their own arse twats.

I mean total saints and we must all clap them tonight.

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6 minutes ago, The Idiocrat said:

Remember when parents were fined for taking their kids out of school for just a few days? As if even a missed day would impact their education permanently and the kid would be disadvantaged for life. And yet now they can miss months and months when it suits the authorities and teachers.

If my daughter doesn't go back to school until September, which now seems certain, that will be longer from now, than we are now from when the schools first closed. In other words, they are not even halfway through this enforced recess.

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18 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

It's funny how certain professions have that view.

As a finance person a lot of my job has comprised explaining finance, particularly the debt finance markets, to non-finance directors in order for them to arrive at an informed decision. I like people to understand what I do rather than their thinking it a "dark art" closed to outsiders like a medieval guild.

The only time I have encountered finance people that think their sector requires unique skills and is therefore barred to outsiders is unsurprisingly NHS finance.

Councils, quangos, housing associations are all happy to recruit accountants with experience in other sectors but not the NHS finance departments because they are up their own arse twats.

I mean total saints and we must all clap them tonight.

I think there's some level of ego investment or something in their omnipotence, maybe because of the barrier to entry (cost and time wise) to the profession (my doctor friend is American and it costs a fortune to qualify there).

There's also always been an idea that doctors are Gods of sorts, even more so than actual bleeding edge research engineers/scientists that are actually discovering new things for some reason.

 

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1 hour ago, snaga said:

this is what pisses me off most atm, my two young boys being least at risk can't play in the children's park as the council have closed it, but the most vulnerable are able to go to their garden centers, play golf, play bowls, go fishing,  sit on a park bench, and now the government is prioritizing opening shops for them too.

In fact I can't recall a single question by the media in any of these conferences about children other than should they keep schools closed, presumably to protect teachers?

open children's parks & restart children's outdoor sport activities before opening the god damn shops!

I know one or two old people i.e around 80, who feel very left out of the decision making and almost like they are watching from the sidelines.  Then I'm going to come out and say the ones closer to 60 are a bit more entitled and involved (clearly more active closer to working age too).  Funny that they are the big demographic that vote, have financial resources often from years of house price inflation not just often golden employment terms and pensions.  The government here seems a bit younger than some in the US but there still trying to please this demographic.  The US wtf the raft of potential presidents are geriatric - even Trumpy getting on but sanders and Biden pushing 80 years wth?

 

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40 minutes ago, eight said:

If my daughter doesn't go back to school until September, which now seems certain, that will be longer from now, than we are now from when the schools first closed. In other words, they are not even halfway through this enforced recess.

Unless something changes then they'll need more classroom space and more teachers to do it social distancing. So what's the answer?  

 

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35 minutes ago, JoeDavola said:

I think there's some level of ego investment or something in their omnipotence, maybe because of the barrier to entry (cost and time wise) to the profession (my doctor friend is American and it costs a fortune to qualify there).

There's also always been an idea that doctors are Gods of sorts, even more so than actual bleeding edge research engineers/scientists that are actually discovering new things for some reason.

 

Iv'e noticed a lot of that too with comments and such continually putting down a researcher or scientist who is NOT AN MD.  Like that is the holy grail or something - especially ridiculous when it comes to GP's etc who by definition need to be general and know a little about a lot as opposed to some specialist.  I think a lot can be said for having erudition across fields but don't think the common refrain "not an MD" is applicable most of the time  

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4 minutes ago, sarahbell said:

Unless something changes then they'll need more classroom space and more teachers to do it social distancing. So what's the answer?  

 

They will also have to drop the trendy teaching methods and go back to chalk and talk. xD  the end of the teachers being class clown and all round entertainer. xD

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45 minutes ago, JoeDavola said:

I think there's some level of ego investment or something in their omnipotence, maybe because of the barrier to entry (cost and time wise) to the profession (my doctor friend is American and it costs a fortune to qualify there).

There's also always been an idea that doctors are Gods of sorts, even more so than actual bleeding edge research engineers/scientists that are actually discovering new things for some reason.

 

Medical DRs are mere technicians, and bad ones, as sackings are few n far between.

Proper computer diagnosis wiil do for the medical profession what computers did for accountancy.

 

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2 hours ago, MrPin said:

This must be the biggest mass panic I can think of in my lifetime. I'm not seeing handcarts of dead bodies, or makeshift crematoriums.

Some people I know got a bit ill, but are better now.

People are still moaning that schools should not be opened.

It's like a spoof from Brass Eye.

I know 2 dead.  3 ill and recovered.  

My wife has nurse friends and they said it was carnage.

You view depends on what you experienced  guess.

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