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The future reach of smart technology


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The insidious march towards ever smarter smart technology becoming ever faster...If the likes of Alexa and OK Google weren't enough... 

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/apple-glass-patent-reveals-killer-feature-for-mass-appeal

Get them adopted first, and create mass market appeal...then start bolting on "extras" such as recordable cameras and built in microphones.....Welcome to the world of ever spreading mass surveillance..

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5 minutes ago, Dave Beans said:

The insidious march towards ever smarter smart technology becoming ever faster...If the likes of Alexa and OK Google weren't enough... 

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/apple-glass-patent-reveals-killer-feature-for-mass-appeal

Get them adopted first, and create mass market appeal...then start bolting on "extras" such as recordable cameras and built in microphones.....Welcome to the world of ever spreading mass surveillance..

Resistance is futile.

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I was very resistant to getting Alexa in our house but was given one as a present and now find it incredibly useful. The kids ask loads of questions for their homework like spelling and facts. We set timers and reminders and it's great for music, we listen to more music than we used to. I'm of the opinion now, that if I don't like the intrusive element I can unplug it. We used to have one in the bedroom but as my wife's name is Alexa, she kept interrupting and putting me off my rhythm. 

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I have some Google Homes 

They are supposed to not listen until you speak the OK Google trigger word, but they do. 

"Cocaine Poodle" wakes it right up for example. 

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At risk of sounding like @The XYY Man  a lot of new consumer tech is nice but really not all that necessary to live a good life and from a cynical point of view is nudging the herd into a new more controlled and dependent world. 

Klaus Schwab founder of the World Economic Forum and author of the 'stakeholder capitalism' concept, which sounds a lot like global corporate fascism, is worth a look to get some idea of where this is headed. Basically they are claiming that the world needs more social and economic governance to repair the social and economic mess governments have just created, with a tech / smart and 'green' theme.

It really is an unconvincing grab for power, tired old ideas they have been pushing for for years like carbon tax economy, regulation through fake sustainability rules and increasing surveillance to 'protect' the population. Absolutely full of false sincerity bollocks sjw language and theory that no one believes, they really need to fuck off with this, messing with systems in crucial areas like power, agriculture and transport that already work, to justify the existence of their parasitic businesses and governance is going to create disaster. I suspect the details of the Boris / Sunak great economic miracle we are soon going to be told about will be copied from this:

https://soundcloud.com/world-economic-forum/the-great-reset

The contrary view (bitchute but not mentalist):

https://www.bitchute.com/video/K6mt8tVNMHsn/

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7 hours ago, Dave Beans said:

The insidious march towards ever smarter smart technology becoming ever faster...If the likes of Alexa and OK Google weren't enough... 

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/apple-glass-patent-reveals-killer-feature-for-mass-appeal

Get them adopted first, and create mass market appeal...then start bolting on "extras" such as recordable cameras and built in microphones.....Welcome to the world of ever spreading mass surveillance..

I generally agree but I admit I quite like the logic in the idea of adjusting the picture to fit your eyes rather than the other way around. :ph34r:

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Well that Tom's page was difficult to get through.  Videos kept popping up, ads and notifications everywhere.  I know it's popular and probably reached a point where they can get away with but I'm just fuck it with your overload ads.  On the phone which could have something to do with but glad I've got that off my chest first 😅

Well the whole notion of recordable eyewear is indeed a bit 1984.  Listening in to conversations on your Alexa is one thing but when you toaster has the same abilities it does feel a bit strange.  With the eyewear thing all I can think of is that in public everything everywhere will be monitored and recorded 99% of the time.  No escaping, doesn't matter if you don't want to be filmed you'll just be walking down the street or going into a shop and you will be monitored by  dozens of different cameras.

Really cut to the chase and a few years down the road the headset will be redundant... Simply interfacing straight into your visual cortex everything will be recorded.

The large companies like Google or Apple will have such massive access to every little nuance out there and there clever little bots edging closer and closer things like mind reading and pre crime.  Basically they will become way way too powerful (already are really) where at a point will be taken over by public bodies or at least spun off into a public private enterprise.  Or defanged to some degree where all the data is at the disposal of the world government and we are basically living the Orwellian dream.

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2 minutes ago, Dogtania said:

Well that Tom's page was difficult to get through.  Videos kept popping up, ads and notifications everywhere.  I know it's popular and probably reached a point where they can get away with but I'm just fuck it with your overload ads.  On the phone which could have something to do with but glad I've got that off my chest first 😅

Well the whole notion of recordable eyewear is indeed a bit 1984.  Listening in to conversations on your Alexa is one thing but when you toaster has the same abilities it does feel a bit strange.  With the eyewear thing all I can think of is that in public everything everywhere will be monitored and recorded 99% of the time.  No escaping, doesn't matter if you don't want to be filmed you'll just be walking down the street or going into a shop and you will be monitored by  dozens of different cameras.

Really cut to the chase and a few years down the road the headset will be redundant... Simply interfacing straight into your visual cortex everything will be recorded.

The large companies like Google or Apple will have such massive access to every little nuance out there and there clever little bots edging closer and closer things like mind reading and pre crime.  Basically they will become way way too powerful (already are really) where at a point will be taken over by public bodies or at least spun off into a public private enterprise.  Or defanged to some degree where all the data is at the disposal of the world government and we are basically living the Orwellian dream.

Google did have a try with Google Glass, back in 2013, but it ended up being banned in bars, casinos & cinemas.  My main hope is that society will reject such an idea...

https://www.wired.com/story/google-glass-reasonable-expectation-of-privacy/

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2 minutes ago, Dave Beans said:

Google did have a try with Google Glass, back in 2013, but it ended up being banned in bars, casinos & cinemas.  My main hope is that society will reject such an idea...

https://www.wired.com/story/google-glass-reasonable-expectation-of-privacy/

Definitely I hope so too but just see the erosion of resistance over time in the future.  The way we are going privacy won't be a thing in the future city.  Privacy on a side note may be a modern construct...ie most of history you lived in close contact with your tribe or family then knowing everything.  Then even more recently in the Victorian days and slum buildings with families of 10 living in one bedroom.  Maybe the "individual" didn't really exist in such a way or was a high brow thing only enjoyed by a very few.

Back of tangent though ..I really can see this surveillance everywhere creeping up.  Maybe initially it will be closely guarded where only a few places will allow or the laws very strict on recording etc.  But IMO the trend is towards more acceptance.  Then the younger generations who already have most of their lives online from birth with photos on FB and growing up with tiktok YouTube and the like being totally pervasive and normal.  That doesn't inspire munch confidence that these glasses will be ruled against.  Definitely 2013 too early, and probably today but the trend is going in that direction. Hopefully I'm mistaken.

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1 minute ago, Dogtania said:

Definitely I hope so too but just see the erosion of resistance over time in the future.  The way we are going privacy won't be a thing in the future city.  Privacy on a side note may be a modern construct...ie most of history you lived in close contact with your tribe or family then knowing everything.  Then even more recently in the Victorian days and slum buildings with families of 10 living in one bedroom.  Maybe the "individual" didn't really exist in such a way or was a high brow thing only enjoyed by a very few.

Back of tangent though ..I really can see this surveillance everywhere creeping up.  Maybe initially it will be closely guarded where only a few places will allow or the laws very strict on recording etc.  But IMO the trend is towards more acceptance.  Then the younger generations who already have most of their lives online from birth with photos on FB and growing up with tiktok YouTube and the like being totally pervasive and normal.  That doesn't inspire munch confidence that these glasses will be ruled against.  Definitely 2013 too early, and probably today but the trend is going in that direction. Hopefully I'm mistaken.

Taking it with a large pinch of salt, but Zuckerberg says that the future of Facebook, is small scale, more private groups...

https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/30/18524188/facebook-f8-keynote-mark-zuckerberg-privacy-future-2019

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2 minutes ago, Dave Beans said:

Taking it with a large pinch of salt, but Zuckerberg says that the future of Facebook, is small scale, more private groups...

https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/30/18524188/facebook-f8-keynote-mark-zuckerberg-privacy-future-2019

Thanks, that's interesting.  Maybe he sees the trend and trying to keep ahead.  Whilst being a bit cynical I also see a case where a lot of people may be looking for more privacy in the future.  It may be only a smaller group but I think it is a group that isn't given a lot of options.  People who may be quite into tech can find some ways (if it's even possible) but a larger group that aren't as tech savvy may want privacy but options aren't out there.

There is a small Scottish company/foundation called maidsafe network that has been trying to build a new internet for something like a decade.  I don't quite know why it's taking so long and they are quite idealistic about a free open internet with no gate keepers which I'm unsure about.  Anyway who knows if it will ever come to anything but increasingly I'm seeing it's appeal and relevance being there for adoption. 

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6 hours ago, Dogtania said:

Thanks, that's interesting.  Maybe he sees the trend and trying to keep ahead.  Whilst being a bit cynical I also see a case where a lot of people may be looking for more privacy in the future.  It may be only a smaller group but I think it is a group that isn't given a lot of options.  People who may be quite into tech can find some ways (if it's even possible) but a larger group that aren't as tech savvy may want privacy but options aren't out there.

There is a small Scottish company/foundation called maidsafe network that has been trying to build a new internet for something like a decade.  I don't quite know why it's taking so long and they are quite idealistic about a free open internet with no gate keepers which I'm unsure about.  Anyway who knows if it will ever come to anything but increasingly I'm seeing it's appeal and relevance being there for adoption. 

There might also be an element of the volunteer ethos that's been around for years in the linux world. I'm no tech expert but will happily find half a day for showing friends and relatives how to back up their data and installing linux on their computers and getting their obscure 15 year old printers to work. Most seem happy with the change because linux makes their computers faster and more reliable. Recently been having a go at custom roms on android phones and so far as I can tell Lineageos has reached the same user friendly level many linux distros have achieved - for the average user that can live without google play / services getting rid of google and increasing privacy has the added benefits of phones being less prone to crashing, much longer battery life and less cluttered ui. I would definitely be happy to pay for a 'degoogled' privacy respecting phone without the intrusive biometric stuff like fingerprint readers, selfie cameras and heart rate monitor, especially if getting rid of the guff made it smaller, more reliable and longer lasting.

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3 hours ago, Caravan Monster said:

Most seem happy with the change because linux makes their computers faster and more reliable.

Come on now. I've done my share of calling Microsoft "Micro$oft" and all the other things but Windows 10 is much easier for a non-tech to use than any flavour of Linux. This isn't the days of Windows 95 endless BSOD we're talking about.

I've been doing unixes for 40 years and I spent all week recently trying to get a Fedora box to talk to a Realtek USB wifi adapter. I failed.

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34 minutes ago, Funn3r said:

Come on now. I've done my share of calling Microsoft "Micro$oft" and all the other things but Windows 10 is much easier for a non-tech to use than any flavour of Linux. This isn't the days of Windows 95 endless BSOD we're talking about.

I've been doing unixes for 40 years and I spent all week recently trying to get a Fedora box to talk to a Realtek USB wifi adapter. I failed.

Must admit I've not tried any Red Hat based ones for a long time, but Debian and those based on it have been mega reliable and quite user friendly for at least 5 years now. I'm starting to forget things about Debian because I never have to fix anything anymore, it just sits on my elderly desktop and works. Maybe it's just luck but never had any trouble with ancillaries and have used linux usb live on windows machines to check scanners and printers and suchlike are functioning when they don't work on windows 10. 

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