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Great Guy

When did Labour turn shit?

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I happened to be reading about Keir Hardie (founder of Labour Party). He had this to say about immigration..

 

"Keir Hardie, in his evidence to the 1899 House of Commons Select Committee on emigration and immigration, argued that the Scots resented immigrants greatly and that they would want a total immigration ban. When it was pointed out to him that more people left Scotland than entered it, he replied, "It would be much better for Scotland if those 1,500 were compelled to remain there and let the foreigners be kept out... Dr Johnsonsaid God made Scotland for Scotchmen, and I would keep it so." According to Hardie, the Lithuanian migrant workers in the mining industry had "filthy habits", they lived off "garlic and oil", and they were carriers of "the Black Death".[24]""

 

It's like he was an early member of dosbods. When did Labour turn shit?

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37 minutes ago, Great Guy said:

I happened to be reading about Keir Hardie (founder of Labour Party). He had this to say about immigration..

 

"Keir Hardie, in his evidence to the 1899 House of Commons Select Committee on emigration and immigration, argued that the Scots resented immigrants greatly and that they would want a total immigration ban. When it was pointed out to him that more people left Scotland than entered it, he replied, "It would be much better for Scotland if those 1,500 were compelled to remain there and let the foreigners be kept out... Dr Johnsonsaid God made Scotland for Scotchmen, and I would keep it so." According to Hardie, the Lithuanian migrant workers in the mining industry had "filthy habits", they lived off "garlic and oil", and they were carriers of "the Black Death".[24]""

 

It's like he was an early member of dosbods. When did Labour turn shit?

 

Apparently he has memorials all over the place maybe even a statue or two - including a bust in Parliament.

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13 minutes ago, twocents said:

 

Apparently he has memorials all over the place maybe even a statue or two - including a bust in Parliament.

‘Hardie must fall’ kinda rolls off the tongue. Anyone here know someone in #BLM?

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54 minutes ago, Melchett said:

About 1992/3? Whenever it was that John Smith met his untimely demise.

Yes around that time. 

Before that they could probably still call the party Labour except their choice of leaders was becoming a bit extreme.

The change became very blatant when NuLabour got elected and they started their attack on the working person's beer and baccy which had been sacrosanct before.

Edited by twocents

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8 minutes ago, JohnThePessimist said:

‘Hardie must fall’ kinda rolls off the tongue. Anyone here know someone in #BLM?

It probably just needs someone from that group to insist on that and it would be done.

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1 hour ago, Melchett said:

About 1992/3? Whenever it was that John Smith met his untimely demise.

Yes, he had a sensible head, and could have been.

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Ben Tilett leader of the Dock Workers Union before the First World War, one of the founders of the TGWU and an early Labour MP had the party’s number. He memorably said

'If the Labour Party could select a King, he would be a feminist, a Temperance crank, a Nonconformist charlatan…an anti-sport, anti-jollity advocate, a teetotaller, as well as a general wet blanket.”

People like Tilett,whose working life started as an 8 year old labouring in a brick yard, were concerned about improving the pay and job security of ordinary workers. They have largely been forgotten by the party they helped to create..

 

Edited by Virgil Caine

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It goes back way further than that. They've been infiltrated for years.

Labour have always been a funny bunch, the firebrands and politicians amongst the cohort were usually looking to get ahead of their fellow worker, rather than help them. If that involved shitting on them well, whatever. 

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3 hours ago, assetrichcashpoor said:

I think it was in the 80s when they became pro EU.

Corbyn was anti EU but pro migrant, I couldn’t work that one out.

Never try and work out labour, they are pro working class until they arnt,

 They are the kind off retards who would say in the 80s that auf weidersehen pet showed how thatcher made hard working builders move overseas to find work when she should be making work for the lads here,

 And then welcome oversea workers here to take it away from them again, never try to get in there heads, they are morons

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2 minutes ago, haroldshand said:

"When did Labour turn shit"

When John Smith died

 

I'd put it here too.

Up until then they were harmlessly unelectable.

I hope they still are.

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If Labour hadn’t been shit long before John Smith died there wouldn’t have been the hunger to get elected which led to them accepting the Blair hijack of all their values.  So they’ve been shit all my life but until Blair at least represented the working class a bit. 

Smith was dangerous to the bankers who Thatcher had let loose, an electable man of principle at the head of a party that still justified the name Labour. So he had to go, one way or another, and departed conveniently. Luck, or something else? We’ll never know.  

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3 hours ago, TheBlueCat said:

Quick, where's @Carl Fimble?!

What, because (yet) another Jew (Manny Shinwell in this case) was pushing communism back in the day?

That’s hardly newsworthy- I think most of us already know who is behind communism, who was pushing it then, and who is pushing it now. 

Just in case anyone is in any doubt though :

“Some call it Marxism - I call it Judaism.”
Rabbi Stephen S. Wise, in the American Bulletin of May 15, 1935

“The revolution in Russia is a Jewish revolution”
The Maccabean (New York), Nov. 1905, p, 250

“Judaism is Marxism, communism”
Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews and an Answer to All Anti-Semites (New York: Committee for the Preservation of the Jews, 1939), p. 64

“The communist soul is the soul of Judaism.”
Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews and an Answer to All Anti-Semites (New York: Committee for the Preservation of the Jews, 1939), p. 143

“We Jews cannot be called upon to denounce Communism.”
The American Hebrew (New York), February 3, 1939, p. 11

“The picture which the Soviet Union presents today is one that should bring rejoicing to world Jewry.”
The Youngstown Jewish Times, Sept. 18, 1936, page 51

“It would be absurd to deny the intensity of the Jewish participation in the Russian revolutionary movement.”
Leon Dennen, in The Menorah Journal (New York) July-September 1932, p. 106

“That achievement - the Russian-Jewish revolution - destined to figure in history as the overshadowing result of World War, was largely the outcome of Jewish thinking, of Jewish discontent, of Jewish effort to reconstruct.”
The American Hebrew, September 10, 1920

“The Bolshevik Government of Russia is the key-stone of the arch of the proof of the Jewish conspiracy for radicalism and world-domination.”
William Hard, The Great Jewish Conspiracy (New York: American Jewish Book Company, 1920), p. 31

“The Jewish elements provide the driving forces for communism”
Dr. Oscar Levy, in George Pitt-Rivers, The World Significance of the Russian Revolution (Oxford, 1920), p. ix

“The Jews [have been] furnishing for the Bolsheviks the majority of their leaders”
The Jewish World (London), April 16, 1919, p. 11

“Russian Jews have taken a prominent part in the Bolshevist movement”
The American Hebrew (New York), November 18, 1927, p. 20

“Jewry has come to wield a considerable power in the Communist Party.”
Dr. Avrahm Yarmolinsky, in The Menorah Journal (New York), July 1928, p. 37

“The East-Side Jew [Trotsky] that Conquered Europe”
The liberator (New York), March 1920, pp. 26-27

“The real East Sider [New York Jew Trotsky] is at the head of things in Russia.”
M. L. Larkin, in The Public (New York), November 23, 1918, p. 1433

“It is not an accident that Judaism gave birth to Marxism, and it is not an accident that the Jews readily took up Marxism; all this is in perfect accord with the progress of Judaism and the Jews.”
Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews and an Answer to All Anti-Semites (New York: Committee for the Preservation of the Jews, 1939), p. 148

“Karl Marx, who came from an old family of rabbis and brilliant Talmudic scholars, was to point the path of victory for the proletariat.”
L. Rennap, Anti-Semitism and the Jewish Question (London, 1942), p. 31

“Among his [Karl Marx’s] ancestors were Rabbis and Talmudists, men of learning and keen intellect.”
Henry Wickham Steed, in The American Hebrew (New York), December 9, 1927, p. 206

“The peculiarly Jewish logic of his [Karl Marx’s] mind”
Henry Wickham Steed, in The American Hebrew (New York), December 9, 1927, p. 206

“Mr. Wickham Steed lays the rise of Bolshevism at the doors of Jewry.”
The Jewish Guardian (London), November 28, 1924, p. 4

“The Bolshevik Revolution has emancipated the Jews as individuals”
Dr. Avrahm Yarmolinsky, in The Menorah Journal (New York), July 1928, p. 33

“There are many Bolshevik leaders of Jewish extraction”
D. L. Sandelsan, in The Jewish Chronicle (London), February 20, 1920, p. 22

“There is no Jew who does not hope with all his heart that the Soviet Union will survive and be victorious”
Zionist Review (London: Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland), September 26, 1941, p. 7

“Communism and internationalism are in truth and in fact great virtues. Judaism may be justly proud of these virtues”
Harry Watan, A Program for the Jews and an Answer to All Anti-Semites (New York: Committee for the Preservation of the Jews, 1939), p. 80

“If the tide of history does not turn toward Communist internationalism … then the Jewish race is doomed.”
George Marlen, Stalin, Trotsky, or Lenin (New York, 1937), p. 414

“The [Jewish] Commissaries were formerly political exiles. They had been dreaming of revolution for years in their exile in Paris, in London, in New York, in Berlin, everywhere and anywhere. They saw in the Bolshevist Movement an opportunity of realizing the extreme ideas of Communism and internationalism to which their fate had compelled them.”
Dr. D. S. Pazmanik, in The Jewish Chronicle (London), September 5, 1919, p. 14

“The Jewish people will never forget that the Soviet Union was the first country - and as yet the only country in the world - in which anti-Semitism is a crime.”
Jewish Voice (New York: National Council of Jewish Communists), January 1942, p. 16

“Anti-Semitism was classed [by the Soviet Government] as counter-revolution and the severe punishments meted out for acts of anti-Semitism were the means by which the existing order protected its own safety”
The Congress Bulletin, (New York: American Jewish Congress), January 5, 1940, p. 2

“There is no official anti-Semitism in Russia; anti-Semitism in Russia is a crime against the State.”
Dr. Chalm Weizmann, The Jewish People and Palestine (London: Zionist Organization, 1939), p. 7

“Anti-Communism is anti-Semitism.”
Jewish Voice (New York: National Council of Jewish Communists), July-August 1941, p. 23

“The part which Jews play in the [Communist] Government of the country [Russia] does not appear to be declining”
Harry Sacher, in The Jewish Review (London), June-August 1932, p. 43

“The Jews have a right to subordinate to themselves the rest of mankind and to be the masters over the whole earth. This is the historic destiny of the Jews”
Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews and an Answer to All Anti-Semites (New York Committee for the Preservation of the Jews, 1939), pp. 99-100

“We Jews, we the destroyers, will remain the destroyers forever. Nothing that you will do, will meet our needs and demands. We will destroy because we need a world of our own.”
Maurice Samuel, You Gentiles, page 155

“The Russian intelligentsia . . . saw in the philosophy of Judaism the germs of Bolshevism - the struggle of ... Judaism versus Christianity.”
Leon Dennen, in The Menorah Journal (New York, July-September 1932, p. 105

“Soviet Russia has declared war on Christianity, and on those who profess this faith. In the Russian villages today Bolsheviks and Herbert H. Lehman . . . were called the ‘secret government of the United States’ and were linked with ‘world communism.’”
Dr. Louis Harap, in Jewish Life (New York), June 1951, p. 20
 

 

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