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2 minutes ago, Alex said:

Wives are found in unlikely places, certainly.

For all the PUA stuff, I've known far more women than men who can do the "It's just sex" thing without getting emotionally attached over time, so you may have a point. I sometimes think men are the clingy sex.

I think because there's probably more social barriers for women to fuck around. So women fucking everything that moves tend to be a bit more hard nosed. 

But I'd agree though. Friends (myself included when I was young single and care free) can't help but get attached to even the slightest bit of attention. 

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48 minutes ago, The Masked Tulip said:

This calls for an experiment. Off to the charity shop later for a rummage.

Totty in the charity shop?  Have I been missing out?  Not that I need charity but every little helps.  And tell us more about this "rummage" technique - work does it?

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1 minute ago, Harley said:

Totty in the charity shop?  Have I been missing out?  Not that I need charity but every little helps.

Crusty rolls technique but with flat caps and purses I believe. 

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8 minutes ago, Hopeful said:

 

Definitely,

Men are expendable - just a source of sperm

You don't find any does in a herd of dear running after the alpha male that has just been run out by his fitter successor

But a stag will defend his does to the death

Depends a bit on the species. Stags don’t kill the calves fathered by the previous stag so the does don’t give a shit and move on to new boss. 

In species where the incoming male is hostile to the young of the previous male, sometimes the female will help the current male defend the family a bit. But not for the sake of the male. 

The phrase “Woman, know your place!” really should be “Man, know your place!” At least as far as affections are concerned! 

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1 minute ago, swiss_democracy_for_all said:

Depends a bit on the species. Stags don’t kill the calves fathered by the previous stag so the does don’t give a shit and move on to new boss. 

In species where the incoming male is hostile to the young of the previous male, sometimes the female will help the current male defend the family a bit. But not for the sake of the male. 

The phrase “Woman, know your place!” really should be “Man, know your place!” At least as far as affections are concerned! 

As you say the loyalty is to the cubs, the lioness is protecting her huge investment as she can only have so many cubs and she'll lose one litter to the new male, so perhaps she'll not want the males to change unnecessarily. I'm not an expert on lions though xD

 

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8 hours ago, Turned Out Nice Again said:

It's not just me then ...

(Excellent summary, worth a listen at 2X speed as he's not a fast speaker)

TLDR;

If anybody wants to reply taking exception with his conclusions, don't be married and speak from personal recent experience on the dating scene.

Despite the clear (and perhaps valid) bitterness, he makes mostly fair points, I think, although his comment about 1-in-4 women being on antidepressants contradicts the idea that women are happy. I'm not convinced the majority of them are happy. They're stuck in the same fucked-up system as men, no more able to change their natural drives than men are.

Of all the reasons cited, I think technology is by far the most damaging in this respect. It's also the only thing that's changed in recent years, so it's a prime candidate. If anything's toxic, it's social media and online dating apps/sites.

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15 hours ago, Turned Out Nice Again said:

It's not just me then ...

(Excellent summary, worth a listen at 2X speed as he's not a fast speaker)

TLDR;

 

Fuck me the bloke who made that video is a miserable cunt, couldn't blame any woman who refused to date him. Even his voice! Depressing, negative, all the bad stuff of modern life without any of the good.

Just get on and enjoy life, socialise doing stuff you like and someone will come along. Run around after women and they'll behave like cats. 

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15 minutes ago, swiss_democracy_for_all said:

 

Fuck me the bloke who made that video is a miserable cunt, couldn't blame any woman who refused to date him. Even his voice! Depressing, negative, all the bad stuff of modern life without any of the good.

Just get on and enjoy life, socialise doing stuff you like and someone will come along. Run around after women and they'll behave like cats. 

MGTOW anger is a phase of red-pilling that some men go through. IMO it's not healthy if you stay in that phase for more than  few months. It's like Zen Buddhism in some ways; once you've mastered it you don't dwell on it, it just becomes a part of your life and not a subject to be examined or raked over. I think some MGTOW men get stuck in the anger phase because the next phase  - acceptance - means giving up all the illusions we've been taught all our lives.

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57 minutes ago, swiss_democracy_for_all said:

 

Fuck me the bloke who made that video is a miserable cunt, couldn't blame any woman who refused to date him. Even his voice! Depressing, negative, all the bad stuff of modern life without any of the good.

Just get on and enjoy life, socialise doing stuff you like and someone will come along. Run around after women and they'll behave like cats. 

Where's your dating blog Swissy? I'd like to compare notes. 🤔

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17 hours ago, Turned Out Nice Again said:

It's not just me then ...

(Excellent summary, worth a listen at 2X speed as he's not a fast speaker)

TLDR;

If anybody wants to reply taking exception with his conclusions, don't be married and speak from personal recent experience on the dating scene.

I think this guy has valid points. The biggest is probably skewed sex ratios in younger cohorts, further skewed by women on average dating older men. I'm presuming he is young. I think as far as young blokes go in Europe things got a whole lot tougher this decade. Doesn't affect me at 54 ( married anyway)...but cheers Angel for creating a serious social imbalance in parts of Europe, Malmo to name one, and ruining millions of men's lives.

 

 

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2 hours ago, swiss_democracy_for_all said:

 

Fuck me the bloke who made that video is a miserable cunt, couldn't blame any woman who refused to date him. Even his voice! Depressing, negative, all the bad stuff of modern life without any of the good.

Just get on and enjoy life, socialise doing stuff you like and someone will come along. Run around after women and they'll behave like cats. 

I agree to an extent, and your advice seems sound to me, but like that Atlantic article, this guy's talking specifically about the US. I do get the impression (anecdotally) that it's worse there for young men. Ground zero of the stupidity, so to speak. The UK and the rest of the world gets echoes of the effects, but perhaps not the full brunt.

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44 minutes ago, Turned Out Nice Again said:

Where's your dating blog Swissy? I'd like to compare notes. 🤔

:) Crazy wife wouldn't like it if I started one! As a large fit married man I'm probably still desirable to some women, at least the signs are there - might all be different if I was single again and lost the "sheen" of unavailability. But you know what, I doubt it, because exactly like my single mate, also 53, I just wouldn't care whether 99% of women wanted me or not. Call it arrogance, self-worth, good luck of having a good family, plus some experience of nasty females, whatever, the truth is I now don't GAF.  Just like him. And precisely because of that IMO, some of them want him, I guess the same would be true of me. Note - he still doesn't shag much, as he can't be arsed with the trouble it brings. (half the time it's a girlfriend of someone in pub or similar)

I'm absolutely sure if I was single and used Tinder or ran around trying to get dates, I'd have all the issues described in your (rather brilliantly entertaining) stories and miserably described by the bloke in the video. But I wouldn't be doing any of that. Futile and dispiriting.

Little anecdote :- In bar recently, watching live music, mate next to me on one side. Other side a woman, fancies herself a bit, tattoos and late 40s, reasonable appearance otherwise. Cat enters bar. As the little bastards always do, it tries to endear itself to me by jumping up on the bench seat next to me and cuddling up. I ignore it. Woman pipes up "You don't like cats much, I guess".  I give the cat a disdainful look - "No,"  Then she says "Nor women much either, I guess". Extremely cheeky IMO, and a bad idea as I'm a bit drunk and way stroppier than usual. I give her the cold blue-eyed stare and say "They have their uses" then return my attention to the music. Woman's face turns purple with rage, mate can barely stand up from drink/laughing.  We leave after finishing drinks before woman sics her mates onto us. Mate tells me off (while still giggling) for being excessively rude....

I'm not advocating being a rude drunk bastard, but I suspect if you reach a similar level of DGAF while remaining more polite than I was, the game will change.

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30 minutes ago, swiss_democracy_for_all said:

:) Crazy wife wouldn't like it if I started one! As a large fit married man I'm probably still desirable to some women, at least the signs are there - might all be different if I was single again and lost the "sheen" of unavailability. But you know what, I doubt it, because exactly like my single mate, also 53, I just wouldn't care whether 99% of women wanted me or not. Call it arrogance, self-worth, good luck of having a good family, plus some experience of nasty females, whatever, the truth is I now don't GAF.  Just like him. And precisely because of that IMO, some of them want him, I guess the same would be true of me. Note - he still doesn't shag much, as he can't be arsed with the trouble it brings. (half the time it's a girlfriend of someone in pub or similar)

I'm absolutely sure if I was single and used Tinder or ran around trying to get dates, I'd have all the issues described in your (rather brilliantly entertaining) stories and miserably described by the bloke in the video. But I wouldn't be doing any of that. Futile and dispiriting.

Little anecdote :- In bar recently, watching live music, mate next to me on one side. Other side a woman, fancies herself a bit, tattoos and late 40s, reasonable appearance otherwise. Cat enters bar. As the little bastards always do, it tries to endear itself to me by jumping up on the bench seat next to me and cuddling up. I ignore it. Woman pipes up "You don't like cats much, I guess".  I give the cat a disdainful look - "No,"  Then she says "Nor women much either, I guess". Extremely cheeky IMO, and a bad idea as I'm a bit drunk and way stroppier than usual. I give her the cold blue-eyed stare and say "They have their uses" then return my attention to the music. Woman's face turns purple with rage, mate can barely stand up from drink/laughing.  We leave after finishing drinks before woman sics her mates onto us. Mate tells me off (while still giggling) for being excessively rude....

I'm not advocating being a rude drunk bastard, but I suspect if you reach a similar level of DGAF while remaining more polite than I was, the game will change.

I've got you down now as the babe magnet giving a withering look as per previous link.

 

 

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1 minute ago, crashmonitor said:

I've got you down now as the babe magnet giving a withering look as per previous link.

 

 

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:D Ha, I wish. Less hair, less money, less well-groomed, worse clothes, no cigar, I'm a bit younger and probably fitter. Apart from that we're exactly the same.

She wasn't exactly what you'd call totty, or not in my book. My mate also pointed out that I was a bit of a hypocrite as I wouldn't have said that if I fancied her a lot. Not sure about that.  

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4 hours ago, swiss_democracy_for_all said:

 

Fuck me the bloke who made that video is a miserable cunt,

He need to man the fuck up. Its as simple a that. Really no good can come from listening to that shit.

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20 hours ago, swiss_democracy_for_all said:

 Woman pipes up "You don't like cats much, I guess".  I give the cat a disdainful look - "No,"  Then she says "Nor women much either, I guess". Extremely cheeky IMO, and a bad idea as I'm a bit drunk and way stroppier than usual. I give her the cold blue-eyed stare and say "They have their uses" then return my attention to the music. Woman's face turns purple with rage, mate can barely stand up from drink/laughing.  We leave after finishing drinks before woman sics her mates onto us. Mate tells me off (while still giggling) for being excessively rude....

I'm not advocating being a rude drunk bastard, but I suspect if you reach a similar level of DGAF while remaining more polite than I was, the game will change.

Strong and independent when a burd does it, rude when a bloke acts similar.

I try not to be rude to people with manners but if somebody is rude to me, then they have given me permission to be rude back.

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