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3 minutes ago, Butthead said:

I think it's more likely on Seeking.com or indeed any other dating site because (as this thread discusses at great length) that's where damaged mal-adjusted women* go. A well adjusted woman who thinks she might like a boyfriend might join a class or activity group or ask friends for an introduction to someone - she probably doesn't sign up to Tinder or Seeking.com.

I dont believe this to be true of the majority of women (and men) involved, based on my own fairly extensive personal experience, I think I have met maybe 130 ish women off various sites back in the day.

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Don't forget that, to a young person, a monthly payment for one these 'services',  isn't as outrageous as it is to you or I... Nowadays most things are bought monthly. I am sure it's all linked. Subscriptions for everything.

I am a bit torn morally over it all personally. While I like to convince myself that a service like Seeking.com is below me, at the same time I am mindful of looking back, with hindsight,  in a few years and thinking, blimey, I should have put it to good use.

Clearly remember going clubbing when I was in my 20s and being extremely judgemental about the 30-somethings who were also going clubbing. What a bunch of losers, I hope I am not doing that when I am in my 30s. etc.

Now that I am of that age and the highlight of most of my peer's week is being told by  the wife what to make the kids for dinner, I'd rather be clubbing... :CryBaby:

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11 minutes ago, goldbug9999 said:

I dont believe this to be true of the majority of women (and men) involved, based on my own fairly extensive personal experience, I think I have met maybe 130 ish women off various sites back in the day.

Back in the day being the key operator.

This shit has moved on since the Match.com days. :CryBaby:

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I think some of the recent posters on this thread have forgotten - or never knew - that relationships are transactional. Just because you can't see the value of the transaction doesn't mean it's not there. Value is subjective and often largely unconsciously determined. I wouldn't judge anyone using Seeking or similar sites, male or female, "damaged" or otherwise. They have their own reasons for doing so.

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2 minutes ago, invalid said:

I'll pitch in with some candid tales of my own and take the judgment. For context, happily married, sex whenever requested although always felt the desire was never reciprocated at the same level.

So, when younger (mainly 30s) spent quite a bit on paid for sex, in a few different eastern european countries and in the UK.

In general, in the European places the girls were stunning, worked in managed brothels and appeared to be very well protected by staff/bouncers. No doubt there was a lower side to it all and perhaps having the money only ever saw the best of it. A couple of times it was a bit scary, getting a taxi to a house in the middle of nowhere, not speaking a word of the local langauge and the doorman locks the door behind you with a big steel bar. I got the impression the girls earnt well, were smart and I never saw any signs of drug abuse.

While the girls were stunning, the sex was only ever average no matter how good an actor the girl is. You always know that its fake and you are just bloke number xx for that day.

 

I found the UK a bit more hit and miss. In one UK city had the best experience, the first time for having a paid encounter. She was an independant escort, smart, clean, very genuine. In her 30's and the puppies were heading south but other than that an amazing figure and the best looking pussy I have ever seen. Did some oral on her which I regretted for some time after as was paranoid about having caught something. The other regret was misplacing her contact details and not seeing her again.

 

The worst in the UK was a real skanky whore found off adultwork in a Northern town. She was most certainly on hard drugs. Stank of ciggies. And I'm pretty sure was being pimped out by some local Asians. I ended up having to pick her up from her house, a group of Asian blokes in an Audi stopped in the road and checked me out. Bit scary at the time. She said most of her clients were Asian men, as a result she was checking the condom every 30 seconds as the Asians always take it off if they get a chance. Had a real long wash down in the shower after that one.

The oddest was a nice girl but had something a bit odd about her. She said that her and her boyfriend liked to go to orgies. It was an option to have her boyfriend (not gay) there to fuck her as well, never took that option. Arranged to see her again a year later when I was next in the area, she said yeah fine but I'm 6 months pregnant, is that ok with you? Not my thing so declined.

 

In all of these experiences I have always felt like the one being taken advantage of. Perhaps the only exception being the skank from the northern town, where perhaps we were both being taken advantage of.

:Sick1: You have a far stronger stomach than I do, delicate wee 14 stone flower that I am..

 

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23 minutes ago, invalid said:

I'll pitch in with some candid tales of my own and take the judgment. For context, happily married, sex whenever requested although always felt the desire was never reciprocated at the same level.

So, when younger (mainly 30s) spent quite a bit on paid for sex, in a few different eastern european countries and in the UK.

In general, in the European places the girls were stunning, worked in managed brothels and appeared to be very well protected by staff/bouncers. No doubt there was a lower side to it all and perhaps having the money only ever saw the best of it. A couple of times it was a bit scary, getting a taxi to a house in the middle of nowhere, not speaking a word of the local langauge and the doorman locks the door behind you with a big steel bar. I got the impression the girls earnt well, were smart and I never saw any signs of drug abuse.

While the girls were stunning, the sex was only ever average no matter how good an actor the girl is. You always know that its fake and you are just bloke number xx for that day.

 

I found the UK a bit more hit and miss. In one UK city had the best experience, the first time for having a paid encounter. She was an independant escort, smart, clean, very genuine. In her 30's and the puppies were heading south but other than that an amazing figure and the best looking pussy I have ever seen. Did some oral on her which I regretted for some time after as was paranoid about having caught something. The other regret was misplacing her contact details and not seeing her again.

 

The worst in the UK was a real skanky whore found off adultwork in a Northern town. She was most certainly on hard drugs. Stank of ciggies. And I'm pretty sure was being pimped out by some local Asians. I ended up having to pick her up from her house, a group of Asian blokes in an Audi stopped in the road and checked me out. Bit scary at the time. She said most of her clients were Asian men, as a result she was checking the condom every 30 seconds as the Asians always take it off if they get a chance. Had a real long wash down in the shower after that one.

The oddest was a nice girl but had something a bit odd about her. She said that her and her boyfriend liked to go to orgies. It was an option to have her boyfriend (not gay) there to fuck her as well, never took that option. Arranged to see her again a year later when I was next in the area, she said yeah fine but I'm 6 months pregnant, is that ok with you? Not my thing so declined.

 

In all of these experiences I have always felt like the one being taken advantage of. Perhaps the only exception being the skank from the northern town, where perhaps we were both being taken advantage of.

You make it all sound so glamorous!

There was a poster on Global House Price Crash (ask your dad) called something like Saniayasin who was a regular attender at brothels including orgies arranged at same and used to document his experiences.

Again whilst you would think such things would be titillating it all sounded fairly grim and had you previously been tempted to go then reading of the reality of it from him, and your post above, certainly put you off the idea of such adventures.

I have no problem with it from a moral standpoint - as long as it's two adults freely striking a bargain which it mostly is - but it's not for me.

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10 minutes ago, swiss_democracy_for_all said:

:Sick1: You have a far stronger stomach than I do, delicate wee 14 stone flower that I am..

 

Looking back, there was probably an element of enjoying the risk taking side of it almost as much as the shagging. It did give a bit of a buzz afterwards.

Managed to get away with it, never got robbed or got any nasty diseases (always used a condom) and never caught by the missus or the hotel reception.

Not done it for many years, sometimes you have to know to quit while you are ahead.

There were certain things I would never consider such as the whores in Africa were a massive no no for me, didn't float my boat and waaaayyy too risky, many of the guys would happily fill their boots and some even declined to use condoms. So how I looked upon that, I apreciate some will feel the same about what I did.

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1 hour ago, goldbug9999 said:

I dont believe this to be true of the majority of women (and men) involved, based on my own fairly extensive personal experience, I think I have met maybe 130 ish women off various sites back in the day.

I would guess your natural tastes and (eventually) experience probably led to you instinctively avoiding the worst ones anyway. 

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4 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

You make it all sound so glamorous!

There was a poster on Global House Price Crash (ask your dad) called something like Saniayasin who was a regular attender at brothels including orgies arranged at same and used to document his experiences.

Again whilst you would think such things would be titillating it all sounded fairly grim and had you previously been tempted to go then reading of the reality of it from him, and your post above, certainly put you off the idea of such adventures.

I have no problem with it from a moral standpoint - as long as it's two adults freely striking a bargain which it mostly is - but it's not for me.

In some ways I think its all the same as guys paying for only fans etc just at a different level. As other have said, its a transaction and you are seriously kidding yourself if you think the girl really is having an orgasm or enjoying it. I'm sure there are the odd times where this is the case but I expect they are rare as a Council estate girl from Scabby without tattoos.

The girls might be stunning but its very different to sex within a relationship.

I do know of someone from years ago before the sugar daddy websites who had a regular escort and they ended up becoming a couple. He was of course rather rich. Not seen him in around 10 years so don't know how it worked out long term.

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7 hours ago, gibbon said:

There's a lot this. You have to imagine how fucked up a hot 20 year old girl must be to go on the game, who could have life on easy mode with the halo effect, but decides fucking some obese never washed 60 old semi-tramp with half his teeth missing, shit for breath, cock covered in god knows what for £100 or so is a better alternative.

You just need to wash it and spruce yourself up mate

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2 hours ago, invalid said:

In all of these experiences I have always felt like the one being taken advantage of. Perhaps the only exception being the skank from the northern town, where perhaps we were both being taken advantage of.

Are you for fucking real...?

Please tell me that comment is a fucking wind-up...

 

XYY

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10 hours ago, gibbon said:

There's a lot this. You have to imagine how fucked up a hot 20 year old girl must be to go on the game, who could have life on easy mode with the halo effect, but decides fucking some obese never washed 60 old semi-tramp with half his teeth missing, shit for breath, cock covered in god knows what for £100 or so is a better alternative.

You dissing @xyy again? 

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5 hours ago, spunko said:

Don't forget that, to a young person, a monthly payment for one these 'services',  isn't as outrageous as it is to you or I... Nowadays most things are bought monthly. I am sure it's all linked. Subscriptions for everything.

I am a bit torn morally over it all personally. While I like to convince myself that a service like Seeking.com is below me, at the same time I am mindful of looking back, with hindsight,  in a few years and thinking, blimey, I should have put it to good use.

Clearly remember going clubbing when I was in my 20s and being extremely judgemental about the 30-somethings who were also going clubbing. What a bunch of losers, I hope I am not doing that when I am in my 30s. etc.

Now that I am of that age and the highlight of most of my peer's week is being told by  the wife what to make the kids for dinner, I'd rather be clubbing... :CryBaby:

Perfectly valid.

Clubs are dire. I hated n swerved them when I was under 25. 

I no more step into a what was a nightclub over 25. Dire places.

I went once, with my arms severely twisted to take out one of Mrs spys friends recently divorced saddo brother.

Still have flash backs.

Lik a school disco, but everyone was 20y older n fatter.

I ended up leaving to get away from some good awful pushy divorcee, left him to it.

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4 hours ago, invalid said:

I'll pitch in with some candid tales of my own and take the judgment. For context, happily married, sex whenever requested although always felt the desire was never reciprocated at the same level.

So, when younger (mainly 30s) spent quite a bit on paid for sex, in a few different eastern european countries and in the UK.

In general, in the European places the girls were stunning, worked in managed brothels and appeared to be very well protected by staff/bouncers. No doubt there was a lower side to it all and perhaps having the money only ever saw the best of it. A couple of times it was a bit scary, getting a taxi to a house in the middle of nowhere, not speaking a word of the local langauge and the doorman locks the door behind you with a big steel bar. I got the impression the girls earnt well, were smart and I never saw any signs of drug abuse.

While the girls were stunning, the sex was only ever average no matter how good an actor the girl is. You always know that its fake and you are just bloke number xx for that day.

 

I found the UK a bit more hit and miss. In one UK city had the best experience, the first time for having a paid encounter. She was an independant escort, smart, clean, very genuine. In her 30's and the puppies were heading south but other than that an amazing figure and the best looking pussy I have ever seen. Did some oral on her which I regretted for some time after as was paranoid about having caught something. The other regret was misplacing her contact details and not seeing her again.

 

The worst in the UK was a real skanky whore found off adultwork in a Northern town. She was most certainly on hard drugs. Stank of ciggies. And I'm pretty sure was being pimped out by some local Asians. I ended up having to pick her up from her house, a group of Asian blokes in an Audi stopped in the road and checked me out. Bit scary at the time. She said most of her clients were Asian men, as a result she was checking the condom every 30 seconds as the Asians always take it off if they get a chance. Had a real long wash down in the shower after that one.

The oddest was a nice girl but had something a bit odd about her. She said that her and her boyfriend liked to go to orgies. It was an option to have her boyfriend (not gay) there to fuck her as well, never took that option. Arranged to see her again a year later when I was next in the area, she said yeah fine but I'm 6 months pregnant, is that ok with you? Not my thing so declined.

 

In all of these experiences I have always felt like the one being taken advantage of. Perhaps the only exception being the skank from the northern town, where perhaps we were both being taken advantage of.

You're not really selling the UK sex industry....

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6 hours ago, invalid said:

I'll pitch in with some candid tales of my own and take the judgment. For context, happily married, sex whenever requested although always felt the desire was never reciprocated at the same level.

So, when younger (mainly 30s) spent quite a bit on paid for sex, in a few different eastern european countries and in the UK.

In general, in the European places the girls were stunning, worked in managed brothels and appeared to be very well protected by staff/bouncers. No doubt there was a lower side to it all and perhaps having the money only ever saw the best of it. A couple of times it was a bit scary, getting a taxi to a house in the middle of nowhere, not speaking a word of the local langauge and the doorman locks the door behind you with a big steel bar. I got the impression the girls earnt well, were smart and I never saw any signs of drug abuse.

While the girls were stunning, the sex was only ever average no matter how good an actor the girl is. You always know that its fake and you are just bloke number xx for that day.

 

I found the UK a bit more hit and miss. In one UK city had the best experience, the first time for having a paid encounter. She was an independant escort, smart, clean, very genuine. In her 30's and the puppies were heading south but other than that an amazing figure and the best looking pussy I have ever seen. Did some oral on her which I regretted for some time after as was paranoid about having caught something. The other regret was misplacing her contact details and not seeing her again.

 

The worst in the UK was a real skanky whore found off adultwork in a Northern town. She was most certainly on hard drugs. Stank of ciggies. And I'm pretty sure was being pimped out by some local Asians. I ended up having to pick her up from her house, a group of Asian blokes in an Audi stopped in the road and checked me out. Bit scary at the time. She said most of her clients were Asian men, as a result she was checking the condom every 30 seconds as the Asians always take it off if they get a chance. Had a real long wash down in the shower after that one.

The oddest was a nice girl but had something a bit odd about her. She said that her and her boyfriend liked to go to orgies. It was an option to have her boyfriend (not gay) there to fuck her as well, never took that option. Arranged to see her again a year later when I was next in the area, she said yeah fine but I'm 6 months pregnant, is that ok with you? Not my thing so declined.

 

In all of these experiences I have always felt like the one being taken advantage of. Perhaps the only exception being the skank from the northern town, where perhaps we were both being taken advantage of.

Nice bit of bedtime reading.

:Jumping:

 

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7 hours ago, Alex said:

I think some of the recent posters on this thread have forgotten - or never knew - that relationships are transactional. Just because you can't see the value of the transaction doesn't mean it's not there. Value is subjective and often largely unconsciously determined. I wouldn't judge anyone using Seeking or similar sites, male or female, "damaged" or otherwise. They have their own reasons for doing so.

Very true I’ve seen it myself today.

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Well don’t do what I did this morning in front of the yummy mummy’s a skanks at my lads school.queen bee a top skank who is normaly banished to the road out side for bullying other mums put her arm

on mine and said we are all here for you

mark.i said why ,she is like er you know why I said no

i don’t Please tell me I don’t gossip I don’t know anyone here.but I do know that you owe her 300 quid this is in front of all the other mums there was a bit of an aquard silence then I said so yes I will accept your help so you can pay the 300 quid back to me .there was a bit of sniggering at the back from other mums 

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18 hours ago, Butthead said:

I think it's more likely on Seeking.com or indeed any other dating site because (as this thread discusses at great length) that's where damaged mal-adjusted women* go. A well adjusted woman who thinks she might like a boyfriend might join a class or activity group or ask friends for an introduction to someone - she probably doesn't sign up to Tinder or Seeking.com.

With you on the damaged women heading to seeking.com. Think we're the deluded ones on here if we think it's full of hot young rational high class 20 year olds who are only fucking chads for money and dinners rather than a bunch of damaged money hungry whores fucking dirty old men.

Would love to know what % of women use tinder et al. Impossible to know I guess. Did find this stat which is enough reason to never sign up as a bloke unless you're a giga chad:

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As of December 2019 it was estimated that 78.1% of Tinder users were male, compared to 21.9% female, according to stats published on Statista. In the UK, it was estimated by Ogury that 85% of the online dating market was male, as of April 2019.

 

13 hours ago, Kurt Barlow said:

You dissing @xyy again? 

Do you know how hard it was when typing that not to mention him? Was going to include "60 year old semi-tramp who takes pictures of his ass" but held back.

13 hours ago, spygirl said:

Perfectly valid.

Clubs are dire. I hated n swerved them when I was under 25. 

I no more step into a what was a nightclub over 25. Dire places.

I went once, with my arms severely twisted to take out one of Mrs spys friends recently divorced saddo brother.

Still have flash backs.

Lik a school disco, but everyone was 20y older n fatter.

I ended up leaving to get away from some good awful pushy divorcee, left him to it.

Used to do pretty well in clubs before tinder. Like shooting fish in a barrel and there was almost this carnival atmosphere. Yeah the music and beer was normally shit but you got to mack on endless birds and the odds were reasonable you could take something home or at the very least you'd have had a good laugh with your mates and it stopped you becoming a social retard unlike the lads now who just spend their lives sat in-front a phone or monitor.

Nowadays though, yeah fuck em shut em down. People don't interact with strangers, it's all mixed "safe" groups, beer is still shit and music is even worse, every single one is absolute sausage fest with appalling ratios of men to women so no chance of pulling and even if you do find and mack on a bird she'll tell you to do one as her dating pipeline is full from apps. 

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57 minutes ago, gibbon said:

Used to do pretty well in clubs before tinder. Like shooting fish in a barrel and there was almost this carnival atmosphere. Yeah the music and beer was normally shit but you got to mack on endless birds and the odds were reasonable you could take something home or at the very least you'd have had a good laugh with your mates and it stopped you becoming a social retard unlike the lads now who just spend their lives sat in-front a phone or monitor.


Nowadays though, yeah fuck em shut em down. People don't interact with strangers, it's all mixed "safe" groups, beer is still shit and music is even worse, every single one is absolute sausage fest with appalling ratios of men to women so no chance of pulling and even if you do find and mack on a bird she'll tell you to do one as her dating pipeline is full from apps. 

I always got the impression that, even before Tinder, most girls were at clubs to have girls nights out with the other girls, as opposed to a way to meet blokes. I think this is even more true post-Tinder.

Blokes went to clubs in their teens/early 20's because it was the done thing and there was an implication that you might pull although nobody I knew ever did.

Most people I knew had had enough of 'clubbing' by the time they were about 23.

I once saw a bloke who had a reputation as a big success with the ladies go on the pull in a nightclub, and it was just a case of him walking up to every girl he could find, get rejected, then move on to the next one he could find. Watched him get rejected like 10 times in the space of 15 mins, including one awkward encounter where the girls boyfriend who was a foot taller than the fellow came back with drinks to find this bloke hitting on his burd :D Can't even remember if the bloke did pull in the end, it was just comical seeing him methodically trying to find someone, anyone, to stick his cock in.

I have a couple of single friends who kept on going to these places into their early 30's long after I'd bowed out, and I got the impression they were talking to girls who would give them their social media details, instagrams ect...but the girls were basically collecting social media followers; they had no interest in dating or sleeping with these men.

I can understand the appeal of a club if it plays a specific sort of music you like, and has a good dancefloor and you wanna get pissed and dance in a sweaty pit of a dance floor. But no chance of that while covid's here.

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36 minutes ago, JoeDavola said:

I always got the impression that, even before Tinder, most girls were at clubs to have girls nights out with the other girls, as opposed to a way to meet blokes. I think this is even more true post-Tinder.

Blokes went to clubs in their teens/early 20's because it was the done thing and there was an implication that you might pull although nobody I knew ever did.

 

I pulled once in a nightclub in wiltshire and did the dirty with the nice young thing that very night.  I still think that was the night I was possessed by the ghost of erroll flynn - I was beating them off with a shitty stick.  Prior month, and month after, i was a man in a desert.

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35 minutes ago, JoeDavola said:

I always got the impression that, even before Tinder, most girls were at clubs to have girls nights out with the other girls, as opposed to a way to meet blokes. I think this is even more true post-Tinder.

Blokes went to clubs in their teens/early 20's because it was the done thing and there was an implication that you might pull although nobody I knew ever did.

Most people I knew had had enough of 'clubbing' by the time they were about 23.

I once saw a bloke who had a reputation as a big success with the ladies go on the pull in a nightclub, and it was just a case of him walking up to every girl he could find, get rejected, then move on to the next one he could find. Watched him get rejected like 10 times in the space of 15 mins, including one awkward encounter where the girls boyfriend who was a foot taller than the fellow came back with drinks to find this bloke hitting on his burd :D Can't even remember if the bloke did pull in the end, it was just comical seeing him methodically trying to find someone, anyone, to stick his cock in.

I have a couple of single friends who kept on going to these places into their early 30's long after I'd bowed out, and I got the impression they were talking to girls who would give them their social media details, instagrams ect...but the girls were basically collecting social media followers; they had no interest in dating or sleeping with these men.

I can understand the appeal of a club if it plays a specific sort of music you like, and has a good dancefloor and you wanna get pissed and dance in a sweaty pit of a dance floor. But no chance of that while covid's here.

While it may be true today, before dating apps young women were in the clubs for the same reason as men... my recollection of clubbing was a world apart from yours - all my mates pulled including myself. In 10 years I must have snogged 500 burds and taken 50 of them home. I'm the wrong side of 40 now so sticking to local pubs as that's more realistic and viable than competing with young pups.

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14 minutes ago, longtomsilver said:

While it may be true today, before dating apps young women were in the clubs for the same reason as men... my recollection of clubbing was a world apart from yours - all my mates pulled including myself. In 10 years I must have snogged 500 burds and taken 50 of them home. I'm the wrong side of 40 now so sticking to local pubs as that's more realistic and viable than competing with young pups.

I think it might be a mixture of age and both me and my mates not being very regular clubbers or attractive.

I used to work with a bloke who I'd guess is touching 50 now, and he casually mentioned how he'd go to clubs in Edinburgh in his early 20's and usually meet and bring a new girl home every week as if it was the most normal thing in the world and that everyone was doing it.

Most blokes I know who I grew up around who have the whole wife and family thing now had met their wives by the age of about 25, and maybe had one or two girlfriends before then. Their notch count is more like 5 than 50.

The bloke who I grew up with who ended up with the highest notch count, in the 30's, went away to Edinburgh at 18 for uni and that seemed to have been a far more varied social scene than for the rest of us who stayed in NI. He also had this Russel Brand kinda thing going on that women love.

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