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Libspero

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Britain is prepared to pay the  Brexit bill in full to the tune of 40bn Euro :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/05/uk-ready-pay-40bn-brexit-bill-eu-talks-trade/

Personally I think that's a bit pathetic..  seems like they've basically just rolled over.  It is exactly the amount the Europeans originally asked for.

What exactly do we get for our 40bn ?   Presumably continued membership of certain research / joint projects etc.   I also presume they will still be legally obliged to continue some of the spend for those projects in the UK ?

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44 minutes ago, Libspero said:

Britain is prepared to pay the  Brexit bill in full to the tune of 40bn Euro :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/05/uk-ready-pay-40bn-brexit-bill-eu-talks-trade/

Personally I think that's a bit pathetic..  seems like they've basically just rolled over.  It is exactly the amount the Europeans originally asked for.

What exactly do we get for our 40bn ?   Presumably continued membership of certain research / joint projects etc.   I also presume they will still be legally obliged to continue some of the spend for those projects in the UK ?

Still cheaper than bailing out the banks for which we got nothing.

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Just now, Flirtygirty said:

Still cheaper than bailing out the banks.

I don't know..  didn't we get most of that back in the end? 

Can't see us getting anything back from Europe..

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Just now, Libspero said:

I don't know..  didn't we get most of that back in the end? 

Can't see us getting anything back from Europe..

Last time I checked we still had a much bigger deficit than before the banking crisis so I would guess the answer to that question is No.

BTW I don't think there will be an agreed deal on Brexit despite the contents of the story.  

I think the EU will want more which we won't be able to pay.

Anyway we already pay £12.9 billion a year in membership fees for being a part of an organisation that routinely excludes us from the decision making process.

Personally I would just run the clock down to 2019 and then leave them with nothing.

 

 

 

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I'm thinking that the fact that Article 50 was mostly written by a Briton is no accident. The two year deadline was inserted so that the EU couldn't drag it's heels over thrashing out the details of the process of a country leaving the EU. Prior to Article 50 any country trying to leave the EU would have any number of obstacles thrown in it's way by the EU and might end up never leaving. With Article 50 the clock is ticking and the EU can't stop it.

I really do think the intention all along was for the UK to use Article 50 to get itself out of the EU mess.

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I can't get over excited about this; £12.9bn every year for eternity and inflating or £40bn in full and final settlement.  I'm happy to pay to extricate ourselves for good from this shambles.

 

Cable's being an absolute arse, but no surprise there.  Mixing in Austerity, Brexit and the evil pensioners.

He's also had the gall to come out with this nonsense when most of these problems are actually CAUSED by the EU's freedom of movement (=uncontrolled immigration).

 

Young people, he said, have the added problems of "prohibitive housing costs, growing job insecurity and limited career progression".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40842017

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4 hours ago, ccc said:

Where is our ongoing share of the toll road we built in Andalusia ?

We need to get some bollocks and tell them to go fuck themselves. 

Maybe we need to send some people over there to dig up and bring back our share. We could use it to add another lane to the m25

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11 hours ago, Libspero said:

Britain is prepared to pay the  Brexit bill in full to the tune of 40bn Euro :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/05/uk-ready-pay-40bn-brexit-bill-eu-talks-trade/

Personally I think that's a bit pathetic..  seems like they've basically just rolled over.  It is exactly the amount the Europeans originally asked for.

What exactly do we get for our 40bn ?   Presumably continued membership of certain research / joint projects etc.   I also presume they will still be legally obliged to continue some of the spend for those projects in the UK ?


No deal would mean we're 40bn up?

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the So-Called BBC is surprisingly carrying less than 'good EU' news

Dutch willfully sold pesticide laced eggs to to the Belgians for many months

Junckers pisses away €500,000 in two months on travel; one private air charter alone, to Rome for 9 people, was for €25,000

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Commission spokeswoman Mina Andreeva said the private jet was chartered because there was "no viable commercial plane available that would fit the president's agenda" and stressed the 2,927 euro (£2,650) per person cost of the flight.

Just £2,650.00 pp, so then, that's a bargain.

These bureaucrats are tossers of the highest order.

 

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On ‎06‎/‎08‎/‎2017 at 09:53, Frank Hovis said:

I can't get over excited about this; £12.9bn every year for eternity and inflating or £40bn in full and final settlement.  I'm happy to pay to extricate ourselves for good from this shambles.

 

Cable's being an absolute arse, but no surprise there.  Mixing in Austerity, Brexit and the evil pensioners.

He's also had the gall to come out with this nonsense when most of these problems are actually CAUSED by the EU's freedom of movement (=uncontrolled immigration).

 

Young people, he said, have the added problems of "prohibitive housing costs, growing job insecurity and limited career progression".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40842017

Can we please stop referring to Austerity and give it its proper name 'The Blair Brown Bankruptcy legacy.'

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I suspect that they agreed to the 40bn as they knew the Eu wouldnt negotiate without it.

At the end of the day if there is no decent trade agreement, the government will prolly tell them to go screw themselves. This was just to open the negotiations.

the So-Called BBC kept this quiet, i had to dig a bit to find it. Then it doesnt fit their agenda. Yet some crap about Juncker makes the front page. The Vile BBC!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41235522

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1 hour ago, Green Devil said:

I suspect that they agreed to the 40bn as they knew the Eu wouldnt negotiate without it.

At the end of the day if there is no decent trade agreement, the government will prolly tell them to go screw themselves. This was just to open the negotiations.

the So-Called BBC kept this quiet, i had to dig a bit to find it. Then it doesnt fit their agenda. Yet some crap about Juncker makes the front page. The Vile BBC!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41235522

It's just a bribe. Was anyone in doubt that if the EU were to offer a deal on market access for our banks and financial services industry, then our taxpayers will "gladly" shell out some unfeasibly large lump sum payment?

 

It's the winning formula: privatise the profits, socialise the losses.

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30 minutes ago, Hail the Tripod said:

It's just a bribe. Was anyone in doubt that if the EU were to offer a deal on market access for our banks and financial services industry, then our taxpayers will "gladly" shell out some unfeasibly large lump sum payment?

 

It's the winning formula: privatise the profits, socialise the losses.

The same banks that promised to fuck off abroad if we had the temerity to vote out.

Oh, and the banks haven't repaid any money back to the government they just stole it from savers, with the numbers/finances suitably rigged by the central bank and government to hide the theft.

 

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1 hour ago, onlyme said:

The same banks that promised to fuck off abroad if we had the temerity to vote out.

Oh, and the banks haven't repaid any money back to the government they just stole it from savers, with the numbers/finances suitably rigged by the central bank and government to hide the theft.

 

Yes what did happen to them fucking off?  They appear to still be here 

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2 hours ago, One percent said:

Yes what did happen to them fucking off?  They appear to still be here 

I imagine the US is saying the same about the Hollywood stars that are still there despite "threatening" to fuck off if Trump won.

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