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Are the government tailoring their statements/policy around the mood on social media


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I`m not sure if it`s just me seeing /making connections that are not there but it seems to be happening with greater frequency

Take the matter of how PHE were recording deaths due to CV ,it was obvious from a month or so before they announced the "urgent" enquiry that there were an ever increasing number of people question the numbers ,with the caveat it was becoming more and more obvious that there was something wrong 

/going on

It was the same regarding Priti Patel and here announcement that she was going to stop the French coast guard escorting migrant boats to UK waters there were loads of videos and comments regarding this issue  

Their timing seems to be impeccable,and what happens after is the same big announcement huge fan fair ,then a deathly silence never has the old saying watch what they do not listen to what they say been more pertinent IMO  

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For sure social media has been a useful tool for gauging sentiment ever since the days of call-me-dave wibbling on about how important mumsnet is. I suspect their outlook is somewhere between fearing and hoping to placate or control it. UK Column were on about OfCom making a statement that secondary legislation will be coming in to force in the Autumn regulating what they call 'VSP' - video sharing platforms based in the UK. Being such boomers they hadn't thought about bitchute, but the article had me wondering if that was what OfCom / gov have in mind. 

MSM is increasingly tied in to government because of it's value in controlling the narrative evidenced by all outlets reporting the same stories and viewpoints. To a degree Silicon Valley social media also polices itself because of the strongly leftist culture from universities and politics that carries over into their industry, as we have seen with the increasingly strong censorship of facebook, youtube etc. In short, yes they are tailoring announcements around mood on social media because it is a direct measurement. The problem is that social media is home to a minority of gobshites with strong opinions and too much time on their hands and isn't necessarily an accurate reflection of the mood of the nation.

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17 minutes ago, Caravan Monster said:

The problem is that social media is home to a minority of gobshites with strong opinions and too much time on their hands and isn't necessarily an accurate reflection of the mood of the nation.

I would say they have a way of filtering that out take the Priti Patel statement ,i think they have a way of comforting/reacting to just their own voting demographics 

As others have said public opinion has always played a part but the timing seems to be getting far better  

I`m pretty sure they are not using their own accounts as a metric as most are full of hatters regardless of whether it`s team red or blue

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9 minutes ago, ccc said:

They seem to completely misjudge that places like twatter or FB are representative of public opinion.

It's certain opinions, driven by advertising sponsors. When you realise that, it becomes clearer, innit?

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8 minutes ago, ccc said:

They seem to completely misjudge that places like twatter or FB are representative of public opinion.

I think both are echo chambers of the side you are on and the same for articles/opinion something nationalist is generally jumped on by lefties and it`s the revers of that when the comment is SJW biased 

But i would agree 100% with you when it comes to the MSM they continuously get it wrong it`s akin to England winning the world cup and the bookies odds ,they know they can by a new car every four years for cash 

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The various news media have been influencing public opinion for years. They won't report an event, they will report the "growing outrage" about the event.

Once you spot it in news reports, you notice it everytime. The BBC is the champion. 

The British public are like a simple pantomime audience reacting as instructed. Cheer. Boo. Isn't that right boys and girls...? I'd you can bring yourself to watch a "talent" show on ITV, the applause has been replaced with this mindless "wooooooooo" noise to anything and everything.

As for social media, I don't think the public really have their own opinion so this can't influence gov policy. I don't know how long the news media have been deciding our opinion for us.

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47 minutes ago, snaga said:

yes, but social media isn't public opinion, it's a filtered and censored view.

The politicians all live in a bubble. Twitter is another slightly bigger bubble that they mistake for a representation of the wider zeitgeist.

The naivety of it all would be hilarious if the consequences weren't so bad for the rest of us.

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For sure they respond and react to stuff on social media.  Sometimes they will use it and sometimes they will push against it.

Today there was an advert about fake news on bbc radio - about how it can mislead and how it can cause harm. 

No - of course it wasn't about the fake news MSM but at the same time they weren't that specific either but everyone who listens to bbc knows it won't be them, of course.  It's delivered in the doomiest of intonations that even Haw-Haw would have blushed at.

 

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1 hour ago, eta-carinae said:

The various news media have been influencing public opinion for years. They won't report an event, they will report the "growing outrage" about the event.

Once you spot it in news reports, you notice it everytime. The BBC is the champion. 

The British public are like a simple pantomime audience reacting as instructed. Cheer. Boo. Isn't that right boys and girls...? I'd you can bring yourself to watch a "talent" show on ITV, the applause has been replaced with this mindless "wooooooooo" noise to anything and everything.

As for social media, I don't think the public really have their own opinion so this can't influence gov policy. I don't know how long the news media have been deciding our opinion for us.

If it's actually got an audience and isn't just a canned audience like the lock down's canned football crowd noise it will often be orchestrated by orchestrators in the wings - that is for performances to be broadcast.  Clap now laugh now etc probably with some canned noise on top just for emphasis.

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1 hour ago, snaga said:

Are the government tailoring their statements/policy around the mood on social media?

Probably, as that would explain why my mood and millions like me are being ignored.

Doesn't this site count as social media? They'd be crazy just to use Twitter or FB exclusively, as I'd imagine they're generally populated by a younger demographic, whereas forums (fora?) probably attract an older crowd who're easily categorised too. 

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8 minutes ago, Craig said:

Doesn't this site count as social media? They'd be crazy just to use Twitter or FB exclusively, as I'd imagine they're generally populated by a younger demographic, whereas forums (fora?) probably attract an older crowd who're easily categorised too. 

It does. But they don't listen to us because we are wrong.

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3 hours ago, MrPin said:

It's certain opinions, driven by advertising sponsors. When you realise that, it becomes clearer, innit?

Yes indeed.

Once you realise that the cheap patio refurb will be carried out by the Fred West Building Company of Cromwell Street - it kinda takes the edge off it...

 

XYY

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21 minutes ago, The XYY Man said:

Yes indeed.

Once you realise that the cheap patio refurb will be carried out by the Fred West Building Company of Cromwell Street - it kinda takes the edge off it...

 

XYY

Bodgit and creepaway are my preferred contractors. :)

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46 minutes ago, Craig said:

Doesn't this site count as social media? They'd be crazy just to use Twitter or FB exclusively, as I'd imagine they're generally populated by a younger demographic, whereas forums (fora?) probably attract an older crowd who're easily categorised too. 

too much hard work, Twitter, Facebook etc have handy API's so they can pull data out and analyse it. Sites like dosbods are too difficult to gather good data.

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20 minutes ago, snaga said:

too much hard work, Twitter, Facebook etc have handy API's so they can pull data out and analyse it. Sites like dosbods are too difficult to gather good data.

I get what you're saying snags.

That daft cunt @spunko is far too useless for that situation to be anything other than accidental mind.

He couldn't filter out a bell-end in a house full of fucking fannies...

 

XYY

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