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I fucking hate the Dutch. They're all over-sized mongs. What I've found whenever I've dealt with the Dutch is they make a big thing about being direct, but as soon as they get some directness back the

This is why Brexit must be seen to be disorderly. Pour décourager les autres.

You don't expect us to listen to the diddly stuff ourselves?🇮🇪

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4 minutes ago, MrLibertyRedux said:

It might take a bit longer, but they can't keep the plates spinning for ever.

I'd wager Italy out first.

Various indexes and betting firms have Italy, followed by Denmark and Poland as the most likely.... 

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8 minutes ago, Long time lurking said:

Quitaly is the obvious choice but i could well see a net contributor going first as it`s will be their wealth that is ultimately going to have to be used to bail out the PIGS as well as Italy which really is to big to fail 

Quitaly is far better than Italexit - Farage has missed a trick. 

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1 minute ago, SomersetMatt said:

The Dutch can’t be happy. I like the Dutch as people (think they’re closest to English in personality/culture) and everyone of them I’ve spoken to hates EU. 

I fucking hate the Dutch. They're all over-sized mongs. What I've found whenever I've dealt with the Dutch is they make a big thing about being direct, but as soon as they get some directness back they get their arse in their hands.

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I'd go for Italy, once a proud manufacturing nation it has been raped by France & Germany, even their beloved FIAT cars will be French or German ones with badges stuck on them in the near future.

The Irish will be the last to leave as they have no resources and no economy other than a Peasant one.

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2 minutes ago, Roger_Mellie said:

as soon as they get some directness back they get their arse in their hands

At University I recall a masters student from Holland. We oh so originally nick named him Dutch. He didn't mind. He should could give a mean cut down. As you say, anything back he saw his arse as they say.

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1 minute ago, SomersetMatt said:

The Dutch can’t be happy. I like the Dutch as people (think they’re closest to English in personality/culture) and everyone of them I’ve spoken to hates EU. 

Italy are right though in their stance the prosperous countries take all the up side gain from a single currency and a single market but when things get bad those very same countries say it`s every man for themselves 

If the EU was a Federal system it would be far more stable but that would be to the detriment of those with the most productive economies  

The Euro and the single market was a German/ French project designed to benefit them an no one else 

The Chickens are coming home to roost now

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2 minutes ago, Option5 said:

All the best people are.

Napoleon, Hitler, me,.........Ronnie Corbett

Never had an issue with height...

Untill someone taller comes along.

I have had to explain Napoleon Syndrome to my teenage son.

I now have it. The gangly bean pole he is. I am still the daddy.

Oops..there I go.

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6 minutes ago, Roger_Mellie said:

I fucking hate the Dutch. They're all over-sized mongs. What I've found whenever I've dealt with the Dutch is they make a big thing about being direct, but as soon as they get some directness back they get their arse in their hands.

XYY mode on are they pegging analogies  ?

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I would go for Italy. They have more momentum I guess than Holland.

That said, stereotype of course, the Itallians have a bit more..well go in them.

It could be a clever game of histrionic bluff.

Whatever.

When phrases are passed around that your just like Brexit UK, by Macron, there are clearly dissenters on board. Further economic woes are going to unveil this.

I also wonder if such countries might show this in relations to the UK and of course Eastern Europe.

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11 minutes ago, SomersetMatt said:

If EU had a referendum if every country, I wonder how many would vote to leave. 

Funny how quickly they closed the borders when C-19 came along. Fuck-all unity then! What fucking ‘red-lines’! 

Well that is the farce 

They have been arguing about the CV recovery fund Itally wants it to be a grant paid and funded by the ECB issuing bonds  the Germans and the French want it to be a loan paid back by the countries that receive it,Italys argument is well we might as well fuck off an issue our own bonds if that`s the case

it seems there are many "i`s" in team when it comes to some of the EU

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2 minutes ago, Long time lurking said:

Well that is the farce 

They have been arguing about the CV recovery fund Itally wants it to be a grant paid and funded by the ECB issuing bonds  the Germans and the French want it to be a loan paid back by the countries that receive it,Italys argument is well we might as well fuck off an issue our own bonds if that`s the case

it seems there are many "i`s" in team when it comes to some of the EU

A crucial point.

There is no them and us. They are in a financial union.

The Itallian standpoint is threatening the next move to end such union IMO.

That said it is a game of chicken.

If I were a civil serpent in the UK...this issue I would be leveraging to the max and stirring.

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