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Far left talking points that appear from nowhere


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I have now noticed three of these, talking points or concepts that appear from nowhere but everyone pretends that they all knew about them before: The phrase BAME: I had never heard of this until

The left appear to have largely given up on Marxism and the class struggle and have basically followed the Nazis in adopting a race based political ideology.

All large media companies, banks, charities - literally every big business - has a large team that's entire role is to tell everyone how terrible this all is - or they get made redundant. Lots of

1 hour ago, Virgil Caine said:

The left appear to have largely given up on Marxism and the class struggle and have basically followed the Nazis in adopting a race based political ideology.

That's an excellent point.

At least with communism the bourgeoisie can be re-educated. Even an emperor can be turned into a gardener. With the Nazis and the modern left, wrong race = no redemption.

Still, at least false consciousness (in modern terms: internalised racism/homophobia/TERFism/misogyny etc) can be educated away. Bring on the camps!

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2 hours ago, Virgil Caine said:

The left appear to have largely given up on Marxism and the class struggle and have basically followed the Nazis in adopting a race based political ideology.

From what I can gather it's not quite that straight forward, but socio-economic class as we traditionally understand it certainly isn't an accepted identity in modern liberal philosophy.

In their world view Dianne Abbot is just as oppressed as a 19th century slave. 

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43 minutes ago, sarahbell said:

Bame or BAME may refer to:

Asian must mean Pakistani, because the Chinese and Indians are nailing “white supremacy”.

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Working in the public sector BME was common currency at least from 2005 and I got the impression it had been around for ages.

I don't know when the "A" was forcibly inserted but it's recent.  Last three years maybe.

 

Fortunately prior to this post I was blissfully unaware of the other two.

 

3 hours ago, Stunley Andwin said:

Juneteenth: I think it is June 19th but I had never heard of it until this year. What the fuck is it? Had anyone heard of this before.

The US Black national anthem: Again, what the fuck is this, has anyone ever heard the song? Had anyone any idea about this song even a couple of weeks ago? As only nations have national anthems, what are they suggesting here?

 

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3 hours ago, Roger_Mellie said:

From what I can gather it's not quite that straight forward, but socio-economic class as we traditionally understand it certainly isn't an accepted identity in modern liberal philosophy.

In their world view Dianne Abbot is just as oppressed as a 19th century slave. 

Similarly in their philosophy, a white unemployed penniless scouser born with foetal alcohol syndrome and living in a squat is more 'privileged' than Morgan Freeman or Kanye West.

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Not all far-left stuff sticks. For example about 20 years ago I occasionally saw MSM in the press but rather than Mainstream Media this meant 'men who have sex with men' which was a concept dreamt up (I think) by AIDS charities who wanted to target closeted homosexuals (probably mostly bammies) who could not think of themselves as gayers because their culture forbade it.

 

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29 minutes ago, Austin Allegro said:

Similarly in their philosophy, a white unemployed penniless scouser born with foetal alcohol syndrome and living in a squat is more 'privileged' than Morgan Freeman or Kanye West.

Yes, and just as priveledged as the Duke of Westminster. 

Funny though, isn't it? The prevailing Liberal philosophy makes no distinction between rich and poor... Its almost like the kind of Marxism rich capitalists could get behind:ph34r:

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In Wales we see BAME initialised as BME.

For years, many took BME to mean 'Black, or Mixed Ethnicity. Then over time it became 'Black, or Minority Ethnic', which morphed into 'Black, Asian, Minority Ethnicity', presently 'Black, And Minority Ethnic'.

Some Asian people are still referenced as 'BME'.

https://nation.cymru/news/calls-for-plaid-cymru-action-over-sahar-al-faifi-after-tweet-linking-us-police-violence-with-israel/

 

A useful guide.

https://civilservice.blog.gov.uk/2019/07/08/please-dont-call-me-bame-or-bme/

 

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18 minutes ago, Roger_Mellie said:

Yes, and just as priveledged as the Duke of Westminster. 

Funny though, isn't it? The prevailing Liberal philosophy makes no distinction between rich and poor... Its almost like the kind of Marxism rich capitalists could get behind:ph34r:

That's a good point which I hadn't considered before.

I assumed it was just that bammies/wimmin/trannies etc were a handy replacement victim group for 'the proletariat' in neo-Marxism, but the fact that none of the new victim groups is specifically defined by income is interesting.

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4 minutes ago, Austin Allegro said:

That's a good point which I hadn't considered before.

I assumed it was just that bammies/wimmin/trannies etc were a handy replacement victim group for 'the proletariat' in neo-Marxism, but the fact that none of the new victim groups is specifically defined by income is interesting.

Isn't it just?

A couple of years back I wanted to gen up on the oppression hierarchy and the actual theory of oppressed identity, so I did some reading of academic review type papers on the subject and it was specifically stated that class is not a valid identity label within the framework.

Which is very convenient for rich people and monarchs. 

Edit to add: also very convenient for middle class white folk and champagne socialists. When you get this point everything else falls into place. Or it did for me. 

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14 minutes ago, whitevanman said:

I’ve noticed recently that some homosexuals have started referring to themselves as ‘gay’

I doubt it will catch on

Agreed.

In the highly unlikely event that I ever fancied a ride on the other bus, I would then refer to myself as being a poof...!

And probably mince around in my pyjamas all day, talking like Noel Coward....

 

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