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Carry On Covid: No one is going on a nice foreign holiday again


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2 minutes ago, ad_ceng said:

We are fucked if were face a serious threat, the kidults cannot handle life

This is a married man with a good job and a young kid.

I get the impression he's not even getting out for a wee walk every day. And hasn't been for months. How fucking bad for your health is that.

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1 hour ago, Kilham said:

I assume not all crowded foreign destinations will be off the list though?.

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Not off the list, but definitely curtailed. 

Nice to see them celebrating Pride Month this year.

 

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20 minutes ago, JoeDavola said:

Forget anything as adventerous as holidays, a mate mentioned yesterday that he's 'rarely leaving the house' and has no intention on doing so until 'the cure' is found.

Fucking crazy if you ask me but there ya go.


Maybe he's actually one of those people who hates most other humans.

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8 minutes ago, sarahbell said:

Maybe he's actually one of those people who hates most other humans.

Heck I'm one of those people but it doesn't stop me getting out for a wee walk every day :D

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Just now, JoeDavola said:

Heck I'm one of those people but it doesn't stop me getting out for a wee walk every day :D

If he's stopped going out entirely (and doesn't spend half the day in his garden) then I'd agree he has issues. But maybe he's got a home gym?

I do think the hours exercise people got at the start of lockdown was amazing. Never seen so many people walking! 

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2 minutes ago, sarahbell said:

If he's stopped going out entirely (and doesn't spend half the day in his garden) then I'd agree he has issues. But maybe he's got a home gym?

I do think the hours exercise people got at the start of lockdown was amazing. Never seen so many people walking! 

Nah, no home gym. Home gin maybe. Works long hours from home. AFAIK he's been like this since the start of the lockdown.

Just seems odd to me even if you're sat in the garden to be getting practically no physical activity from one day week month to the next.

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Just now, JoeDavola said:

Nah, no home gym. Home gin maybe. Works long hours. AFAIK he's been like this since the start of the lockdown.

Just seems odd to me even if you're sat in the garden to be getting practically no physical activity from one day week month to the next.

Govt needs to get on and reinforce the exercise need too then.

 

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38 minutes ago, JoeDavola said:

This is a married man with a good job and a young kid.

I get the impression he's not even getting out for a wee walk every day. And hasn't been for months. How fucking bad for your health is that.

The government is really creating massive health issues going forward

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1 hour ago, JoeDavola said:

Nah, no home gym. Home gin maybe. Works long hours from home. AFAIK he's been like this since the start of the lockdown.

Just seems odd to me even if you're sat in the garden to be getting practically no physical activity from one day week month to the next.

That's effectively how I've been. Ballooned in weight since March (of course, thinking that I innocuously broke my foot at the beginning of April and being scared off visiting a hospital didn't help). 

Start a new role on Monday (nice 30min walk commute each way to the office) and my Wife and daughter are off to visit the in-laws on thursday for two weeks so I'll be trying to make up for lost time by going for some scenic walks every evening. 

Now that I don't have to worry about being under the same roof as my 70+ yo parents any more, my risk analysis has moved from "don't kill them!" to "enough of this shit!". 

Obviously I'll still be taking reasonable measures. I'll just be using my own common sense to determine what those are. 

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1 hour ago, ad_ceng said:

The government is really creating massive health issues going forward

I've been trying to get games of football to try to regain some fitness but there just aren't any. 

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4 hours ago, Dogtania said:

Maybe different this time but always thought things that keep others away can be a blessing... For example I wish I had visited the pyramids after a few of the bomb attacks probably have the place to yourself.

Equally depending on where your going I think it would be fine with precaution... The virus seems to be everywhere now, especially the UK although doesn't seem Was meant to be in Botsaw to be affecting many in my vicinity (ie I can see many people getting put off visiting the UK but in reality it isn't bad right now).

Stay healthy and all but I'm almost inclined to say get your tickets when you still and enjoy.

yes, I'd be happy about traveling and staying personally safe

It's juts the countries win't let me in. Was meant to be in Botswana next month. Kind or wrok related + holiday. Looking for alternatives and all have closed borders.

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10 minutes ago, Hopeful said:

yes, I'd be happy about traveling and staying personally safe

It's juts the countries win't let me in. Was meant to be in Botswana next month. Kind or wrok related + holiday. Looking for alternatives and all have closed borders.

Sorry to hear, I wasn't aware but it had definitely crossed my mind about potential trips that are always just on the horizon if I pulled my finger out for SA.

Definitely can understand from their perspective but would guess for a lot of similar countries it will change soon with the drop in cashflow being the principle reason for a u-turn.  Just be poised to act as that's what I'd expect.

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4 hours ago, Dogtania said:

A guy at my work is notorious for this.  He's not got a mortgage or kids which helps but always gets the premium package extra leg room on the flight etc.  He's rescheduled this year to next (he only pays cash crazy) I was saying surely it would be better getting a refund in case another company goes down.

Same guy with a private reg on his tiny car that up until recently he would replace every 18 months or so (tiny underpowered but always had the extras).  The guy must be a dream job for any salesmen.  I remember telling him to use his Tesco points as vouchers at pizza express or something rather than at the till... He wouldn't want to be seen in that light of looking for discounts etc so would never be able to (seemed to see it as shameful, I'm the opposite it's shameful not to 😂)

If you either accept vouchers or reschedule the same trip, are you still covered [sec 75 / chargeback] by your cc company if the holiday company goes down?

I am guessing yes for the reschedule but they could argue not for the vouchers. Haven't seen this discussed and it should be.

Alternative is take the refund and book the new trip on the cc = definitely covered and the protection is much better than insurance who will sometimes try to get away with saying not covered.

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2 minutes ago, BWW said:

If you either accept vouchers or reschedule the same trip, are you still covered [sec 75 / chargeback] by your cc company if the holiday company goes down?

I am guessing yes for the reschedule but they could argue not for the vouchers. Haven't seen this discussed and it should be.

Alternative is take the refund and book the new trip on the cc = definitely covered and the protection is much better than insurance who will sometimes try to get away with saying not covered.

You weren't until last week when .gov saw this as a problem and I believe they have now underwritten all credit vouchers.

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21 minutes ago, BWW said:

If you either accept vouchers or reschedule the same trip, are you still covered [sec 75 / chargeback] by your cc company if the holiday company goes down?

I am guessing yes for the reschedule but they could argue not for the vouchers. Haven't seen this discussed and it should be.

Alternative is take the refund and book the new trip on the cc = definitely covered and the protection is much better than insurance who will sometimes try to get away with saying not covered.

But he pays in cash 😅

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eta-carinae
19 minutes ago, Wight Flight said:

You weren't until last week when .gov saw this as a problem and I believe they have now underwritten all credit vouchers.

But of course.

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Democorruptcy

Costa Rica aiming to cover the costs of tourists getting ill, forced state insurance!

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Costa Rica has become a much more expensive destination for foreign tourists starting August 1, when the country reopens its air borders.

The cost of travel to Costa Rica has become more expensive due to the requirement that international tourists, starting this Saturday, must provide a negative COVID-19 PCR test result and purchase travel insurance provided by the State insurer, to cover medical expenses and lodging in case of developing or contracting the COVID-19 during their stay.

The cost of the Instituto National Seguros (INS) policy is depending on age and their length of stay. Charges for this policy can range from US$275 for minors, to more than US$965 for people over 70, for a two-week stay.

https://qcostarica.com/expensive-insurance-policy-and-covid-19-test-increase-the-cost-of-traveling-to-costa-rica/

 

 

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6 hours ago, SNACR said:

Anywhere you can get back to Calais overland, if push came to shove, will be fine I reckon there’s no realistic prospect of then shutting the ferries or tunnel but I don’t think grounding all flights is out of the question. 

As a last resort you could drive to Calais, buy a rubber dinghy and paddle a few yards offshore. Quick call to the RNLI, and then they will come and take you back home. Might have to black up though...

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45 minutes ago, Democorruptcy said:

Costa Rica aiming to cover the costs of tourists getting ill, forced state insurance!

 

Lets do some quick maths - someone please correct the est %s

Chance of covid-pos person needing hospitalisation 5% ?

Average cost insurance 500 usd

Available per hospitalisation 10.000 USD.

That would be if you selected only a group who were covid-pos.

Average pos rate of untested incoming tourists 0.1%  [rate of infection in population as a whole]?

Available per hospitalisation 10M USD.

Pre selecting a group who have tested negative ...........

Ker-ching IF anyone actually visits.

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3 minutes ago, Popuplights said:

As a last resort you could drive to Calais, buy a rubber dinghy and paddle a few yards offshore. Quick call to the RNLI, and then they will come and take you back home. Might have to black up though...

Not sure that SNACR will see the humour in that post...

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2 hours ago, The Generation Game said:

That's effectively how I've been. Ballooned in weight since March (of course, thinking that I innocuously broke my foot at the beginning of April and being scared off visiting a hospital didn't help). 

Start a new role on Monday (nice 30min walk commute each way to the office) and my Wife and daughter are off to visit the in-laws on thursday for two weeks so I'll be trying to make up for lost time by going for some scenic walks every evening. 

Now that I don't have to worry about being under the same roof as my 70+ yo parents any more, my risk analysis has moved from "don't kill them!" to "enough of this shit!". 

Obviously I'll still be taking reasonable measures. I'll just be using my own common sense to determine what those are. 

Hope you are on the mend and the weight starts to move in the right direction.

I'm lucky I don't have a weakness for booze or junk food i.e. neither are typically in the flat, as it would be easy just to sit and rot, especially if you are by yourself and have no 'reason' to leave the house. I am unfortunately getting gruadually lazier as time goes on, exercising less than I did say 2 or 3 months ago, and the weather's been darker and wetter recenly which hasn't helped.

Had a couple of instances of the last week of being really fucked off with it all.

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14 minutes ago, BWW said:

Lets do some quick maths - someone please correct the est %s

Chance of covid-pos person needing hospitalisation 5% ?

Average cost insurance 500 usd

Available per hospitalisation 10.000 USD.

 


Is that just for an overnight stay?

https://www.healthcare.gov/why-coverage-is-important/protection-from-high-medical-costs/
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14 minutes ago, JoeDavola said:

Hope you are on the mend and the weight starts to move in the right direction.

I'm lucky I don't have a weakness for booze or junk food i.e. neither are typically in the flat, as it would be easy just to sit and rot, especially if you are by yourself and have no 'reason' to leave the house. I am unfortunately getting gruadually lazier as time goes on, exercising less than I did say 2 or 3 months ago, and the weather's been darker and wetter recenly which hasn't helped.

Had a couple of instances of the last week of being really fucked off with it all.

Got a long way to go yet, probably several more years. 

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I've heard Leicester's nice for a citybreak...

IMO it's all about control now. Most people are in a state of mass hysteria and a few people in the 1% and government have realised they can use this as a mass social experimentation chamber, just like the socialists used WW2 in the UK for similar ends.

They've realised they can introduce social controls/compliance on a level not seen since WW2 and they are getting drunk on the sense of power.

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