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Carry On Covid: No one is going on a nice foreign holiday again


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4 hours ago, JoeDavola said:

Heck I'm one of those people but it doesn't stop me getting out for a wee walk every day :D

 

Is the bathroom out of action ?

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3 minutes ago, Rare Bear said:

Didn't the US buy it from someone or was that just Louisiana?

The United States acquired Florida from Spain with the Onís-Adams Treaty of 1819

Minister Onís and Secretary Adams reached an agreement whereby Spain ceded East Florida to the United States and renounced all claim to West Florida. Spain received no compensation, but the United States agreed to assume liability for $5 million in damage done by American citizens who rebelled against Spain

https://dailyhistory.org/How_did_the_United_States_acquire_Florida%3F#:~:text=The United States acquired Florida,Onís-Adams Treaty of 1819&text=Under the Onís-Adams Treaty,claims to the Pacific Northwest.

Not to be confused with www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/persons/517535/517535_...

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17 minutes ago, Austin Allegro said:

I've heard Leicester's nice for a citybreak...

IMO it's all about control now. Most people are in a state of mass hysteria and a few people in the 1% and government have realised they can use this as a mass social experimentation chamber, just like the socialists used WW2 in the UK for similar ends.

They've realised they can introduce social controls/compliance on a level not seen since WW2 and they are getting drunk on the sense of power.

The thing that I can't fathom is that the numbers and indeed the virus itself just aren't that scary.

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I wonder what all the boomers and rich pensioners will spend their money on if they can't go on their cruises and tours? And how much insurance will increase for such individuals who still intend to go on foreign holidays. I can imagine that the insurance premiums alone will be considerable. 

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5 hours ago, JoeDavola said:

Forget anything as adventerous as holidays, a mate mentioned yesterday that he's 'rarely leaving the house' and has no intention on doing so until 'the cure' is found.

Fucking crazy if you ask me but there ya go.

A good mate of mine and I are planning to go to Amsterdam this year for a few days, at some point but don't want to get caught up with any covid hysteria. He is even more cynical than I am about it all. 

While I found Amsterdam to be a bit too busy when I went last year, I'm worried it's going to be dead if we go any time this year, which is even worse. There's no point going if you can't squash into the old town and ogle the tarts in the red windows imo, it's all in part of the experience. 

Not sure why I'm quoting you Joe, just wondered if anyone thought (assuming no so called second wave materialises there) if it's realistic to expect to go at the moment. We were thinking end of September.

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7 minutes ago, HolyCow said:

I wonder what all the boomers and rich pensioners will spend their money on if they can't go on their cruises and tours? And how much insurance will increase for such individuals who still intend to go on foreign holidays. I can imagine that the insurance premiums alone will be considerable. 

Yes indeed, it was expensive for oldies with pre exisiting medical conditions prior to all this. 

It's a win win situation all round! xD

They got all the money then became trapped in Britain and never got to sail off into the sunset  

xD

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3 minutes ago, spunko said:

A good mate of mine and I are planning to go to Amsterdam this year for a few days, at some point but don't want to get caught up with any covid hysteria. He is even more cynical than I am about it all. 

While I found Amsterdam to be a bit too busy when I went last year, I'm worried it's going to be dead if we go any time this year, which is even worse. There's no point going if you can't squash into the old town and ogle the tarts in the red windows imo, it's all in part of the experience. 

Not sure why I'm quoting you Joe, just wondered if anyone thought (assuming no so called second wave materialises there) if it's realistic to expect to go at the moment. We were thinking end of September.

Apparently the coffeshops and red light are rammed with partygoers and plod are thinking of closing it down again. 

It was on the news last week

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13 minutes ago, HolyCow said:

I wonder what all the boomers and rich pensioners will spend their money on if they can't go on their cruises and tours? And how much insurance will increase for such individuals who still intend to go on foreign holidays. I can imagine that the insurance premiums alone will be considerable. 

That's maybe the market to get into. Work out what they will be buying instead.

I know someone who's bought a mobile caravan since lockdown and have been out in it several times. Another family have just bought a static at the coast. 

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7 minutes ago, spunko said:

A good mate of mine and I are planning to go to Amsterdam this year for a few days, at some point but don't want to get caught up with any covid hysteria. He is even more cynical than I am about it all. 

While I found Amsterdam to be a bit too busy when I went last year, I'm worried it's going to be dead if we go any time this year, which is even worse. There's no point going if you can't squash into the old town and ogle the tarts in the red windows imo, it's all in part of the experience. 

Not sure why I'm quoting you Joe, just wondered if anyone thought (assuming no so called second wave materialises there) if it's realistic to expect to go at the moment. We were thinking end of September.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/the-latest-australias-pm-cancels-next-parliament-sitting/2020/07/17/9795b5e8-c88e-11ea-a825-8722004e4150_story.html

They are saying stay away it is too busy (red light)

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8 minutes ago, spunko said:

A good mate of mine and I are planning to go to Amsterdam this year for a few days, at some point but don't want to get caught up with any covid hysteria. He is even more cynical than I am about it all. 

While I found Amsterdam to be a bit too busy when I went last year, I'm worried it's going to be dead if we go any time this year, which is even worse. There's no point going if you can't squash into the old town and ogle the tarts in the red windows imo, it's all in part of the experience. 

Not sure why I'm quoting you Joe, just wondered if anyone thought (assuming no so called second wave materialises there) if it's realistic to expect to go at the moment. We were thinking end of September.


I wouldn’t risk my money booking a foreign holiday this side of Christmas. Not because of actual covid danger but ever changing government laws.

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3 minutes ago, spunko said:

A good mate of mine and I are planning to go to Amsterdam this year for a few days, at some point but don't want to get caught up with any covid hysteria. He is even more cynical than I am about it all. 

While I found Amsterdam to be a bit too busy when I went last year, I'm worried it's going to be dead if we go any time this year, which is even worse. There's no point going if you can't squash into the old town and ogle the tarts in the red windows imo, it's all in part of the experience. 

Not sure why I'm quoting you Joe, just wondered if anyone thought (assuming no so called second wave materialises there) if it's realistic to expect to go at the moment. We were thinking end of September.

 

The red light district in AMS re-opened on July 1st but there is a strict no kissing policy - so you and your mate will just have to hold hands.

According to the warlock hippy guy on YouTube, broadcasting on the second US civil war live from Amsterdam, he says that Amsterdam is functioning pretty normally at the moment. Plenty of people out and about. Few masks and life getting on as normal. He probably fits in there more than he does back in Vermont.

Oh, sex workers in the red light district must now wear latex gloves and masks - so no change there then.

 

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4 minutes ago, sarahbell said:

That's maybe the market to get into. Work out what they will be buying instead.

I know someone who's bought a mobile caravan since lockdown and have been out in it several times. Another family have just bought a static at the coast. 

 

There's a rich guy I know in the US who made his fortune on the stockmarket following the chart of just one stock - Winnebago RV motor-homes.

He says that when that stock is going up the general markets go up. When it tops and begins heading down then look out generally.

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5 minutes ago, The Masked Tulip said:

 

The red light district in AMS re-opened on July 1st but there is a strict no kissing policy - so you and your mate will just have to hold hands.

According to the warlock hippy guy on YouTube, broadcasting on the second US civil war live from Amsterdam, he says that Amsterdam is functioning pretty normally at the moment. Plenty of people out and about. Few masks and life getting on as normal. He probably fits in there more than he does back in Vermont.

Oh, sex workers in the red light district must now wear latex gloves and masks - so no change there then.

 

I don't think I'd go for the sex worker thing anyway, but it'd just be weird seeing them posing in the windows in underwear and a mask. Like something out of a nihilistic sci-fi movie.

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7 minutes ago, The Masked Tulip said:

 

There's a rich guy I know in the US who made his fortune on the stockmarket following the chart of just one stock - Winnebago RV motor-homes.

He says that when that stock is going up the general markets go up. When it tops and begins heading down then look out generally.

Has he written about this publically? Be interested to read more about his thinking.

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4 minutes ago, spunko said:

I don't think I'd go for the sex worker thing anyway, but it'd just be weird seeing them posing in the windows in underwear and a mask. Like something out of a nihilistic sci-fi movie.

 

The red light district used to be highly regulated with the Dutch boasting that sex workers involved willingly did so and were the main financial beneficiaries of their work. That changed in the past 20 years and there are now some very nasty allegations about trafficking and foreign gangs controlling things. Sounds as if the Dutch have lost control.

But I found you a hotel.

https://www.thesuite.amsterdam/en/

I find the everyday Dutch girls to be far to interesting and liberated to even think about the red light district.  

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5 minutes ago, JoeDavola said:

Has he written about this publically? Be interested to read more about his thinking.

 

No, not publicly. He posts his stuff on a private forum. 

It is very simple. When the US economy is booming people buy motor homes. When things are getting bad they stop buying. Thus it is a good leading indicator of how good or bad people feel about the markets. The next time he posts a chart I will send it to you if I can copy and paste it.

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2 minutes ago, The Masked Tulip said:

 

No, not publicly. He posts his stuff on a private forum. 

It is very simple. When the US economy is booming people buy motor homes. When things are getting bad they stop buying. Thus it is a good leading indicator of how good or bad people feel about the markets. The next time he posts a chart I will send it to you if I can copy and paste it.

Please do. Even better get me a membership for this private forum ;)

 

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25 minutes ago, The Masked Tulip said:

 

The red light district in AMS re-opened on July 1st but there is a strict no kissing policy - so you and your mate will just have to hold hands.

According to the warlock hippy guy on YouTube, broadcasting on the second US civil war live from Amsterdam, he says that Amsterdam is functioning pretty normally at the moment. Plenty of people out and about. Few masks and life getting on as normal. He probably fits in there more than he does back in Vermont.

Oh, sex workers in the red light district must now wear latex gloves and masks - so no change there then.

 

But fucking is presumably OK?

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30 minutes ago, JoeDavola said:


I wouldn’t risk my money booking a foreign holiday this side of Christmas. Not because of actual covid danger but ever changing government laws.

Free cancellation accommodation until day before and flights refunded if they cancel on you. And they are cheap. Little risk imo. 

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3 minutes ago, ccc said:

Free cancellation accommodation until day before and flights refunded if they cancel on you. And they are cheap. Little risk imo. 

How's the quarantine going? :D 

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1 hour ago, Option5 said:

Well it is a foreign country now.

When I first went to India in the late 90s a friend said to me 'why not just go to Acton?'

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3 minutes ago, ccc said:

Free cancellation accommodation until day before and flights refunded if they cancel on you. And they are cheap. Little risk imo. 

I’d be more concerned about or govt suddenly spazzing out and changing the rules while I was on my holidays, making it a nightmare to get back.

I’m not desperate enough to get away to take on that risk / hassle. I appreciate it won’t bother some folk.

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