The face of FGM 2017

[spygirl 5,243]

 

Oh my fucking god!

 

[onlyme 1,857]

Tell me that isn't a spoof. 

[spygirl 5,243]

Just now, onlyme said:

Tell me that isn't a spoof. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4773460/Barnardo-s-fire-using-white-girl-FGM-campaign.html

'The charity said: 'FGM doesn’t affect just one community or religion. Regardless, we’re sorry for any upset caused. We value constructive & robust feedback'. '

Apparently.

[Turned Out Nice Again 1,040]

Just fkn ridiculous!

Rather like the context-free police talks delivered at my 13 yo daughter's (girl's) school on the dangers of radicalisation and grooming. My suggestion that the former might be more efficiently directed at the 3 girls in her year who come in wearing hoods didn't go down very well.

Edited August 9, 2017 by Turned Out Nice Again

[The Idiocrat 956]

Well that's another charity on my "banned" list. 

[Hopeful 2,920]

No such thing as bad publicity

 

 

(it seems to have highlighted an issue, nicely)

 

Edited August 9, 2017 by Hopeful

[Dipsy 1,313]

According to Barnados 1236 cases of FGM were recorded between Jan and March this year - tell us how many white girls were in that number then! To be honest I'm not sure of the point of this campaign anyway regardless of the ethnicity of the girl - how many people have been charged with either practicing FGM or aiding and abetting - none is my guess. Another charity to add to the shit list, backs my stand of only supporting local charities.

[One percent 11,783]

Apparently not one person has been prosecuted for allowing fgm on a child.  This is even though it is against the law. 

Meaningless twaddle

[Dipsy 1,313]

1 minute ago, One percent said:

Apparently not one person has been prosecuted for allowing fgm on a child.  This is even though it is against the law. 

Meaningless twaddle

As I thought. I hope the charity trustees are pleased with the wasted money on this campaign - it's going to cost them in contributions as well.

[swissy_fit 3,342]

2 minutes ago, One percent said:

Apparently not one person has been prosecuted for allowing fgm on a child.  This is even though it is against the law. 

Meaningless twaddle

Why not? Child abuse of other forms is prosecuted. There needs to be a landmark case to get it started and set precedent.

[One percent 11,783]

3 minutes ago, Dipsy said:

As I thought. I hope the charity trustees are pleased with the wasted money on this campaign - it's going to cost them in contributions as well.

The UN classes it as child abuse (which of course it is)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-36805117

 

[One percent 11,783]

3 minutes ago, swissy_fit said:

Why not? Child abuse of other forms is prosecuted. There needs to be a landmark case to get it started and set precedent.

My daughter did here these on this (yeah I know) and my job was to proof read the thing, so know a little bit about it.  More than I need to really. 

for me, the main reason is that government have pushed responsibility down onto frontline staff in the NHS and schools. Individuals are then not trained to spot the signs, they are not supported and are frightened of being called out as racist.  Best for them and their career to turn a blind eye.  Unintended concequences of political correctness. 

[Dipsy 1,313]

I'm sure if it was 20k white girls a year there would have been prosecutions. What about MGM, if there's no medical reason to do it surely that's also abuse?

[One percent 11,783]

Just now, Dipsy said:

I'm sure if it was 20k white girls a year there would have been prosecutions. What about MGM, if there's no medical reason to do it surely that's also abuse?

Agree but fgm causes life changing problems for many women in all sorts of ways that do not bare thinking about 

[spygirl 5,243]

2 minutes ago, Dipsy said:

I'm sure if it was 20k white girls a year there would have been prosecutions. What about MGM, if there's no medical reason to do it surely that's also abuse?

Nope. Rotherham shows beign ethnic trumps criminal responsibility.

[Dipsy 1,313]

Just now, One percent said:

Agree but fgm causes life changing problems for many women in all sorts of ways that do not bare thinking about 

You are right - the consequences are more severe, but it would help if all kinds of removing parts of children's sexual organs was made illegal.

[swissy_fit 3,342]

9 minutes ago, One percent said:

My daughter did here these on this (yeah I know) and my job was to proof read the thing, so know a little bit about it.  More than I need to really. 

for me, the main reason is that government have pushed responsibility down onto frontline staff in the NHS and schools. Individuals are then not trained to spot the signs, they are not supported and are frightened of being called out as racist.  Best for them and their career to turn a blind eye.  Unintended concequences of political correctness. 

A case for government intervention IMO. Task someone with finding an appropriate cut and dried easily proved case and prosecuting it successfully. Big media furore, precedent is set, other cases would follow, some deterrence would be generated.

Edited August 9, 2017 by swissy_fit

[This Time 1,412]

22 minutes ago, One percent said:

Apparently not one person has been prosecuted for allowing fgm on a child.  This is even though it is against the law. 

Meaningless twaddle

They did try to prosecute a doctor who repaired a tear post childbirth on a woman who had FGM.

[davidg 1,545]

28 minutes ago, Dipsy said:

According to Barnados 1236 cases of FGM were recorded between Jan and March this year - tell us how many white girls were in that number then!

I can help you there, zero.

[One percent 11,783]

9 minutes ago, swissy_fit said:

A case for government intervention IMO. Task someone with finding an appropriate cut and dried easily proved case and prosecuting it successfully. Big media furore, precedent is set, other cases would follow, some deterrence would be generated.

There is also a concept called cultural relativism.  This goes along the lines of each culture is different and we need to respect the varying cultural practices of others.  It is imperialist to think we can impose our views and values onto others.

the establishment have really tied themselves in knots with their newspeak and groupthink approach. 

[Sgt Hartman 4,337]

1 hour ago, spygirl said:

 

Oh my fucking god!

 

The stupidity and 'tread carefully' nature of using a white girl aside, there is something about the tone of that which really, really doesn't sit comfortably with me at all.

I think it's the "particularly prevalant during school holidays" bit that is bothering me. It makes it sound like a preventable case of sunburn or chicken-pox rather than an utterly medieval, barbaric and fucked-up practise that has absolutely no place in any civilised society.

I think that is genuinely one of the worst things I've ever seen.

[One percent 11,783]

8 minutes ago, Sgt Hartman said:

The stupidity and 'tread carefully' nature of using a white girl aside, there is something about the tone of that which really, really doesn't sit comfortably with me at all.

I think it's the "particularly prevalant during school holidays" bit that is bothering me. It makes it sound like a preventable case of sunburn or chicken-pox rather than an utterly medieval, barbaric and fucked-up practise that has absolutely no place in any civilised society.

I think that is genuinely one of the worst things I've ever seen.

And that is exactly  why it is not being dealt with. It needs dragging into the light and shown for what it is.  As you say, utterly medieval and barbaric. 

[Hail the Tripod 2,513]

I just cancelled my standing order to Barnados. That is all three national charities that I have been donating to for years cut off in the last few months for behaviour that I found abhorrent. Local charities only from now on, and the more local the better.

[swissy_fit 3,342]

I don't know if Kosovar Muslims practice FGM (don't think so) but they are white, so the idea of a white girl being at risk isn't impossible. 

However it's hardly the norm iand therefore obviously inappropriate, they presumably did it on purpose to attract attention.

[MrPin 2,452]

That poor girl has very large ears!