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The French President called on the EU to throw its weight behind Belarusians demanding that their liberties be respected

https://www.rt.com/news/498178-macron-belarus-yellow-vests/

Dangerous stuff.  They're getting bolder with these Colour Coups, this one is bold.  Word is, Poland is also shit stirring here.  Why can't Poland learn its lesson and stop sending agitators into its militarily superior neighbours to start shit?

I mean, America is finished.  Yet Poland keeps flinging shit at Russia from behind America's legs, don't they realize that when America implodes, Russia will call Poland's bluff?  You'd think this would be obvious.

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I've seen a few of the "Bald and Bankrupt" YouTuber's videos in Byeolrussia and the average person is on their knees because of the corruption of the government.  Old age pensions are tiny and the infrastructure is mostly Soviet-era and collapsing.

It is a country where the average person has very little to lose and much to gain from ejecting a deeply corrupt government.

It has the cheapest hotel rooms, drink and food in Europe if anyone fancies a trip; this is because the people are so universally poor.

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1 hour ago, ElKapitan84 said:

https://www.rt.com/news/498178-macron-belarus-yellow-vests/

Dangerous stuff.  They're getting bolder with these Colour Coups, this one is bold.  Word is, Poland is also shit stirring here.  Why can't Poland learn its lesson and stop sending agitators into its militarily superior neighbours to start shit?

I mean, America is finished.  Yet Poland keeps flinging shit at Russia from behind America's legs, don't they realize that when America implodes, Russia will call Poland's bluff?  You'd think this would be obvious.

Poland pokes Russia.

Russia pokes Poland and the other Baltic countries.

Unless Russia wants to throw some nukes then its chances of any successful military adventure West of Ukraine is 0%

As it stands, Russia is grumpy about the Balkans. Russia considers Ukraine, Belorussia as no-go for the NATO. This wont change for the forseeable future.

NATO will continue having lots of training in the Balkans . Kit will be left their, accidentally. There will be no NATO base there but there might be a permanentent training presence at multiple sites.

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1 hour ago, Frank Hovis said:

I've seen a few of the "Bald and Bankrupt" YouTuber's videos in Byeolrussia and the average person is on their knees because of the corruption of the government.  Old age pensions are tiny and the infrastructure is mostly Soviet-era and collapsing.

It is a country where the average person has very little to lose and much to gain from ejecting a deeply corrupt government.

It has the cheapest hotel rooms, drink and food in Europe if anyone fancies a trip; this is because the people are so universally poor.

Belarus pretty high up on the Sexpat holiday destinations

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2 hours ago, Frank Hovis said:

I've seen a few of the "Bald and Bankrupt" YouTuber's videos in Byeolrussia and the average person is on their knees because of the corruption of the government.  Old age pensions are tiny and the infrastructure is mostly Soviet-era and collapsing.

It is a country where the average person has very little to lose and much to gain from ejecting a deeply corrupt government.

It has the cheapest hotel rooms, drink and food in Europe if anyone fancies a trip; this is because the people are so universally poor.

I'm guessing @ccc would go and have a gander, but only if @WorkingPoor went with him. 

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33 minutes ago, spygirl said:

Poland pokes Russia.

Russia pokes Poland and the other Baltic countries.

Unless Russia wants to throw some nukes then its chances of any successful military adventure West of Ukraine is 0%

As it stands, Russia is grumpy about the Balkans. Russia considers Ukraine, Belorussia as no-go for the NATO. This wont change for the forseeable future.

NATO will continue having lots of training in the Balkans . Kit will be left their, accidentally. There will be no NATO base there but there might be a permanentent training presence at multiple sites.

Not that it would come to it, but the comms disparity alone between Russia/West Ukraine military (analogue vs. digitally encrypted) would see Putin in Kiev in 20 days.

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37 minutes ago, spygirl said:

Unless Russia wants to throw some nukes then its chances of any successful military adventure West of Ukraine is 0%

NATO simulations and war games show that if it wanted to Russia could sweep through all of Eastern Europe and beyond in weeks. NATO couldn't stop it and the US reinforcements required wouldn't be able to reach Europe either in time or at all.

I think other research estimated that 1 Russian Division was the equal of 3 NATO divisions - purely because the Russian one is entirely homogenous and has absolute clarity of command and purpose, whereas the NATO ones are disparate and based on an unclear command structure and motivation.

Advancements made by Russia in the field of Electronic warfare and air/missile defence also pose significant issues for NATO equipment and operating procedures.

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Just now, Errol said:

Belarus has as far deeper connection to Russia than Ukraine did. It's also of strategic importance to Russia.

I await the Kremlin's move. The silence coming from that quarter suggests that something is afoot.

I don't know why they just don't reunite and make Belarus an autonomous republic. 

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Just now, Errol said:

NATO simulations and war games show that if it wanted to Russia could sweep through all of Eastern Europe and beyond in weeks. NATO couldn't stop it and the US reinforcements required wouldn't be able to reach Europe either in time or at all.

I'd have previous disagreed but having read recently that Germany has about 4 serviceable Eurofighters I'm inclined to agree. 

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Of course the fact is that Russia has zero interest in taking Eastern Europe or further afield. NATO is just a construct designed to prevent peace in Europe (as the US defence Secretary noted in a recent freudian slip - see video below).

 

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The Saker's view of this is as follows:

 

Right now the Empire is basically reusing the “Ukrainian textbook” on Belarus.  All we miss is Nuland handing out bagels to rioters.

I can all repeat that left by itself Belarus will never be able to withstand the combined forces of the Empire, at least not in the long term.  A full return to Russia is the one and only possible option for Belarus to be free.

http://thesaker.is/european-leaders-bring-flowers-to-honor-a-belarusian-terrorist/

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39 minutes ago, reformed nice guy said:

The BBC dont seem to mention that the dictator is a left wing socialist dictator....

As with the "Arab Spring" all the BBC reporters are creaming themselves by the fulfillment of their student revolutionary fantasies.  They absolutely love "popular uprisings".

They, like Wordsworth, would have loved the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution and so on.

That each meant mass murder and chaos mattered not one not to them as long as they could cheer the mob storming the Presidential Palace and pulling down the statues.

Their reporting on Byelorussia leaves you in no doubt that they are desperate for yet another popular uprising and accompanying bloodbath.

They are twisted inside.

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5 hours ago, ElKapitan84 said:

https://www.rt.com/news/498178-macron-belarus-yellow-vests/

Dangerous stuff.  They're getting bolder with these Colour Coups, this one is bold.  Word is, Poland is also shit stirring here.  Why can't Poland learn its lesson and stop sending agitators into its militarily superior neighbours to start shit?

I mean, America is finished.  Yet Poland keeps flinging shit at Russia from behind America's legs, don't they realize that when America implodes, Russia will call Poland's bluff?  You'd think this would be obvious.

Poland has an interest due to the Polish minorities that live in the pre war Polish cities of Grodno and Brzesc that have been persecuted by Lukashenko's regime.

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