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Fucking over EBay?


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Ebay are a truly shit company if you think about it from a corporate standpoint. They have one of the most used websites in the world, billions in cash just sitting there, and what have they done with

I used to do this a lot.  I added a Make Offer button and would just blanket decline with 'You can find this cheaper on our website'. eBay wrote to me after a year with a list of message IDs

Don't send any comms through ebay. They will scan for post codes, telephone nos, and email addresses, as well as "let's meet at The Horse and Jockey at 6pm" etc and give you a strike or outright ban.

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2 minutes ago, Great Guy said:

Anyone contacted a seller and bought an item privately? A seller pays eBay 10% when something sells? It's a fair amount of money.....

 

Depends on the seller. If they are a one-off seller then they might be up for it. Ebay bans people who try to bypass them so regular sellers will probably not be interested.

There are a few ebay sellers on here. No doubt they will jump in with their wisdom.

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1 minute ago, Iamcynical said:

It's not.  A hell of a lot of stuff is 'buy it now'.  Ebay is simply the shop window.

It's certainly changed over the years. It should make a distiction between a private sale and a business. I don't go there much any more.

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Most private sellers wait for the £1 FVF offers, particularly on higher priced items.  But it’s always worth shot, they may have multiples of the same item and may do a discount for collection / reduce shipping costs. They will, however, expect cash.  

So, the simple way to avoid ebays wrath is to ask if there is a discount for cash on collection. It’s their choice on how you buy it after that. 
 

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More likely eBay will fuck you over. 

I put an item on eBay that was worth ~£1,500 and the price was bid up to nearly £2,500 after I refused to sell outside of the auction. The highest bidder had no feedback or purchases and I knew this was the retaliation of the same person so ended the auction early stating the item was no longer for sale. eBay unkindly accused me of selling the item privately to this person and used his solicitation to do business via  inbox as evidence inspite of the fact my reply was a resounding no and that I'd rather the auction just ran and to wish him good luck. The kick in the teeth was that ebay charged me selling fees based on the inflated price and that was the last time I ever used ebay.

PayPal is linked to ebay and they've locked that account too. I can receive money but it is put into PayPal prison for upto 6 months. I now use banking international payments and trust the people I'm selling too, most of the stuff I sell is specialist so does not attract scammers.

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15 minutes ago, honkydonkey said:

10% is a piss take imho. I've ended auctions and sold direct and avoided this, it's difficult to send contact info as the message system blocks it but you can get a little creative.

Yeah, I'd imagine ebay scans for "@" in emails. However "at" is a bit more subtle.

Has ebay ever pulled you up?

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9 minutes ago, MrPin said:

So, is there another auction site, better than EBay?

I sell through facebook now. Always keenly price stuff so there's lots of interest and it doesn't wait around. Surprising nearly all the stuff I do sell ends up in Germany.

4 minutes ago, Great Guy said:

Yeah, I'd imagine ebay scans for "@" in emails. However "at" is a bit more subtle.

Has ebay ever pulled you up?

The person who tried to solicit me to do business outside of the auction sent me photo of his phone number written down on a post-it note which eBay had no problem picking up on.

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42 minutes ago, Great Guy said:

Anyone contacted a seller and bought an item privately? A seller pays eBay 10% when something sells? It's a fair amount of money.....

Don't send any comms through ebay. They will scan for post codes, telephone nos, and email addresses, as well as "let's meet at The Horse and Jockey at 6pm" etc and give you a strike or outright ban. Some sellers put a photo of their hand-written telephone number in, which you can ring. I suspect detection is automated, and diverted to a human for checking.

p.s. don't use PayPal to pay, either, since it isn't clear they aren't in collusion to detect 'outside of ebay completions'.

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7 minutes ago, MrPin said:

Facebook eh @longtomsilver? I am reluctant to sign up to the place.:(

Set-up an account and misspell your name so it's hard to find you and you've retained some anonymity. I can't stand social media and post maybe 2-3 things to my wall each year. It's not perfect but it does enable you to reach the right people by way of the groups you'd join with the same interests. No point advertising a Lexus to the blind bell ringers group but there is a Lexus UK owners club with 5.6k members and a wealth of knowledge to boot.

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49 minutes ago, Great Guy said:

 A seller pays eBay 10% when something sells? It's a fair amount of money.....

In fairness, it is less than most auction houses would charge, and ebay gets you exposed to a larger audience.

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7 minutes ago, Nippy said:

Don't send any comms through ebay. They will scan for post codes, telephone nos, and email addresses, as well as "let's meet at The Horse and Jockey at 6pm" etc and give you a strike or outright ban. Some sellers put a photo of their hand-written telephone number in, which you can ring. I suspect detection is automated, and diverted to a human for checking.

p.s. don't use PayPal to pay, either, since it isn't clear they aren't in collusion to detect 'outside of ebay completions'.

I suspect humans have little in the way to do with checking and it is mostly algorithms and for the ones trying to bypass the systems with jpegs Optical Character Recognition will come into play. Why pay someone when you can get a server to churn through the flagged auctions.

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1 minute ago, Nippy said:

In fairness, it is less than most auction houses would charge, and ebay gets you exposed to a larger audience.

I'd choose quality over quantity, it also exposes you to chancers and fraudsters. Again facebook Marketplace/selling pages you can get a better feel for the people you are selling too and even snoop at their profile.

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Just now, Nippy said:

In fairness, it is less than most auction houses would charge, and ebay gets you exposed to a larger audience.

I don’t really understand the criticism of ebay, It can be a bit of a pain at times, but it’s mostly fine.
I sell around £40k on ebay annually and the amount I lose through fraud is in the low hundreds.  
 

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7 minutes ago, Nippy said:

In fairness, it is less than most auction houses would charge, and ebay gets you exposed to a larger audience.

That's what I think. I have sold some obscure electrical items that would otherwise have ended up in a skip.

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