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Topless sunbathing no longer de rigeur in France


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The slide towards Islamism in France takes another tiny step. Burkinis for all by 2050?

Nice picture of the young Brigitte.

 

https://uk.yahoo.com/style/topless-sunbathing-fundamental-french-liberty-182016605.html

French fall out over their fundamental freedom to sunbathe topless

David Chazan
The Telegraph25 August 2020, 8:20 pm CEST
 
Brigitte Bardot popularised the ‘monokini’ - Bettmann
Brigitte Bardot popularised the ‘monokini’ - Bettmann

Topless sunbathing is a fundamental French “liberty”, the interior minister said on Tuesday after feminists, Right-wing nationalists and Leftists united in outrage that police ordered women on a beach to cover their breasts.

Critics accused the officers of undermining the French way of life after the case hit the headlines.

Far-Right politicians claimed that topless sunbathing, which was popular in France a generation ago but has fallen out of fashion, is now being banned under the influence of radical Islamists.

Gérald Darmanin, who as interior minister is in charge of the French police, tweeted that topless women should not be “reproached”.

“Liberty is a precious asset,” said Mr Darmanin, whose appointment last month provoked fury among feminists and women’s groups because he has been accused of rape. Mr Darmanin, 37, denies the allegations and has never been charged.

The police were forced to apologise for their “blunder” and “lack of tact” after Marie Hebrard, a holidaymaker, told a local television channel that she had witnessed two officers telling women to cover up on a beach in Sainte-Marie-la-Mer last Thursday.

Ms Hebrard said they “stopped to talk to a woman of about 60. We couldn’t hear what they said, but we saw the woman was agitated after they left, visibly upset and frantically looking in her bag for her bikini top.”

Ms Hebrard said she was shocked that the officers went on to approach other topless women.

“My feminist soul spoke out and I went to see them to ask if they thought that topless sunbathing was an offence against decency. They asked me to move on.”

The local police said in a statement that the officers had acted “following a request by a family of holidaymakers who were disturbed by the situation because children were present.”

Under French law, topless sunbathing is permitted on beaches unless prohibited by a local bylaw, which is not the case in Sainte-Marie-la-Mer.

Topless sunbathing became emblematic of France in the 1960s, when Brigitte Bardot popularised the ‘monokini’.

Feminists argued that peeling off was a woman’s right, drowning out family groups’ protests that exposed female nipples would scare children. The educated middle classes took pride that more prudish nations lacked the freedom to disrobe in public.

But most younger French women are now covering up in rebellion against the cult of the body beautiful. Modern feminism, they say, has new priorities.

Aurélien Taché, an MP from the governing République en Marche party, said the incident in Sainte-Marie-la-Mer was “shameful”.

“When will the state stop trying to give moral lessons, especially to women?” he said. “Everyone is free to dress or undress as they like.”

Opposition Socialist MPs expressed similar views and Jean Messiha, a senior figure in the far-Right National Rally, argued that the incident revealed a threat to the French national identity.

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Who cares if we don't know the facts...? I demand that a DOSBODS invent-igation of this matter takes place immediately...!   XYY

Yes fair comment, there's no direct islamist angle in this story. (though the question of who complained about the topless women is unanswered, I'd be astonished if it wasn't a Muslim but hey who know

I reckon it’ll be the immigrant, in a busy tourist hotspot with a welfare giro. And you won’t hear it on the BBC, well I won’t as I don’t pay their TV tax, as I’II have mentioned eleventy-billion

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Just now, Sucralose Ray Leonard said:

Judging by the increasing amount of land whales we have, that may be a good thing. 

Any part of the body subjected to  long term exposure to the sun eventually goes horribly wrinkly. Best not to think what some of the lard arses in the U.K. are going to look like in a few years

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1 hour ago, swiss_democracy_for_all said:

The local police said in a statement that the officers had acted “following a request by a family of holidaymakers who were disturbed by the situation because children were present.”

Under French law, topless sunbathing is permitted on beaches unless prohibited by a local bylaw, which is not the case in Sainte-Marie-la-Mer.

Sounds like a case of the police on the ground not knowing the laws they are meant to be enforcing and not bothering to call up a superior to check before acting. Inadequate training and lack of communication between front line workers and management. See also bobbies on the beat helping landlords to carry out illegal evictions in the UK.

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Wouldn't it be great if ground zero was feminists getting militant over their right to get their threpnies out in public?

If there's one cause absolutely guaranteed to unite the sexes...

How long before 21st century feminists libtards are declaring toplessness to be unfeminist? I give it 5, 4, 3, 2....

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6 minutes ago, Roger_Mellie said:

Wouldn't it be great if ground zero was feminists getting militant over their right to get their threpnies out in public?

If there's one cause absolutely guaranteed to unite the sexes...

How long before 21st century feminists libtards are declaring toplessness to be unfeminist? I give it 5, 4, 3, 2....

I've often thought that there would be a 'final showdown' between militant feminism/gays/trans and Islam.

However, I'm wondering now if, as you say, it will be more of a gradual acceptance of Islam by mental sleight of hand as you describe.

Eg, toplessness is unfeminine and is promoted for the gratification of m en. The veil is feminist, because it prevents men from objectifying women. etc.

I'm not quite sure how this would work with LGBTQI stuff but I suspect they will find a way before people actually start getting thrown off roofs in the west.

Probably something like 'being gay is largely accepted now and it is therefore better to keep quiet about it so that the sufferings of other victim groups such as Muslims can be more easily addressed' etc.

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Where's the Islamist angle here? The law says it's fine to sunbathe topless and there are no plans to change it, the local bobbies fucked up by intervening when a holidaying Karen moaned to them. I can't see any fact linking Islam to this story.

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4 minutes ago, Darude said:

Where's the Islamist angle here? The law says it's fine to bathe topless and there are no plans to change it, the local bobbies fucked up by intervening when a holidaying Karen moaned to them. I can't see any reason to think Islam played any part in this story.

How do you know it was a 'Karen'? The article states it was a 'family of holidaymakers' who complained.

We'll have no Karenophobia here!

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21 minutes ago, Austin Allegro said:

How do you know it was a 'Karen'? The article states it was a 'family of holidaymakers' who complained.

We'll have no Karenophobia here!

Karens come in all shapes, sizes, colours and creeds, what unites them is a burning need to talk to the manager.

It's a classic Karen move to invoke their family/children when making a complaint to the manager when it's just Karen who is unhappy about something.

WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN? : TheSimpsons

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26 minutes ago, Darude said:

he local bobbies fucked up by intervening when a holidaying Karen moaned to them.

 

22 minutes ago, Austin Allegro said:

How do you know it was a 'Karen'? The article states it was a 'family of holidaymakers' who complained.

I think this might explain it, an excuse to recycle some of my previous good work here.

If I was a child I would be traumatised.

Edit, I even think Madame Chamois even has a Bikini top on, but its very hard to tell...

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1 hour ago, Darude said:

Where's the Islamist angle here? The law says it's fine to sunbathe topless and there are no plans to change it, the local bobbies fucked up by intervening when a holidaying Karen moaned to them. I can't see any fact linking Islam to this story.

Yes fair comment, there's no direct islamist angle in this story. (though the question of who complained about the topless women is unanswered, I'd be astonished if it wasn't a Muslim but hey who knows, could have been from another religion with dress codes),

It's the context of the way things are going in France that make people on the right suspect Islamic pressure in cases like this. What do you think made the policemen concerned imagine they had the right to ask the women to put their tops on on the beach? A short time ago this would have been literally inconceivable in France, the police would have laughed at the person who complained and told them to holiday elsewhere.

As in the UK, there are more and more Muslims taking positions of power in local and national politics (they have a larger voter base in France), so I suspect this is just the beginning. 

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Many years ago I visited Germany and was pleasantly surprised to see so many ladies topless in the parks topping up their tan during their lunch hour. Not been back since but I suspect it's no longer done. Merkel (best not think about a topless Merkel !) / risk of triggering a sexual emergency in other cultures etc.

I'm in Portugal, can confirm topless (& naked on some quieter beaches) is common, land whales are not. For avoidance of doubt can also confirm I'm not at all offended (land whales excepted)!

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1 hour ago, Darude said:

Where's the Islamist angle here? The law says it's fine to sunbathe topless and there are no plans to change it, the local bobbies fucked up by intervening when a holidaying Karen moaned to them. I can't see any fact linking Islam to this story.

 

Perhaps the police are so brainwashed into obeying islamic stuff that, if the complainer was indeed muslim, they automatically fell in line with sharia thinking instead of siding with Western freedoms and, importantly, the law?

Or perhaps the cops themselves were muslim?

We don't know enough information - no surprise - about the details of what took place. But something to consider.

 

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1 hour ago, Chewing Grass said:

 I even think Madame Chamois even has a Bikini top on, but its very hard to tell...

@spunko we really could with another response on the forum, info/smile/beer/upvote is good but not always appropriate. Suggestions "noted - you have my sympathy", and for above photo "please don't do that again" Its lunchtime ffs - I don't need to see that :Sick1:

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14 minutes ago, Andersen said:

I'm in Portugal, can confirm topless (& naked on some quieter beaches) is common, land whales are not. For avoidance of doubt can also confirm I'm not at all offended (land whales excepted)!

Portuguese people find it pretty funny/odd that northern European women come to Portugal and walk around topless because Portuguese women themselves never would. The topless thing is uniquely French but northern Europeans get confused and think it also applies to other southern European countries when it really doesn't, although they might tolerate it if it's what the tourists want to do.

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10 minutes ago, The Masked Tulip said:

 

Perhaps the police are so brainwashed into obeying islamic stuff that, if the complainer was indeed muslim, they automatically fell in line with sharia thinking instead of siding with Western freedoms and, importantly, the law?

Or perhaps the cops themselves were muslim?

We don't know enough information - no surprise - about the details of what took place. But something to consider.

 

Until there is a single fact linking this story to Islam this is pure invention.

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