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Ok I’m not trying to start an argument and I’m well aware of the law if you use something has a weapon .im

pissed has fuck but I’m not going to come out with one of my daft story’s if you think they are true or not is irrelivent anyway.but I  learnt a very obscure martial art or street fighting style before mixed martial

art was even

invented .basicly one of the concepts is everything around you is a potential weapon .just take the different way of holding my vape has an example .get hit over the head in the latter grip and you could easily end up with a fractured skull it’s solid steel you can get a very good grip and where you use it to smoke from it’s about 8mm ie concentrated force .its also going to fuck up the winderscreen of someone in a road rage incident ie chance to fuck

off .

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M'lud.

I have a 4D maglite in my car door pocket, you never know when you might need lots of light.

Had to go into Londonistan this morning. "Gangsta wannabe" in a BMW (wiv his hoody up bruv) shouting at and threatening a van driver for not moving out of his way fast enough. Van driver shouting back

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3 hours ago, Inigo said:

Current terminology is a "kubaton".

The police have arrested people for having tiny, stubby sticks on key rings, and the owners have genuinely though it was just a key fob or decoration (which it probably was, but plod can get you for anything if they take a dislike to your face). One method of use is to push them into pressure points to disable your opponent.

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1 minute ago, Inigo said:

I thought that the rationalisation of the serrated edge was that, if stood on end, it allowed light out so that the torch acted a bit like a lantern.

Even better, but look at the way security/police hold torches and it’s just coincidental the lantern bit makes a good weapon?

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2 hours ago, the gardener said:

I carry one of these with me on all my dog walks including daylight ones. 

It's aluminum and has a nice serrated edge. 

Made in the UK too. 

Clulite torches. 

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To add to the other replies, it's fucking bright too. Shine that fucker in someone's eyes at night and it'll give you time to run away. 

It's also a great torch with a zoom lens giving an excellent 100m+ concentrated beam. 

British made too. They're my favourite torch. Often give as Christmas gifts. 

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2 hours ago, honkydonkey said:

The serrated edge is called an attack crown. If the police ask it’s called a defence crown. 

Its a grip.

As well as 'tactical' torches you can buy 'tactical' umbrelllas.

Totally harmless everyday items that are made of metal and weigh a few kg with an easy to hold grip.

 

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2 hours ago, spygirl said:

Its a grip.

As well as 'tactical' torches you can buy 'tactical' umbrelllas.

Totally harmless everyday items that are made of metal and weigh a few kg with an easy to hold grip.

 

I have a 'tactical' umbrella. It's also a walking stick and a shooting stick. The latter is a handy seat when needed. Strong enough as an umbrella to risk doing a Mary Poppins in high winds.

Nobody has tried to find out how well it functions as a weapon, which is how I want it to stay.

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I've got one of those maglite type torches in the car. I'd only use it for defensive purposes in a stabby-muzzer type extreme situation though, if I couldn't get away. Personally I'm against weapons, even improvised ones, as they are liable to escalate a confrontation and, with our legal system being what it is, could also get you into trouble. I do Krav Maga training and you learn a lot of useful things about how to 'de-escalate' while also being ready to administer potentially lethal blows without weapons.

 

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