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Big thing near me is that the local authority restricted parking spaces on all new office developments to 1 space per every three occupants of the building and public transport is completely nonsensical and inconvenient.

Being local would be a plus especially if you don't need a parking space to seal a deal as it keeps a space free for that person they need who does.

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I have problems with agencies that reject me for jobs I can do with my eyes closed, just because I don't have a degree or I lack a very specific skill (which I could easily learn), with these I know i

It's weird in a way that we assume that over a certain age, you just have to have the skills already. I could train people up to do several jobs in my industry in 2-3 months, no matter their age.

I have no problem with a legitimately tight jobs market I do have a problem with the gleeful destruction of jobs, and the bizarre sycophantic adulation still heaped upon the governments fear proj

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11 minutes ago, Chewing Grass said:

Big thing near me is that the local authority restricted parking spaces on all new office developments to 1 space per every three occupants of the building and public transport is completely nonsensical and inconvenient.

Being local would be a plus especially if you don't need a parking space to seal a deal as it keeps a space free for that person they need who does.

A local company advertised for a handyman.

One chap came along for the interview.

Q. how are you basic carpentry skills, A.  non existent.

Q.  electrical wiring, A. not a clue.

Q. decorating  A. appalling

Q. Minor repairs A. hopeless

 

Why have you come for a job as a handyman. 

I live just round the corner. 

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30 minutes ago, sleepwello'nights said:

A local company advertised for a handyman.

One chap came along for the interview.

Q. how are you basic carpentry skills, A.  non existent.

Q.  electrical wiring, A. not a clue.

Q. decorating  A. appalling

Q. Minor repairs A. hopeless

 

Why have you come for a job as a handyman. 

I live just round the corner. 

was his name Andy?

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On 08/09/2020 at 20:32, Snark said:

I have problems with agencies that reject me for jobs I can do with my eyes closed, just because I don't have a degree 

You could consider lying, only people who check are where this some legal or regulatory compliance issue requiring a background such as a banks or a government agency.

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I've never had to show my diploma/certificates or anything else to support claims about my education.

Granted, my first two jobs happened when I was still at Uni and then I got headhunted for the next one, but even for my first job in UK, when I had to apply for crica 30 positions through 4 agencies and go to interviews at 10 different companies, no-one ever asked me to prove my degree.

I don't quite understand why people rejected due to lack of degree wouldn't simply make one up. People often pimp up their skills and get easily exposed during the interview or in probation period, yet seem reluctant to improve one section of their CV that will help them clear the most important hurdle with much lesser risk of getting busted. Is there any criminal responsibility in an unlikely event of getting caught?

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1 hour ago, kibuc said:

I've never had to show my diploma/certificates or anything else to support claims about my education.

Granted, my first two jobs happened when I was still at Uni and then I got headhunted for the next one, but even for my first job in UK, when I had to apply for crica 30 positions through 4 agencies and go to interviews at 10 different companies, no-one ever asked me to prove my degree.

I don't quite understand why people rejected due to lack of degree wouldn't simply make one up. People often pimp up their skills and get easily exposed during the interview or in probation period, yet seem reluctant to improve one section of their CV that will help them clear the most important hurdle with much lesser risk of getting busted. Is there any criminal responsibility in an unlikely event of getting caught?

Of the 100 or so people i've had working for me over the last 20 odd years i've never once seen a degree certificate.  
All but 2 claimed to have one.  

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3 hours ago, kibuc said:

I've never had to show my diploma/certificates or anything else to support claims about my education.

Granted, my first two jobs happened when I was still at Uni and then I got headhunted for the next one, but even for my first job in UK, when I had to apply for crica 30 positions through 4 agencies and go to interviews at 10 different companies, no-one ever asked me to prove my degree.

I don't quite understand why people rejected due to lack of degree wouldn't simply make one up. People often pimp up their skills and get easily exposed during the interview or in probation period, yet seem reluctant to improve one section of their CV that will help them clear the most important hurdle with much lesser risk of getting busted. Is there any criminal responsibility in an unlikely event of getting caught?

You’ll get sacked. That’s all.

Years ago the company I worked for hired a contractor. On his CV he stated that he was a qualified accountant. We didn’t hire him for having said qualification but for his experience. He was very competent and did a good job. Then after about 6 months HR suddenly decided to do some background checks and realised he wasn’t qualified. They terminated his contract with immediate effect. That was it. 

Although, having read this thread maybe he felt he needed to lie about it to simply have recruiters put him forward for jobs.

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hahaha, i remember years ago having to sign a document at a new job, well, me and some aussie bloke, basically saying that if they found out we had lied on our cvs then they could sack us straight away, the aussie because the company he said he'd worked for didnt exist (went bankrupt back in australia), me because two of my referees were actually dead, hahah, thats how long ago it was, yes referees. I didnt even know they were gonners, so obviously they had done some checking, but anyway, job was shit, left after a year, same with the aussie, fact i think he left after 8 month.

 

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On 16/09/2020 at 09:58, sleepwello'nights said:

A local company advertised for a handyman.

One chap came along for the interview.

Q. how are you basic carpentry skills, A.  non existent.

Q.  electrical wiring, A. not a clue.

Q. decorating  A. appalling

Q. Minor repairs A. hopeless

 

Why have you come for a job as a handyman. 

I live just round the corner. 

I like his style

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The social cost of this ongoing Ponzi scheme jsut gets more and more derpessing,especailly when you consider the student debts they've been misssold.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/09/16/pew-majority-of-young-americans-live-with-parents-for-first-time-since-great-depression/

A recent poll by the Pew Research Center revealed that a majority of young Americans are living with their parents for the first time since the Great Depression. As of July, approximately 52 percent of young Americans between the ages of 18 and 29 lived with their parents. The number of young adults living with their parents has spiked by 2.6 million since the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic.

“The number living with parents grew to 26.6 million, an increase of 2.6 million from February. The number and share of young adults living with their parents grew across the board for all major racial and ethnic groups, men and women, and metropolitan and rural residents, as well as in all four main census regions,” the report reads. “Growth was sharpest for the youngest adults (ages 18 to 24) and for White young adults.”

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On 16/09/2020 at 10:53, goldbug9999 said:

You could consider lying, only people who check are where this some legal or regulatory compliance issue requiring a background such as a banks or a government agency.

I've shoehorned the word "degree" into my CV, so we'll see what happens.
It's about ticking boxes, and if the agencies ATS system (applicant tracking system) is looking for a degree because someone put it down as a requirement, then said system will drop you like a hot spud, regardless of your experience level.

Also going to start uploading my CV in .DOC format, because i've heard that older ATS systems cannot read pdf and will simply reject any applicant sending a pdf, without a human ever knowing what's happened.
I converted to PDF years ago to stop people editing my CV and to prevent formatting issues with different versions of Word.

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1 hour ago, Snark said:

I've shoehorned the word "degree" into my CV, so we'll see what happens.
It's about ticking boxes, and if the agencies ATS system (applicant tracking system) is looking for a degree because someone put it down as a requirement, then said system will drop you like a hot spud, regardless of your experience level.

Also going to start uploading my CV in .DOC format, because i've heard that older ATS systems cannot read pdf and will simply reject any applicant sending a pdf, without a human ever knowing what's happened.
I converted to PDF years ago to stop people editing my CV and to prevent formatting issues with different versions of Word.

i knew a guy lastname coleman, this was donkeys years ago, we worked at same place, at the time 'OLE' was the latest software fad doing the CV rounds, he was looking for a new job so his CV was circulating agencies, can you guess what happened......

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On 16/09/2020 at 17:34, kibuc said:

I've never had to show my diploma/certificates or anything else to support claims about my education.

Granted, my first two jobs happened when I was still at Uni and then I got headhunted for the next one, but even for my first job in UK, when I had to apply for crica 30 positions through 4 agencies and go to interviews at 10 different companies, no-one ever asked me to prove my degree.

I don't quite understand why people rejected due to lack of degree wouldn't simply make one up. People often pimp up their skills and get easily exposed during the interview or in probation period, yet seem reluctant to improve one section of their CV that will help them clear the most important hurdle with much lesser risk of getting busted. Is there any criminal responsibility in an unlikely event of getting caught?

Yeah I have a degree but never have had to produce it. Nowadays experience is key.

 

I have 1 interview next week and got recruiter from an OEM contact me out of the blue 

 

o.0

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14 hours ago, No One said:

Yeah I have a degree but never have had to produce it. Nowadays experience is key.

 

I have 1 interview next week and got recruiter from an OEM contact me out of the blue 

 

o.0

Having a degree gets you your fist few jobs.

After 5-10 years its then down to what youve done with that degree.

A degree is a start not and ending.

I always suggest you are going to have a few jobs in your first 5-10 years.

 

 

 

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On 17/09/2020 at 21:38, leonardratso said:

i knew a guy lastname coleman, this was donkeys years ago, we worked at same place, at the time 'OLE' was the latest software fad doing the CV rounds, he was looking for a new job so his CV was circulating agencies, can you guess what happened......

A reverse Scunthorpe effect.

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