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50 minutes ago, NTB said:

Him or David Davies are about the best available options. I don't like Moggs stance on gay marriage but he does appear to have some common sense.

What is his stance on gay marriage?

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I too would very much like to see him become leader, I too think he talks a lot of common sense and would soon implement a clear direction for the Brexit issues to take.

I dont have a problem with his views on gay marriage (he is against it). I expect a few here will disagree with me but thats OK.

My FB feed was recently full of people crowing that all the Muslim MPs in Germany voted to allow gay marriage, but you can easily Google several sources who point out that Muslims being in favour of gay marriage is nothing more than a tactical move, since when thats legalised, the next logical step is allowing polygamy.

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clarifaction of JRM views on gay marriage

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22 minutes ago, eight said:

What is his stance on gay marriage?

The gay marriage genie is out of the bottle and it will take the second coming of Oliver Cromwell to put it back.

JRM seems to have a set of values that he believes society should reflect. I believe that where modern/PC thinking breaches those values, he is prepared to challenge the issue. Obviously it's easy to be principled when accountable for nothing. The true test would be when he had to make an unpopular principled stand and face down a room of MPs with marginal seats.

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1 hour ago, NTB said:

Him or David Davies are about the best available options. I don't like Moggs stance on gay marriage but he does appear to have some common sense.

He is a devout Roman Catholic so he won't be in favour of Gay Marriage,Abortion or Contraception, I don't think that he is the type of person to impose his religious beliefs onto other people as he considers this a personal matter.

No doubt the media will have a field day in misrepresenting his religious views.

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I am a traditional socialist. No need for any debate - I nail my old-school Labour cards to the table at all times.

As such, Tories don't usually get listened to by me that much.

But Rees-Mogg speaks to me.

He's not yet a Tory I could actually vote for.

But he's the closest thing that there's ever been...

 

XYY

 

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13 minutes ago, The XYY Man said:

I am a traditional socialist. No need for any debate - I nail my old-school Labour cards to the table at all times.

As such, Tories don't usually get listened to by me that much.

But Rees-Mogg speaks to me.

He's not yet a Tory I could actually vote for.

But he's the closest thing that there's ever been...

 

XYY

 

A rare but valued breed. I salute you comrade. B|

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14 minutes ago, One percent said:

A rare but valued breed. I salute you comrade. B|

:)

Thank you for your kind words. :)

You do realise that my "breed" wants prosperity for everyone, don't you...?

I know that toffs, and people like Alan Sugar and Richard fucking Branson, need to earn themselves senseless..!

The fable of the frog and the scorpion taught me that when I was friggin' six..!

But I also want to see the widow of the coal-miner recognised for her part in the battle.

Only when we bring the frog and the scorpion together can we truly claim to be a great and civilised nation...

 

XYY

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13 minutes ago, The XYY Man said:

Thank you for your kind words.

You do realise that my "breed" wants prosperity for everyone, don't you...?

I know that toffs, and people like Alan Sugar and Richard fucking Branson, need to earn themselves senseless..!

The fable of the frog and the scorpion taught me that when I was friggin' six..!

But I also want to see the widow of the coal-miner recognised for her part in the battle.

Only when we bring the frog and the scorpion together can we truly claim to be a great and civilised nation...

 

XYY

A fairer and more equal society for all is what socialism asks for. It's not too much to ask.  We seem however to have gone backwards away from that ideal in the past 30 years. With the charge lead by the Labour Party afaict. 

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5 minutes ago, One percent said:

A fairer and more equal society for all is what socialism asks for. It's not too much to ask.  We seem however to have gone backwards away from that ideal in the past 30 years. With the charge lead by the Labour Party afaict. 

The "Labour" party are a bunch of cunts, led by the cuntiest cunt of all cunting time...!

And relax...

;)

 

XYY

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Just now, One percent said:

The current Labour Party, yes...... they ain't no socialists bro. 

I know sis.

Getting 40 hours a week wages for working only 16 hours has never been sustainable in any way, shape, or form.

I don't need to be Sir John Harvey fucking Jones to understand that. Being on the committee of the local "workie's club" can teach any spazmo that.

That one-eyed, Scottish mong who convinced so many of us otherwise really needs to be kicked in the bollocks at least three times a day for the rest of his monocular, haggis-chomping life...!

 

XYY

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14 minutes ago, The XYY Man said:

I know sis.

Getting 40 hours a week wages for working only 16 hours has never been sustainable in any way, shape, or form.

I don't need to be Sir John Harvey fucking Jones to understand that. Being on the committee of the local "workie's club" can teach any spazmo that.

That one-eyed, Scottish mong who convinced so many of us otherwise really needs to be kicked in the bollocks at least three times a day for the rest of his monocular, haggis-chomping life...!

 

XYY

The Bliar clause four debacle was the defining moment for me. You just knew that the Labour Party had split with it's working class roots. 

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Nothing, in recent history, suggests to me either the support of the voting public, or party members, has any bearing on the choice of Tory party leader. It is always a coronation.

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Just now, SNACR said:

Nothing, in recent history, suggests to me either the support of the voting public, or party members, has any bearing on the choice of Tory party leader. It is always a coronation.

:)

Never thought of it like that before - and you are dead right.

Cheers for that pearl of wisdom SNACKY mate...!

;)

 

XYY

 

 

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Call me an old fashioned romantic but when Cameron was PM even though disagreeing with some of his policies I believed he represented us well, he was young(ish), quick witted and from a posh family, went to posh school, with all the confidence that brings.. Now we have Theresa May, vicars daughter, quite posh, basically politically hopeless, looks like a wrinkly gran on tv with the fashion sense of a 1977 punk rocker. I'm not proud of Theresa May she's crap.

Now I could be really happy with JRM as PM, he speaks incredibly well, articulate, direct and intelligent....but his feet don't fit the glass slipper, he would never be accepted by the former residents of Grenfell for instance, too posh, not one of us. 

Regardless of being thick as pigshit we need a PM that speaks for us, as we speak, one of us, from us.    

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Cameron was utterly hopeless as a PM as is Theresa May.

Her recent manifesto showed her to be politically out of touch. She basically spat on the Grey vote who would have elected her.

The Conservatives need a leader who has political and common sense.

Whether Jacob Rees Mogg has those abilities remains to be seen.

Labour is dying on its feet.

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7 minutes ago, Bedrag Justesen said:

Call me an old fashioned romantic but when Cameron was PM even though disagreeing with some of his policies I believed he represented us well, he was young(ish), quick witted and from a posh family, went to posh school, with all the confidence that brings.. Now we have Theresa May, vicars daughter, quite posh, basically politically hopeless, looks like a wrinkly gran on tv with the fashion sense of a 1977 punk rocker. I'm not proud of Theresa May she's crap.

Now I could be really happy with JRM as PM, he speaks incredibly well, articulate, direct and intelligent....but his feet don't fit the glass slipper, he would never be accepted by the former residents of Grenfell for instance, too posh, not one of us. 

Regardless of being thick as pigshit we need a PM that speaks for us, as we speak, one of us, from us.    

Are you a banker or one of the globalist elite?  

Politicians of whatever colour do not represent the voting public. 

Just now, Byron said:

Cameron was utterly hopeless as a PM as is Theresa May.

Her recent manifesto showed her to be politically out of touch. She basically spat on the Grey vote who would have elected her.

The Conservatives need a leader who has political and common sense.

Whether Jacob Rees Mogg has those abilities remains to be seen.

Labour is dying on its feet.

It's dead we just need to bury the corpse and move on. 

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2 minutes ago, One percent said:

Are you a banker or one of the globalist elite?  

Politicians of whatever colour do not represent the voting public. 

I know what Bedrag means, I think. Cameron was presentable. However this carries no weight with me as Blair was also presentable, and he presided over the destruction of the UK as I knew it.(OK a lot was Brown, but Blair let him do it)

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9 minutes ago, Bedrag Justesen said:

Call me an old fashioned romantic but when Cameron was PM even though disagreeing with some of his policies I believed he represented us well, he was young(ish), quick witted and from a posh family, went to posh school, with all the confidence that brings.. Now we have Theresa May, vicars daughter, quite posh, basically politically hopeless, looks like a wrinkly gran on tv with the fashion sense of a 1977 punk rocker. I'm not proud of Theresa May she's crap.

Now I could be really happy with JRM as PM, he speaks incredibly well, articulate, direct and intelligent....but his feet don't fit the glass slipper, he would never be accepted by the former residents of Grenfell for instance, too posh, not one of us. 

Regardless of being thick as pigshit we need a PM that speaks for us, as we speak, one of us, from us.    

Disagree a tiny bit - but I get your logic perfectly there Beddy.

Perhaps being toff enough for an inverse snob such as myself to consider voting for him actually rules him out,,,!

I love irony, me...

;)

 

XYY

 

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6 minutes ago, One percent said:

Are you a banker or one of the globalist elite?  

Politicians of whatever colour do not represent the voting public. 

 

We need to remember politicians at all levels are there to serve us at our discretion, if we don't feel they do so we can vote them out of office. People overseas must have watched Cameron at Prime Ministers Questions in awe thinking how lucky we are to be represented by someone so witty.

 

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