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Johnson's announcement on 22 September: place your bets


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Here's my predictions:

These ones almost certain:

  • All pubs to close. Some sort of aid package announced for them.
  • Restaurants to be severely curtailed, ie limit to capacity, reduced hours etc.
  • All places of entertainment to be closed
  • No socialising or visiting anyone outside household or bubble indoors.
  • No gatherings of any size in public except for sporting events (this to prevent demonstrations)
  • 10pm curfew

These ones less likely but possible:

  • Masks to be worn at all times in public, indoors or outdoors
  • Ban on outdoor sporting events
  • All places of worship to close (this one a bit tricky due to the 'M' word)
  • Travel restriction radius from home

All the above to be for an indefinite period with no specified review date.

What say you Dosbodderers?


 

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5 minutes ago, Austin Allegro said:

Here's my predictions:

These ones almost certain:

  • All pubs to close. Some sort of aid package announced for them.
  • Restaurants to be severely curtailed, ie limit to capacity, reduced hours etc.
  • All places of entertainment to be closed
  • No socialising or visiting anyone outside household or bubble indoors.
  • No gatherings of any size in public except for sporting events (this to prevent demonstrations)
  • 10pm curfew

These ones less likely but possible:

  • Masks to be worn at all times in public, indoors or outdoors
  • Ban on outdoor sporting events
  • All places of worship to close (this one a bit tricky due to the 'M' word)
  • Travel restriction radius from home

All the above to be for an indefinite period with no specified review date.

What say you Dosbodderers?


 

I think certain, easily offended people will turn nasty if he tries to ban attending a place of worship. Closing pubs, no bother as no one cares. At least those that appear to matter most don’t care. 

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9 minutes ago, Austin Allegro said:

Here's my predictions:

These ones almost certain:

  • All pubs to close. Some sort of aid package announced for them.
  • Restaurants to be severely curtailed, ie limit to capacity, reduced hours etc.
  • All places of entertainment to be closed
  • No socialising or visiting anyone outside household or bubble indoors.
  • No gatherings of any size in public except for sporting events (this to prevent demonstrations)
  • 10pm curfew

These ones less likely but possible:

  • Masks to be worn at all times in public, indoors or outdoors
  • Ban on outdoor sporting events
  • All places of worship to close (this one a bit tricky due to the 'M' word)
  • Travel restriction radius from home

All the above to be for an indefinite period with no specified review date.

What say you Dosbodderers?


 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/12725279/second-lockdown-pubs-close-10pm/

Pubs to close at 10pm...  

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3 minutes ago, Austin Allegro said:

Here's my predictions:

These ones almost certain:

  • All pubs to close. Some sort of aid package announced for them.
  • Restaurants to be severely curtailed, ie limit to capacity, reduced hours etc.
  • All places of entertainment to be closed
  • No socialising or visiting anyone outside household or bubble indoors.
  • No gatherings of any size in public except for sporting events (this to prevent demonstrations)
  • 10pm curfew

These ones less likely but possible:

  • Masks to be worn at all times in public, indoors or outdoors
  • Ban on outdoor sporting events
  • All places of worship to close (this one a bit tricky due to the 'M' word)
  • Travel restriction radius from home

All the above to be for an indefinite period with no specified review date.

What say you Dosbodderers?


 

 

Cameras to be placed in everyone's homes to check compliance.

Enforced obligatory worshipping sessions of the NHS on prayer mats in front of the TV every day - the islamic-style posture with arse in the air and head towards the object of worship. 

Unbelievers to be executed.

Announcement of some trillion-pound contracts for some companies with some familiar sounding Tory names on their contacts lists to supply various Covid-related things to the NHS.

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Austin Allegro said:

These ones less likely but possible:

  • Every household will be given a free wall mounted television screen which will be used to broadcast updates from the government, medical scientists, and also offer daily exercise routines provided by a free impersonal trainer. It may also have some other functionalities which will be revealed as and when they are used against you.
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11 minutes ago, One percent said:

I think certain, easily offended people will turn nasty if he tries to ban attending a place of worship. Closing pubs, no bother as no one cares. At least those that appear to matter most don’t care. 

From what I heard - and not sure if it's just big ones or all - but sounds like going to places of worship seriously curtailed already.

No singing, less services, distancing etc so less people.  Thankfully don't go to church but can imagine if you do it's anywhere from not much fun to pretty pointless.

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Doesn't really matter, it has to be something.  The last thing they want is this to be resolved without action, which would call into question all actions already taken. 

Even if they did turn round and say go back to normal there is no real risk, half the country wouldn't believe it.  This has to be walked out, with further action over the winter months.  I think the best we can hope for now is low impact and pointless changes to the rules already in place.  

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2 minutes ago, Dogtania said:

From what I heard - and not sure if it's just big ones or all - but sounds like going to places of worship seriously curtailed already.

No singing, less services, distancing etc so less people.  Thankfully don't go to church but can imagine if you do it's anywhere from not much fun to pretty pointless.

I’ve found that attendance at my church has been seriously contained. Others call my church the pub.  o.O

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4 minutes ago, Dogtania said:

From what I heard - and not sure if it's just big ones or all - but sounds like going to places of worship seriously curtailed already.

No singing, less services, distancing etc so less people.  Thankfully don't go to church but can imagine if you do it's anywhere from not much fun to pretty pointless.

I used to be a fairly regular church-goer at my local parish, but do not attend now because of the ban on singing and the compulsory face masks. I am continuing to support the church financially, but refuse to attend until those restrictions are lifted.

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Masks to be worn at all times, even if you live alone, and even when you're in bed.

1 minute ago, Austin Allegro said:

I used to be a fairly regular church-goer at my local parish, but do not attend now because of the ban on singing and the compulsory face masks. I am continuing to support the church financially, but refuse to attend until those restrictions are lifted.

Same here , but I now just attend alone .

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24 minutes ago, Stuey said:

I'm going for A Very British Coup type speech and Whitty thrown under the bus.

Out of hope...

There comes a point where a government scientist knows too much and has to have a parachute accident, jogging/hill walking incident or mental episode under a tree on a sunny day.

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27 minutes ago, feed said:

Doesn't really matter, it has to be something.  The last thing they want is this to be resolved without action, which would call into question all actions already taken. 

Even if they did turn round and say go back to normal there is no real risk, half the country wouldn't believe it.  This has to be walked out, with further action over the winter months.  I think the best we can hope for now is low impact and pointless changes to the rules already in place.  

I'd like to believe that theory but there seems little evidence to support it.

Just as people were starting to relax a bit over the summer, they come out with all this 'rise in new cases' stuff and now the probable semi-lockdown being brought in tomorrow.

They had every chance to gradually wind down the fear but they have gone the opposite way.

Something else is going on. It could simply be that nobody in government wants to do a Sweden and is just waiting until a vaccine comes out (egged on by big Pharma, Bill Gates etc) so that they can wash their hands of any future responsibility.

It's also highly likely that the restrictions are being deliberately prolonged as a distraction from Brexit, although of course that can't be the main reason as the pandemic restrictions are global.

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A lot of Tory cronies are going to get masses of taxpayer money to sort out testing.

A bit of Morlockisation, pubs must shut early and this will be monitored, any sign of disobedience and it will be a full evening curfew for everybody.

Something pretending to give financial help to people but it's just so they can pay what they owe to the bank.

You have to wash your hands singing happy birthday twice.

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4 minutes ago, Austin Allegro said:

I'd like to believe that theory but there seems little evidence to support it.

Just as people were starting to relax a bit over the summer, they come out with all this 'rise in new cases' stuff and now the probable semi-lockdown being brought in tomorrow.

They had every chance to gradually wind down the fear but they have gone the opposite way.

Something else is going on. It could simply be that nobody in government wants to do a Sweden and is just waiting until a vaccine comes out (egged on by big Pharma, Bill Gates etc) so that they can wash their hands of any future responsibility.

It's also highly likely that the restrictions are being deliberately prolonged as a distraction from Brexit, although of course that can't be the main reason as the pandemic restrictions are global.

problem with any attempt at a reduction or lighter restrictions here, is that the rest of EU and undoubtedly the US will be pushing for more to mitigate the "second wave" over winter.  A hostile press and you've a state that has to back track to comply with both media and public pressure.   And you end up with more restrictions going into winter anyway. 

i've no idea what is really going on, but the only way this ends is if there is global (or at least the west) agreement that it's done.  Our government isn't in control of this, but they maybe in control of trying to control the population.    

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