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Bolox,

It's finally happened. I have to do  a minimum of 10 days JS from November 30th. There's no way out and I'm really busy ATM as covid has bumped up virtual orchestra specialist work.

I can claim £65 plus £5 food per day - after the event - bloody minimum wage!!!

Shite. I should have taken the offer of becoming a mason up. Maybe @ad_ceng can offer advice on whether being in a lodge can get you off JS???

Can you take electronics in? shit, shit, shit.

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They'll let you postpone it once if you provide a plausible reason...'my business will collapse' is probably good enough. If this doesn't work, they always have extra jurors in the pool in case o

install NHS app, see if you can set a world record for scanning the most QR codes in a week, sit back and wait for the call to self isolate?

Says on my form that the defendant is being tried for evasion of jury service and trumped-up antisemitism charges. ;-) 

10 minutes ago, maynardgravy said:

Bolox,

It's finally happened. I have to do  a minimum of 10 days JS from November 30th. There's no way out and I'm really busy ATM as covid has bumped up virtual orchestra specialist work.

I can claim £65 plus £5 food per day - after the event - bloody minimum wage!!!

Shite. I should have taken the offer of becoming a mason up. Maybe @ad_ceng can offer advice on whether being in a lodge can get you off JS???

Can you take electronics in? shit, shit, shit.

Other option is throw away the summons and pretend it never arrived if not signed for 

Fuck the state it is the enemy

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Whenever I've done a straw poll at work the great majority have never been called for it; including me.  Though oddly of the ones who had some had been called more than once.

So I would say: unlucky.

I worked with an old guy in London who had had an interesting life including a spell in the merchant navy on cruise ships with John Prescott.  Who used to get a lift home to Hull from the port with Reuben the female impersonator.

He said that a standard way of passing the days in London when waiting for the next ship, and short of money, was to sit in the public gallery of Marlborough Street magistrates' court because it was warm, dry, and reasonably interesting.  This would have been late 60s / early 70s.

Anyway with some days to spare before leaving London after packing in my job I decided to give it a try.

It was boring because it was so slow.  I forced myself to stay for an hour in case it perked up but it didn't.

I could however see if it was the option of that or sitting in a park in the cold (these guys would have been in B&Bs where you were expected to be out of the house during the day) then I would have been staying all day.

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I was called up about 30 years ago, in July.

At the time I was a student, with a great summer job, earning over £200 a week (at least half of which was overtime). I managed to fiddle the expenses to cover 100% of my lost earnings.

It was a real insight into the English justice system; suffice it to say that I would never wish to appear before a jury (especially if innocent!) - the majority view was that the defendant must be guilty, as those nice policemen and CPS people wouldn't take an innocent man to trial. As the deliberation continued, jurors started to complain that they needed to pick up their kids from school, or were about to miss their tee-off time at the golf club, so could we just agree to find the defendant guilty?!

Had he not been such a nutter and, effectively, convicted himself, I would still be sitting there now proclaiming "not guilty" - the CPS had done nothing to prove his guilt. Lesson number two: if you are ever up against a jury, say nothing.

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It's a really interesting experience to be honest. And you basically get paid to sit around and read etc for most of the day. I would do it again in a heartbeat. But the only thing I would say it is scary how stupid most of the public/other jurors are. I can't go into details obviously but something amazingly obvious was overlooked by them. I certainly wouldn't have wanted my fellow jurors judging me.

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3 minutes ago, gibbon said:

Trial by our peers is one of the few defences we have against the state. That's why the cunt Blair was so eager to get rid of it.

 

Oh I would convict on cases where there might be a real victim. Where the state appears as the victim not a chance, or if the victims were police, politicians etc I would not convict

 

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Does the story about turning up with a copy of the Telegraph and opening it just before jury selection begins still stand? I heard that both defence and prosecution can throw people off a jury for various reasions. Having a copy of the Telegraph on your is apparently one.

Like @Sucralose Ray Leonard I too have watched lots of Qunicy and virtually every cop show since. I like the idea of being on a jury but don't fancy being knobbed. It is knobbed isn't it? o.O Does the judge do you in his chambers?

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18 minutes ago, Nippy said:

It can also be pretty harrowing.

Oddly, a friend of my mother was called up at the same time as me, so for the first few days we car-shared to court.

She didn''t reveal the details of the case to which she had been assigned (correctly), but I deduced that it was some kind of paedo offence, which visibly affected her.

My guy just tried to blow up his ex-wife, in a most convoluted manner!

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9 minutes ago, The Masked Tulip said:

Does the story about turning up with a copy of the Telegraph and opening it just before jury selection begins still stand? I heard that both defence and prosecution can throw people off a jury for various reasions. Having a copy of the Telegraph on your is apparently one.

Like @Sucralose Ray Leonard I too have watched lots of Qunicy and virtually every cop show since. I like the idea of being on a jury but don't fancy being knobbed. It is knobbed isn't it? o.O Does the judge do you in his chambers?

I'm picturing Judge Rinder in a different light now. 

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