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Insanity of the Consovietive Party


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Looks like they have now called in the West Cumbria Metallurgical coal project despite approval from both district and county councils and local Tory MP's. 

https://steelguru.com/coal/uk-government-reconsidering-west-cumbria-coking-coal-mining-plans/563905

This project which will mine metallurgical coal (used to make steel rather than for heating) will displace all the UK's import needs and allow us to export moderate quantities to Europe. It will generate 500 jobs directly and probably double that in support industries. All in an area with high levels of unemployment and deprivation.....

Inevitably people like the local Lib Dim MP Tim Farron have opposed it despite the fact as metallurgical coal it will be used to make steel - notably used in the local manufacture of wind turbine bases and towers unless of course we want to export all that work to dodgy outfits in the UAE. 

So much for the blue collar 'Conservative' movement. 

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35 minutes ago, Kurt Barlow said:

Looks like they have now called in the West Cumbria Metallurgical coal project despite approval from both district and county councils and local Tory MP's. 

https://steelguru.com/coal/uk-government-reconsidering-west-cumbria-coking-coal-mining-plans/563905

This project which will mine metallurgical coal (used to make steel rather than for heating) will displace all the UK's import needs and allow us to export moderate quantities to Europe. It will generate 500 jobs directly and probably double that in support industries. All in an area with high levels of unemployment and deprivation.....

Inevitably people like the local Lib Dim MP Tim Farron have opposed it despite the fact as metallurgical coal it will be used to make steel - notably used in the local manufacture of wind turbine bases and towers unless of course we want to export all that work to dodgy outfits in the UAE. 

So much for the blue collar 'Conservative' movement. 

Can't see a problem with this. I will be amazed if its not approved - Lib Dems make trouble, Tories solve it. 

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There's a strong vein of 'green' fundamentalist zealotry emanating from Boris' cabinet. Possibly his Mrs has something to do with it, maybe it's down to Extinction Rebellion and the free pass they seem to always get for being utter arseholes, maybe polls or lobbying from 'green' industries. One of the first things they did was push through landowner subsidies for re-wilding farmland, which begs the question why would a small island nation with a high population density and generally good farmland and climate make it policy to reduce their food producing capacity. Boris also went big on 'green' in his Conservative Party conference address. Also concerning that 'green' appears to be largely interchangeable with 'fourth industrial revolution' and 'great reset' globalist wish lists. What would the UK need steel for? Goodness knows what Boris and co think the wind turbines and electric cars they are so keen on are made from.

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2 hours ago, Kurt Barlow said:

Looks like they have now called in the West Cumbria Metallurgical coal project despite approval from both district and county councils and local Tory MP's. 

https://steelguru.com/coal/uk-government-reconsidering-west-cumbria-coking-coal-mining-plans/563905

This project which will mine metallurgical coal (used to make steel rather than for heating) will displace all the UK's import needs and allow us to export moderate quantities to Europe. It will generate 500 jobs directly and probably double that in support industries. All in an area with high levels of unemployment and deprivation.....

Inevitably people like the local Lib Dim MP Tim Farron have opposed it despite the fact as metallurgical coal it will be used to make steel - notably used in the local manufacture of wind turbine bases and towers unless of course we want to export all that work to dodgy outfits in the UAE. 

So much for the blue collar 'Conservative' movement. 

The Tories hate working people, they don’t talk proper and they smell.

Labour and the Libdems agree with the Tories.

 

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1 hour ago, whitevanman said:

The Tories hate working people, they don’t talk proper and they smell.

Labour and the Libdems agree with the Tories.

 

At least the tories just want to keep poor people poor. Lib/Lab want to replace them entirely with random immigrants.

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1 hour ago, goldbug9999 said:

At least the tories just want to keep poor people poor. Lib/Lab want to replace them entirely with random immigrants.

That used to be true.

But the Tories have been in power 10 years, and have done nothing to stop this process. Even if the (invalid) excuse of the EU free movement thing covers some of the immigration in that time, the non-EU immigration figure has been massive.

They're all the same, there is no mainstream party in UK politics that will act against immigration, because they would be disobeying their banking masters if they did.

 

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5 minutes ago, swiss_democracy_for_all said:

But the Tories have been in power 10 years, and have done nothing to stop this process. Even if the (invalid) excuse of the EU free movement thing covers some of the immigration in that time, the non-EU immigration figure has been massive.

Fully agree. 

Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do. They won't even stop a few rubber dinghy's.. 

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5 hours ago, whitevanman said:

The Tories hate working people, they don’t talk proper and they smell.

Labour and the Libdems agree with the Tories.

 

You don't have to go very far back to find a time when if you had become rich by trade you were still a second class citizen. Well, you wouldn't actually have been a citizen then, more a subject of whoever was on the throne.

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7 hours ago, Caravan Monster said:

There's a strong vein of 'green' fundamentalist zealotry emanating from Boris' cabinet. Possibly his Mrs has something to do with it, maybe it's down to Extinction Rebellion and the free pass they seem to always get for being utter arseholes, maybe polls or lobbying from 'green' industries. One of the first things they did was push through landowner subsidies for re-wilding farmland, which begs the question why would a small island nation with a high population density and generally good farmland and climate make it policy to reduce their food producing capacity. Boris also went big on 'green' in his Conservative Party conference address. Also concerning that 'green' appears to be largely interchangeable with 'fourth industrial revolution' and 'great reset' globalist wish lists. What would the UK need steel for? Goodness knows what Boris and co think the wind turbines and electric cars they are so keen on are made from.

The rewilding thing is a ruse. Landowners love it because they can on one hand preach about saving the European Beaver by offering 20 acres to be rewilded but then with the other they can flog off 400 acres of their land for £200m so that they can build a new 'eco' town.

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3 hours ago, spunko said:

The rewilding thing is a ruse. Landowners love it because they can on one hand preach about saving the European Beaver by offering 20 acres to be rewilded but then with the other they can flog off 400 acres of their land for £200m so that they can build a new 'eco' town.

Also a ruse in the sense of being cover to tax, give the money to benefactors of the ruling class and impose their whims upon the proles whilst bringing about none of the 'for the future of mankind' improvements these policies claim to make.

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15 hours ago, ashestoashes said:

someone's just invented a process to turn sea water into fresh water using CO2 and no electricity, so we need more CO2 now.

The Worlds CCGT's will provide all the CO2 needed in concentrated form assuming this can be scaled up.  Sucking it out of the air would be extremely costly. 

Just now, Kurt Barlow said:

The Worlds CCGT's will provide all the CO2 needed in concentrated form assuming this can be scaled up.  Sucking it out of the air would be extremely costly. 

And the process will use electricity - lots of it. 

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39 minutes ago, Kurt Barlow said:

The Worlds CCGT's will provide all the CO2 needed in concentrated form assuming this can be scaled up.  Sucking it out of the air would be extremely costly. 

And the process will use electricity - lots of it. 

they seemed hopeful about using it for emergency supplies of water so not that much electricity

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The technology works by adding the compound diamine to saltwater. The type of diamine used is CO2-responsive, meaning that the substance’s behaviour can be controlled when it comes into contact with CO2. The diamine binds with the added CO2 and thereafter acts as a sponge to absorb the salt, which can then be separated. The entire process takes 1-10 minutes. Once the CO2 is removed, the salt is released again – allowing for the chemicals to be reused for several more rounds of desalination.

Hmmm. I suspect some energy input is required there. And to retrieve the diamine, the CO2 has to be released, so the process is not a CO2 sink.

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4 minutes ago, Happy Renting said:

Hmmm. I suspect some energy input is required there. And to retrieve the diamine, the CO2 has to be released, so the process is not a CO2 sink.

They are doing a lot of work on injecting CO2 into concrete to basically make Calcium Carbonate and lock up the CO2. Concrete and cement manufacture are huge producers of CO2. 

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17 minutes ago, Kurt Barlow said:

They are doing a lot of work on injecting CO2 into concrete to basically make Calcium Carbonate and lock up the CO2. Concrete and cement manufacture are huge producers of CO2. 

That's good idea, didn't know this. It will decrease the tendency to oxidise the reinforcement bars in the concrete, increasing the longevity.

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