• Welcome to DOSBODS

    Please consider creating a free account to be able to access all the features of the DOSBODS community. It only takes 20 seconds!

Dave Bloke

The Jungle is Back

Recommended Posts

The Calais jungle is back. Cleared by the French government nearly a year ago migrants have been returning to Calais in order to make the crossing to the UK. No estimates of numbers have been given but there are probably over a thousand now in town. So much so that the "associations" - actually fronts for Soros funded marxist no borders fruit loops, are demanding the installations of facilities: loos, showers, water etc. The town hall has refused to do this but have been ordered to by the French supreme court[1] on Humanitarian Grounds.

French police estimate that practically all of the people arriving at Calais eventually make it to the UK

Edited by davidg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
26 minutes ago, davidg said:

The Calais jungle is back. Cleared by the French government nearly a year ago migrants have been returning to Calais in order to make the crossing to the UK. No estimates of numbers have been given but there are probably over a thousand now in town. So much so that the "associations" - actually fronts for Soros funded marxist no borders fruit loops, are demanding the installations of facilities: loos, showers, water etc. The town hall has refused to do this but have been ordered to by the French supreme court[1] on Humanitarian Grounds.

French police estimate that practically all of the people arriving at Calais eventually make it to the UK

All those thousands arriving in Spain have to go somewhere. They've done the most dangerous part, the promised land of the UK awaits. Without a dramatic overhaul of the internal systems of the UK, this will continue indefinitely and Brexit will make no difference.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
32 minutes ago, davidg said:

The Calais jungle is back. Cleared by the French government nearly a year ago migrants have been returning to Calais in order to make the crossing to the UK. No estimates of numbers have been given but there are probably over a thousand now in town. So much so that the "associations" - actually fronts for Soros funded marxist no borders fruit loops, are demanding the installations of facilities: loos, showers, water etc. The town hall has refused to do this but have been ordered to by the French supreme court[1] on Humanitarian Grounds.

French police estimate that practically all of the people arriving at Calais eventually make it to the UK

I would set the place up with those irrigation machines farmers use.  Keep them drenched and miserable. Problem is, it will only move the problem on.  The ptb need to deal with this ar source and stop them landing on European soil in the first place 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, One percent said:

I would set the place up with those irrigation machines farmers use.  Keep them drenched and miserable. Problem is, it will only move the problem on.  The ptb need to deal with this ar source and stop them landing on European soil in the first place 

Without some pragmatism and action on the part of European governments, there will be a steady flow of these folk that will increase as success will breed success(the ones that arrive will be phoning their families saying yeah it's fine send all the younger brothers...). 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, davidg said:

The Calais jungle is back. Cleared by the French government nearly a year ago ...

Not really surprising. it was just to try and save Hollande's election, wasn't it? Didn't it get cleared once before as well?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, spunko2010 said:

Is the Jungle ever featured on French TV / media aside from when it's cleared?

One cannot fathom how the French can put up with that on their soil.

I guess: for most of the population, which is to say those who do not live in Calais, it's out of sight and out of mind.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, spunko2010 said:

Is the Jungle ever featured on French TV / media aside from when it's cleared?

One cannot fathom how the French can put up with that on their soil.

Indeed, if it comes back there is going to be massive pressure to break the agreement to effectively have the border on French soil. I think it was a separate agreement therefore unaffected by Brexit, but if I was a resident of Calais or anywhere in the region, even a Brit resident, I wouldn't give a flying f*ck, I'd just want that camp out of there. We could have a kind of internment camp on the UK side within a few years.

Shares in Eurotunnel anyone?

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
17 minutes ago, swissy_fit said:

Indeed, if it comes back there is going to be massive pressure to break the agreement to effectively have the border on French soil. I think it was a separate agreement therefore unaffected by Brexit, but if I was a resident of Calais or anywhere in the region, even a Brit resident, I wouldn't give a flying f*ck, I'd just want that camp out of there. We could have a kind of internment camp on the UK side within a few years.

Shares in Eurotunnel anyone?

 

 

Surely we would simply stop people boarding the ferrys and the Chunnel trains without papers. Given that there is 26 miles of sea separating us from the rest of Europe, where the imagined border actually lies is a moot point. Or am I missing something? 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
35 minutes ago, spunko2010 said:

Is the Jungle ever featured on French TV / media aside from when it's cleared?

One cannot fathom how the French can put up with that on their soil.

A heartfelt on-the-ground perspective from a native Calaisienne - don't expect it ever made it to french TV:

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, One percent said:

Surely we would simply stop people boarding the ferrys and the Chunnel trains without papers. Given that there is 26 miles of sea separating us from the rest of Europe, where the imagined border actually lies is a moot point. Or am I missing something? 

If the French stop co-operating and the agreement is broken, how would Eurotunnel manage this? With great difficulty I'd suggest.Already the trucks are bringing in thousands of hidden migrants, without French co-operation access to the tunnels would be inevitable.

People are looking at this from the wrong angle, it isn't the migrants fault, any more than it is the fault of the EU workers after 16-hour jobs with Tax Credits. While the bird-feeder remains in place, the birds will want to come. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
19 minutes ago, Turned Out Nice Again said:

A heartfelt on-the-ground perspective from a native Calaisienne - don't expect it ever made it to french TV:

Recently, around 2,000 migrants were rounded up from the streets of Paris and moved on to shelters (have looked for the link but can't find it).

What that video demonstrates is that it really is out of sight and out of mind for most. The people of Calais have been sacrificed. We won't allow this on the streets of Paris, an international city where people might see it, but we won't deal with it when it's just a little town in the relative middle of nowhere.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

We need to move to a contribution based welfare system. "Contribution" can be defined any way you wish - eg must have worked for x, or been resident  for y, etc etc.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, swissy_fit said:

All those thousands arriving in Spain have to go somewhere. They've done the most dangerous part, the promised land of the UK awaits. Without a dramatic overhaul of the internal systems of the UK, this will continue indefinitely and Brexit will make no difference.

That's the plan...!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, davidg said:

The Calais jungle is back. Cleared by the French government nearly a year ago migrants have been returning to Calais in order to make the crossing to the UK. No estimates of numbers have been given but there are probably over a thousand now in town. So much so that the "associations" - actually fronts for Soros funded marxist no borders fruit loops, are demanding the installations of facilities: loos, showers, water etc. The town hall has refused to do this but have been ordered to by the French supreme court[1] on Humanitarian Grounds.

French police estimate that practically all of the people arriving at Calais eventually make it to the UK

But not housing.  If they got proper housing then there'd be no real excuse for them to head to the UK.  

Incidentally I thought that the eu had a legal obligation to properly house "refugees"(on Humanitarian grounds?) but apparently not in this case.

Edited by twocents

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, twocents said:

But not housing.  If they got proper housing then there'd be no real excuse for them to head to the UK.  

Incidentally I thought that the eu had a legal obligation to properly house "refugees"(on Humanitarian grounds?) but apparently not in this case.

Might that only apply if they actually made a formal request for asylum?

Which might result in them being offered a place a hundred miles from Calais.

Which is no good, because it's too far to travel for the nightly attempt to cross into the UK.

Were they offered housing in Calais, they'd probably take it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, spunko2010 said:

Is the Jungle ever featured on French TV / media aside from when it's cleared?

One cannot fathom how the French can put up with that on their soil.

I was shocked to see a shanty town on the side of a motorway near Paris a couple of weeks ago 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
19 minutes ago, DTMark said:

Might that only apply if they actually made a formal request for asylum?

Which might result in them being offered a place a hundred miles from Calais.

Which is no good, because it's too far to travel for the nightly attempt to cross into the UK.

Were they offered housing in Calais, they'd probably take it.

I'm sure they would have to register and request it but they don't while there's a prospect of getting to the UK.  I question whether most would even want to take up an offer of proper housing in Calais as then they'd be off the radar of the SJWs and the Lily Allens to shed tears over their shanty town plight to help their move to their land of milk and honey - and they'd have less legal justification to come to the UK as "refugees". 

Once they get to the UK they'll grab the offer of housing.

In the meantime the fact that they apparently aren't registered for possible asylum in France just adds to the reported general and extreme lawlessness around Calais as they are outside of the law/the system and the lawlessness is likely to be at least partly to motivate French authorities to expedite their move to the UK.  

Edited by twocents

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, davidg said:

The Calais jungle is back. Cleared by the French government nearly a year ago migrants have been returning to Calais in order to make the crossing to the UK. No estimates of numbers have been given but there are probably over a thousand now in town. So much so that the "associations" - actually fronts for Soros funded marxist no borders fruit loops, are demanding the installations of facilities: loos, showers, water etc. The town hall has refused to do this but have been ordered to by the French supreme court[1] on Humanitarian Grounds.

French police estimate that practically all of the people arriving at Calais eventually make it to the UK

There always was the suspicion that the reported clearing of Calais around that time was a cynical move partly to accommodate the eu referendum propaganda.

 

Quote

 

Edited by twocents

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Great Guy said:

The thing is people see the migration crisis and they realise normal politicians cant solve the problem.

I'd vote for whoever would actually solve the problem..

 

The most puzzling thing to me is that the solution is so obvious and easy to implement. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a politician in the UK, France, Germany, Spain, Italy or Greece with the backbone to carry out what I see as the will of the European people.

I'm thinking I might have to emigrate to Eastern Europe. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, sleepwello'nights said:

The most puzzling thing to me is that the solution is so obvious and easy to implement. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a politician in the UK, France, Germany, Spain, Italy or Greece with the backbone to carry out what I see as the will of the European people.

I'm thinking I might have to emigrate to Eastern Europe. 

That's what gets me as well. Migration would stop in weeks if we saved the migrants from the Mediterranean and then put them back in Libya.

They simply aren't our responsibility.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, blobloblob said:

We need to move to a contribution based welfare system. "Contribution" can be defined any way you wish - eg must have worked for x, or been resident  for y, etc etc.

Why? Resident citizens only seems straightforward enough.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
20 hours ago, DTMark said:

Might that only apply if they actually made a formal request for asylum?

Which might result in them being offered a place a hundred miles from Calais.

Which is no good, because it's too far to travel for the nightly attempt to cross into the UK.

Were they offered housing in Calais, they'd probably take it.

Yup, they won't apply for Asylum because they won't be able to move to the UK

20 hours ago, Great Guy said:

That's what gets me as well. Migration would stop in weeks if we saved the migrants from the Mediterranean and then put them back in Libya.

They simply aren't our responsibility.

The Italian govt. has an agreement in place with the Libyan govt who has now extended their territorial waters to 200 miles. Any NGO boat found inside will be sunk, they've been firing on the NGO boats with the coastguard. The NGOs have stood down for the moment. Simples.

Pressure has now moved to Tunisia and Morocco.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Similar Content

    • By One percent
      I thought this deserved its own thread, rather than being buried in the islamification one.  A story that has it all. 
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4655996/How-charity-boss-fell-bogus-Calais-refugee.html
      But, as the Mail can reveal, the true story behind the temporary closure of this controversial charity is far more disturbing than that statement implies. The volunteer referred to is Mohamed Bajjar, a 28-year-old Tunisian who, we revealed earlier this year, had a year-long affair with Care4Calais’s 46-year-old married founder, Clare Moseley — the same boss who implemented a strict ‘no sex with refugees’ policy among staff.
       
      Read on for more of his Walter Mitty lifestyle 
      In the six months since his affair with Mrs Moseley ended, Bajjar has seemingly travelled with shocking ease between the UK and France, by charming his way into the affections of yet another gullible volunteer.
      The Mail has learned that Bajjar arrived in the UK in February this year, apparently smuggled into the country in the boot of a car driven by a British woman — another volunteer at Care4Calais.
      Once here, he blithely posted a video of a street singer in Central London on his Facebook page, writing that he ‘had to give him £10 as I didn’t have any change’.
      One of his friends responded: ‘Your [sic] in London now Kimo, wahoo’.
      While staying with the 30-year-old woman in London, he also visited the Manchester home of his British wife — as if this saga wasn’t bizarre enough. He’d married Carol Hutchings in Tunisia in 2014, not long before his odyssey to Europe began.
      Mother-of-two Mrs Hutchings, 54, met Bajjar in a nightclub during a holiday in 2009. They kept in touch via Skype and married in Sousse in March 2014.
      But when she realised Bajjar was only after her money, she refused to help him get into the UK. And when she heard he was posing as a Syrian refugee, she was horrified.
      He returned to Calais at the end of May, smuggled by the 30-year-old woman who’d helped him before.
      According to one of our sources, the woman was arrested by French police and questioned on suspicion of terrorism for three days before being released without charge.
      Bajjar attacked the Care4Calais warehouse three days later. Understandably, she says she no longer wants anything to do with Bajjar who, it is painfully obvious, is anything but a vulnerable refugee.
      His middle-class family owns a souk in Sousse, the Tunisian town near the resort where a terrorist shot dead 30 British tourists in 2015. His parents are currently building a large multi-storey property in the city.
      Bajjar left Tunisia in September 2014. According to Mrs Hutchings, his parents gave him ¤3,000 (about £2,600) to travel in a fishing boat from Tunis to Palermo, in Sicily, where he stayed with his sister for four months.
      When he next called Mrs Hutchings, he was in Germany, where he claimed asylum-seeker’s allowance by posing as a Syrian while working at a Coca-Cola factory just over the border in Poland.
      Eventually, however, the Germany authorities found out that Bajjar was Tunisian — everyone over the age of 16 in Tunisia is fingerprinted and they were able to match his prints.
      He left Hamburg in July 2015 before he could be deported, and headed to Calais, arriving days after David Cameron was condemned for describing migrants as ‘a swarm of people coming across the Mediterranean, seeking a better life, wanting to come to Britain.’
      It was there that he met Mrs Moseley, a high-flying accountant who has worked with firms including Ernst & Young and Deloitte while regularly carrying out charity work.
      She was a long-serving Prince’s Trust volunteer, providing free start-up advice to new businesses.


       
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.