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Solution to problems ‘will not be available before 2022 or 2023’

Swiss fruit specialist Lubera will be ending plant deliveries to UK gardeners after Brexit, the company’s founder has announced.

The UK gardening website, lubera.co.uk, carries this message: ‘Due to Brexit, we are not able to deliver to the UK.

“We are working on a solution on how we can continue to bring a wide range of Lubera plants to the UK and directly to our customers’ homes in the future. However, such a solution will not be available before 2022 or 2023.’

Marcus Kobelt, also a plant breeder, said: “In the name of biosecurity and also because of Brexit, Great Britain, the motherland of all gardeners, is now largely closing itself off from continental plant exchange.

‘Noah’s Ark’
“English breeders are asking us to act as a sort of Noah’s Ark to keep their plants on the continent so they can be propagated here.

Plant freedom remains our real motive at Lubera, and if plant persecution continues like this, we will soon have to choose that as our official slogan.

“Unfortunately, it fits the picture outlined above that from now on we can no longer send plants to the UK, to England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. This hurts me personally because I am a gardener who feels at home in the UK.

o.O

UK got new biosecurity measures that prevent imports?

Anyway, most such "problems" are also opportunities for a UK business to meet the demand. The main problem is how to create a more entrepreneurial culture here; getting out of the EU was a necessary but not in itself a sufficient measure IMO.

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14 minutes ago, Lightly Toasted said:

Solution to problems ‘will not be available before 2022 or 2023’

Swiss fruit specialist Lubera will be ending plant deliveries to UK gardeners after Brexit, the company’s founder has announced.

The UK gardening website, lubera.co.uk, carries this message: ‘Due to Brexit, we are not able to deliver to the UK.

“We are working on a solution on how we can continue to bring a wide range of Lubera plants to the UK and directly to our customers’ homes in the future. However, such a solution will not be available before 2022 or 2023.’

Marcus Kobelt, also a plant breeder, said: “In the name of biosecurity and also because of Brexit, Great Britain, the motherland of all gardeners, is now largely closing itself off from continental plant exchange.

‘Noah’s Ark’
“English breeders are asking us to act as a sort of Noah’s Ark to keep their plants on the continent so they can be propagated here.

Plant freedom remains our real motive at Lubera, and if plant persecution continues like this, we will soon have to choose that as our official slogan.

“Unfortunately, it fits the picture outlined above that from now on we can no longer send plants to the UK, to England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. This hurts me personally because I am a gardener who feels at home in the UK.

o.O

UK got new biosecurity measures that prevent imports?

Anyway, most such "problems" are also opportunities for a UK business to meet the demand. The main problem is how to create a more entrepreneurial culture here; getting out of the EU was a necessary but not in itself a sufficient measure IMO.

If there's a demand a way will be found. I wonder how much business they do with the UK? 

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There's a new set of rules for high-priority plant imports to UK from Jan 1st. (At least, that's the official story but as we all know anything could change at any time with no notice.) Without googling, who here knows what the new rules are?

Nobody, and neither does this company in the flogging plants business. So they have said can we really be arsed with it, no, we'll just update the website to say so long and thanks for all the plants.

I'm pretty appalled that people in this thread seem to be adopting the "well fuck em then we'll do without." Just so one in the eye for johnny foreigner. 

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Better understood in the context of the website the article came from. The website owner is a 'strong angry woman' (with purple hair) and is presumably making some sort of point about stupid racist brexiteers, although being a stupid racist brexiteer it's difficult to fathom the exact nature of it.  It would seem immigrant plants are better than native plants and there are problems in the horticultural world with plant phobia and persecution:

“Perhaps it is fitting at this point to mention that it is not the British flora that makes the UK the motherland of all gardeners, but all of the imported and immigrant plants that have enriched the diversity of island nature and its gardeners for over 1,000 years.

Mental.

 

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http://www.lubera.co.uk/plants/ornamental-shrubs/flowering-shrubs/witch-hazel/witch-hazel-diane

Due to Brexit, we are not able to deliver to the UK. We are working on a solution on how we can continue to bring a wide range of Lubera plants to the UK and directly to our customers' homes in the future. However, such a solution will not be available before 2022 or 2023.

Assuming I've got the right org ... Its a tiny company sells fruit plants.

They dont have anyone who can workout  what export rules are going to be, so are shelving what are probably very small volume of exports.

https://www.dnb.com/business-directory/company-profiles.lubera_ag.b1b791d6d67f14f91564a289edc23ff0.html

Lubera AG is located in Buchs SG, SANKT GALLEN, Switzerland and is part of the Farm Support Services Industry. Lubera AG has 5 employees at this location and generates $3.95 million in sales (USD). There are 2 companies in the Lubera AG corporate family

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Funn3r said:

I'm pretty appalled that people in this thread seem to be adopting the "well fuck em then we'll do without." Just so one in the eye for johnny foreigner. 

I'm not sure that's really a thing. I'm happy for the UK to satisfy more of its demand. Given our trade deficit and the number of idle potential workers, I'd have wanted that regardless of Brexit.

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28 minutes ago, Funn3r said:

There's a new set of rules for high-priority plant imports to UK from Jan 1st. (At least, that's the official story but as we all know anything could change at any time with no notice.) Without googling, who here knows what the new rules are?

Nobody, and neither does this company in the flogging plants business. So they have said can we really be arsed with it, no, we'll just update the website to say so long and thanks for all the plants.

I'm pretty appalled that people in this thread seem to be adopting the "well fuck em then we'll do without." Just so one in the eye for johnny foreigner. 

2022 or 2023 reads as they are the ones thinking "fuck em". 

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1 hour ago, Caravan Monster said:

Better understood in the context of the website the article came from. The website owner is a 'strong angry woman' (with purple hair) and is presumably making some sort of point about stupid racist brexiteers, although being a stupid racist brexiteer it's difficult to fathom the exact nature of it.  It would seem immigrant plants are better than native plants and there are problems in the horticultural world with plant phobia and persecution:

“Perhaps it is fitting at this point to mention that it is not the British flora that makes the UK the motherland of all gardeners, but all of the imported and immigrant plants that have enriched the diversity of island nature and its gardeners for over 1,000 years.

Mental.

 

Tell that to those whose gardens are infested with Japanese knotweed. 

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2 hours ago, Caravan Monster said:

“Perhaps it is fitting at this point to mention that it is not the British flora that makes the UK the motherland of all gardeners, but all of the imported and immigrant plants that have enriched the diversity of island nature and its gardeners for over 1,000 years.

Mental.

 

Try that argument to get plants through Australian customs and see where it gets you.

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3 minutes ago, One percent said:

Literally. o.O

Well, JK does show us all how extraordinarily better immigrant plants can be -- they're so brilliant at being plants that they can take attack with glyphosphate and keep coming back for more.

Of course, many people might knot want them to be quite so good at being plants, but that's a different story.

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Would this be an appropriate place to discuss initiatives like the Heritage Seed Library?

I'm sure you're all familiar with the brilliant idea of the “Plant Reproductive Material Law” set forth by our lords and masters in the EU.

A move which set out to criminalise the proliferation of non-approved varieties of vegetation by evil gardeners who refused to grow what they were told to by those who obviously know far better. It all makes hypocritical talk about Brexit limiting British gardeners' choices ring rather hollow.

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2 hours ago, Virgil Caine said:

Try that argument to get plants through Australian customs and see where it gets you.

About 15 years ago I woman I knew got fined $200 when the Aussie customs found an apple in her bag.

She wasn't trying to smuggle it in, just dim enough to forget that it was there.

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