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The future of the So-Called BBC

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3 hours ago, lid said:

The bin lids all watch YouTube 

The BBCs goose is cooked ūüė¨

If they returned to their original news remit instead of acting like a propaganda tool, people would rally round and support them. I would, and many others, a reasonably balanced news and information source is of immense value and well worth a licence fee. But they won't, I think they would have to be disbanded and reformed with great care to achieve that now.

Their future doom is their own fault.

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I watch Netflix and Amazon Prime video for entertainment and get my news from the internet as do many other people I know. BlueCat junior adds Youtube to the mix. When a sufficient proportion of the population are doing the same it just won't be possible to justify the license fee anymore and they'll be privatized.

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Hardly ever watch the B.B.C though their current affairs coverage is only part of the reason. In fact it is far from being the worse aspect of the organisation. Mainly it is because their output is poor, boring, pedestrian and predictable. Hard to recognise it as the outfit that made so many ground breaking programs in the 1960s and 1970s

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Very rarely watch it due to never finding anything worth watching.

My wife had it on for a bit last night..  some guy trying to confuse a class full of kids about their genders.   Totally contradictory messages,.  "Boys and girls are exactly the same" in one breath,  followed by "boys are not as good as girls at expressing emotions in words,  but boys have better spatial awareness".  

Seriously,  how are our kids ever going to compete with the Chinese if all they are being taught is a load of half cock SJW cockwomblery from specialists who lack even rudamentary reasoning skills?

Now Peter Rabbit has finished on iplayer for the kids I can't think of any good reason to renew the license this year..  utter, utter, crap

 

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My teenage kids have no interest in watching television. All online, mainly YouTube, Netflix, Amazon. If my son wants to watch some sport he'll catch the highlights/goals on YouTube. Daughter watches films. Son loves watching history and motoring videos - tons online. They have no need for the So-Called BBC. Son, who is interested in politics, is suitably dubious of the So-Called BBC news service anyway as he's grown up with his dad ranting at the TV (!)  and pinpointing the manipulation - it was obviously going on way before Brexit and Trump.  

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BBC is an irrelevance in our household, it means nothing to our kids, there will be no nostalgia from their generation to save the So-Called BBC.

We still pay the licence fee as we havn't cut out broadcast tv entirely, but are getting close.

Radio4 was the last bbc service I used, but I have now stopped listening to that too.

 

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When the Scott Trust's money is finally spent by the Guardian (six or seven years' left at current rates) they will then merge with what is left of the So-Called BBC into a SJW singularity.

Polly Toynbee will be unveiled as the new GBBC James Bond and The GBBC News will be presented and edited by Owen Jones and Laurie Penny who will find as yet undreamed of levels of discrimination defining each news story.

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6 minutes ago, snagger said:

BBC is an irrelevance in our household, it means nothing to our kids, there will be no nostalgia from their generation to save the So-Called BBC.

We still pay the licence fee as we havn't cut out broadcast tv entirely, but are getting close.

Radio4 was the last bbc service I used, but I have now stopped listening to that too.

 

Likewise, only a matter of time and no goodwill left for the the beeb, cannot get shot of them quick enough.

 

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Not entirely abandoned it in our house, as still often have R4 or WS on in the background. Force of habit and not usually listening anyway. Not had a TV for years and feel much better for it.

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I think you're all far too positive.

The government of the day tends to be terrified of the So-Called BBC and kowtow to their every demand. Timid Cameron secured their future until at least 2026 IIRC. After that, they'll just lobby the government to add the Telly Tax onto council tax. We won't be avoiding it then!

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The government SHOULD be terrified of the So-Called BBC, because the So-Called BBC should be one of the cornerstones of our democracy, a fair and balanced news outlet that holds governments and opposition to account. However, the So-Called BBC has been steadily infiltrated and now taken over with a certain mindset, so they're still afraid of them, but for the wrong reasons.

 

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14 minutes ago, swissy_fit said:

The government SHOULD be terrified of the So-Called BBC, because the So-Called BBC should be one of the cornerstones of our democracy, a fair and balanced news outlet that holds governments and opposition to account. However, the So-Called BBC has been steadily infiltrated and now taken over with a certain mindset, so they're still afraid of them, but for the wrong reasons.

 

Indeed. One of the biggest mistakes that Theresa May has made, like Cameron before her, is that pandering to the So-Called BBC is only popular with progressive leftists - and these people will never vote for the Tories anyway.

The only people threatening to reign in the So-Called BBC are the DUP. None of the mainland parties, even UKIP, have made it part of their manifesto.

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It's ok for the kids, however so is the rest of the content.

The news in the morning is absolute shite. It's One Show levels of naff reporting and some of the content is cringeworthy in the extreme. 

This morning was a Diana fest (oh, do fuck off) followed closely by the trials and tribulations of the over-75's hockey team. I'd have more respect for them if they said 'sorry, not much is happening so here's a few re-runs of Blackadder until it does'.

My other problem is the standard of some of the complete fucking loons that they give airtime to. The halfwit going on about pulling statues down is a prime example. On a more sinister note, how much mileage did they give the group CAGE until it slowly dawned upon them that it was a Jihadist lobby group who thought Jihadi John was an ok sort of a guy?

I would have stuck up for Radio 4 but that seems to have turned into a feminist mouthpiece with a tedious amount of articles devoted to the female struggle. One or two, fine but for fucks sake, enough already.

Womens Hour is a flat disgrace, even Mrs H. thinks it's way out of line. 

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20 minutes ago, Sgt Hartman said:

I would have stuck up for Radio 4 but that seems to have turned into a feminist mouthpiece with a tedious amount of articles devoted to the female struggle. One or two, fine but for fucks sake, enough already.

Radio 4 mostly lost me when the comedy stuff stopped being remotely funny and then finally lost me when the news went full on remoaner after the referendum (https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/04/brexit-bias-bbc-no-duty-balanced-says-nick-robinson/).

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40 minutes ago, Sgt Hartman said:

It's ok for the kids, however so is the rest of the content.

The news in the morning is absolute shite. It's One Show levels of naff reporting and some of the content is cringeworthy in the extreme. 

This morning was a Diana fest (oh, do fuck off) followed closely by the trials and tribulations of the over-75's hockey team. I'd have more respect for them if they said 'sorry, not much is happening so here's a few re-runs of Blackadder until it does'.

My other problem is the standard of some of the complete fucking loons that they give airtime to. The halfwit going on about pulling statues down is a prime example. On a more sinister note, how much mileage did they give the group CAGE until it slowly dawned upon them that it was a Jihadist lobby group who thought Jihadi John was an ok sort of a guy?

I would have stuck up for Radio 4 but that seems to have turned into a feminist mouthpiece with a tedious amount of articles devoted to the female struggle. One or two, fine but for fucks sake, enough already.

Womens Hour is a flat disgrace, even Mrs H. thinks it's way out of line. 

I listened to Women's Hour the other week; first time for years.

It was like a spoken word version of the Feminist Talk section of Mumsnet which represents about 5% of women as far as I can tell.

And it had zero dissenting voices or debate; just everyone agreeing with the most loony stuff. It was about gender in schools IIRC with it somehow being society's fault that young boys enjoy getting muddy and fighting and young girls don't.  Needless to say the solution was feminising the boys.

 

It used to be an okay (ish) listen but I'm probably going back twenty years.  And Jane Garvey used to be so funny with Peter Allen on Radio 5; when did she turn into a humourless Andrea Dworkin clone?

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8 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

I listened to Women's Hour the other week; first time for years.

It was like a spoken word version of the Feminist Talk section of Mumsnet which represents about 5% of women as far as I can tell.

And it had zero dissenting voices or debate; just everyone agreeing with the most loony stuff. It was about gender in schools IIRC with it somehow being society's fault that young boys enjoy getting muddy and fighting and young girls don't.  Needless to say the solution was feminising the boys.

 

It used to be an okay (ish) listen but I'm probably going back twenty years.  And Jane Garvey used to be so funny with Peter Allen on Radio 5; when did she turn into a humourless Andrea Dworkin clone?

What really irked me was when they would invite a guest on the program and then harangue them to agree with their agenda of female persecution, even when the guest clearly wasn't interested in doing so or it would completely divert the conversation from the topic being discussed.

I remember listening to Jenny Murray get quite shitty with a female guest who was a scientist I think, when she refused to go along with her questioning. I'll paraphrase:

"So you are obviously very successful and well respected in your field?"

"I would say so, but that's down to dedication and hard work."

"And how did you deal with male oppression in such a patriarchal environment?"

"I beg your pardon?"

"How did you deal with male oppression where you worked?"

"I didn't. Because there wasn't any."

"Surely in such a male-dominated field you experienced persecution or ill treatment?

"No. None."

"I find that very hard to believe."

"Excuse me? Perhaps it exists in the industry, all I'm saying is that I never experienced it. Nor did anyone I know."

"Really?"

"No. What do you want me to say!?"

"I think we'll leave it there. Thank you..."

 

Mrs H. and I both listened in the car to this and were astonished. The female scientist was clearly very pissed off with how it had gone. Really piss poor behaviour from R4.

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, steppensheep said:

Their strategy of targetting the youth audience was idiocy. They should be producing entertainment for oldies.

Well that will kill them off eventually as that audiences dies. My daughter and her friends don't watch TV at all, it's all streamed services and don't listen to radio, again they stream music. Even in my generation conversations with others reveal very few of my friends and colleagues watch TV anymore, our conversations are along the lines of which box set to watch next. The in laws do but they are in their 70's hurtling towards 80.

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6 minutes ago, Dipsy said:

Well that will kill them off eventually as that audiences dies. My daughter and her friends don't watch TV at all, it's all streamed services and don't listen to radio, again they stream music. Even in my generation conversations with others reveal very few of my friends and colleagues watch TV anymore, our conversations are along the lines of which box set to watch next. The in laws do but they are in their 70's hurtling towards 80.

I ran the numbers before so won't rework them, but for ease say people have fifty years of licence buying (25 to 75) and everyone now aged 75 has one but only half of those currently aged 24 will buy one.

This drops the current paying licence numbers from a current 100% to 50% at the rate of 1% a year.  Nice business model.

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Imagine how popular the iPlayer would be if the So-Called BBC released their entire back catalogue onto it from the 50s onwards. I'd love to watch stuff from the 70s and 80s even early 90s before it went to shit. But they've always resisted it for some reason.

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5 minutes ago, spunko2010 said:

Imagine how popular the iPlayer would be if the So-Called BBC released their entire back catalogue onto it from the 50s onwards. I'd love to watch stuff from the 70s and 80s even early 90s before it went to shit. But they've always resisted it for some reason.

Probably because they know we would all compare and contrast, working out how dire their output has become. 

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5 minutes ago, spunko2010 said:

Imagine how popular the iPlayer would be if the So-Called BBC released their entire back catalogue onto it from the 50s onwards. I'd love to watch stuff from the 70s and 80s even early 90s before it went to shit. But they've always resisted it for some reason.

Great point..  their older work really was the best!

Perhaps they worry they won't sell as many Christmas box sets if they do?

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