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Great report on BBC about moving to a four day working week system

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55485010

Oh, it all sounds so wonderful.  All the work gets done, but in less time!  Great!

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It claims a reduction in hours would be entirely offset by increases in productivity and price increases, in the best-cases.

Even under the worst-case, a four-day week with no loss of pay would be affordable for most firms once the initial phase of the Covid-19 crisis has passed, it said.

Yeah!  We can just be more productive (because we're currently slackers) and price increases (because all producers are ignorant of the fact that they should price their goods at the amount customers are willing to pay).  Stupid not-so-productive employees and companies under-pricing goods -- that's why we work five days a week.

But the best bit is halfway through...

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He said the government should investigate ways of rolling out a four-day week, starting with the public sector.

I was going to comment on that -- but I decided there wasn't any point.

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Just now, dgul said:

Great report on BBC about moving to a four day working week system

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55485010

Oh, it all sounds so wonderful.  All the work gets done, but in less time!  Great!

Yeah!  We can just be more productive (because we're currently slackers) and price increases (because all producers are ignorant of the fact that they should price their goods at the amount customers are willing to pay).  Stupid not-so-productive employees and companies under-pricing goods -- that's why we work five days a week.

But the best bit is halfway through...

I was going to comment on that -- but I decided there wasn't any point.

After 30 odd years of telling us plebs that we are all lazy bastards and need to work harder.  

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On the basis there is some harmonisation globally it could work. If there isn't then there is a lot less tangible benefit than there was from the 1930s migration of a 6 day week to a 5 day week. At this point he who moves first would IMO cross over the inflection point and start paying for increased leisure time for staff while overall productivity decreases. I don't think it'd be much as I reckon people would produce more in the 4 days they do work but nonetheless it harms our competitiveness at a time we're already mortally wounded. As for the public sector doing it, take out some front line workers and bin men then I daresay no-one would f**king notice if they went down to a 3 day week. Providing they actually did some work in those 3 days it'd be very achievable. 

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13 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

Never work a Wednesday: it spoils two weekends.

I'd love Wednesdays off. Never at work for more than 2 days in a row. Not enough time to get stressed out over anything. Many say they would prefer a long weekend instead, well fair enough. No point us all having the same days off.

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5 minutes ago, Sucralose Ray Leonard said:

I'd love Wednesdays off. Never at work for more than 2 days in a row. Not enough time to get stressed out over anything. Many say they would prefer a long weekend instead, well fair enough. No point us all having the same days off.

That's why I took today off. My wife says I should have taken tomorrow but I was happy to only work 2 consecutive days this week. 

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I was on a 3 day week for a few months earlier in the year as I had a ton of leave to use.

It was the perfect balance IMO; the 'free time' portion of the week tipped slightly in your favor.

And I think many people on project type work would work a lot harder/faster if they imposed an artificial deadline of 3 days a week to do the work in.

I'd also be open to the idea of a 4 day working week, done over 3 days....would work out as a 10 hour working day.

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Alan Rae works in Switzerland for a tech start-up specialising in the Internet of Things.

"I work a four day week, or 80% job as it's called here in Switzerland," he told the BBC.

"Monday-Thursday is super productive, and I spend Friday with my children."

Alan's wife works a similar 50-70% of the working week, "which means we both get to have careers and spend full solo days with our children during the week. Weekends are longer too, which means we have a great work/life balance.

He, however, is technically part time. "The downside is I earn 80% of a 100% salary, but with my wife working too and us both sharing childcare, it works for us."

Err yes mate... this is part time, something people have been doing since the year dot so no idea why it's in an article about a full hours 4 day week.

I remember when I was a student, I did a full time job but only 20% of the hours for 20% of a 100% salary.

 

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14 minutes ago, JoeDavola said:

I was on a 3 day week for a few months earlier in the year as I had a ton of leave to use.

It was the perfect balance IMO; the 'free time' portion of the week tipped slightly in your favor.

And I think many people on project type work would work a lot harder/faster if they imposed an artificial deadline of 3 days a week to do the work in.

I'd also be open to the idea of a 4 day working week, done over 3 days....would work out as a 10 hour working day.

I think you need to have good hobbies to fill your extra time. Not Netflix.

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2 hours ago, SillyBilly said:

As for the public sector doing it, take out some front line workers and bin men then I daresay no-one would f**king notice if they went down to a 3 day week. 

In Wales, if your bins were due to be collected on a Bank Holiday the collection was not rescheduled, it was cancelled.

You must wait until your next collection date.

Helpfully, recycling centres have opened as normal.

When councils in Wales run out of money, which they will, who do you think will be out of a job first ?

Will it be teachers sitting at home on full pay since March ?

No.

It will be our bin men.

We will be told to take our rubbish to the recycling centres.

You can also expect to be charged a fee each visit. To cover the environmental process certification.

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2 hours ago, JoeDavola said:

I was on a 3 day week for a few months earlier in the year as I had a ton of leave to use.

It was the perfect balance IMO; the 'free time' portion of the week tipped slightly in your favor

I did a four day week for a couple of years, always wondered about going down to three and as you say tipping the week in favour of leisure. Either way the 4 on/3 off  ratio is very noticeable compared to 5/2.

Then there's those cunts who complain about bank holidays because they'll be too busy in the remaining 4 days 🙄

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27 minutes ago, Bedrag Justesen said:

In Wales, if your bins were due to be collected on a Bank Holiday the collection was not rescheduled, it was cancelled.

You must wait until your next collection date.

Helpfully, recycling centres have opened as normal.

When councils in Wales run out of money, which they will, who do you think will be out of a job first ?

Will it be teachers sitting at home on full pay since March ?

No.

It will be our bin men.

We will be told to take our rubbish to the recycling centres.

You can also expect to be charged a fee each visit. To cover the environmental process certification.

The history of refuse collection is interesting as the term Dust comes up as in Dustcart, Dustbin wagon and Dustbin itself.

The biggest refuse in the early days of urbanisation during the industrial revolution was 'Coal ash' or 'dust' as it was known and in London where there was a lot of it, it had value, so dust yards were set up to collect it for brick making and fertilising fields.

Waste collection as we know it now had to be mandated as volumes of waste increased and the value of 'dust' decreased so the Public Health Act 1875 was passed, this made it compulsory for every household to deposit their weekly waste in 'moveable receptacles' for disposal - the first concept for a dust-bin.

A Council not collecting waste would I imagine be in breach of this act and the Law.

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2 hours ago, Sucralose Ray Leonard said:

I'd love Wednesdays off. Never at work for more than 2 days in a row. Not enough time to get stressed out over anything. Many say they would prefer a long weekend instead, well fair enough. No point us all having the same days off.

I do this too and love it. No long weeks. Bring in a 4 day week for everyone as far as I'm concerned. I can either work the same or move to a 3 day week lol. Work sucks. Don't know why so many people think it's so great. It's just a waste of your life unless you working for yourself.

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13 hours ago, Bedrag Justesen said:

No.

It will be our bin men.

We will be told to take our rubbish to the recycling centres.

You can also expect to be charged a fee each visit. To cover the environmental process certification.

Fairly common in many parts of the world.

Of course I won't have a problem with it given the logical reduction in council tax to account for the removal of the service :)

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16 hours ago, Sucralose Ray Leonard said:

I'd love Wednesdays off. Never at work for more than 2 days in a row. Not enough time to get stressed out over anything. Many say they would prefer a long weekend instead, well fair enough. No point us all having the same days off.

In my department at my last place there were several women on four day weeks - they all had Friday as their non-working day - and a lot of people working from home on a Friday.

I liked to be in on Fridays because it was so quiet that I could catch up on my own work without interruption but the company really didn't function properly on that day.  Meetings were generally non-existent and if you emailed somebody you could be waiting an hour for a response.

It would have been far more efficient to put everyone on a four day week Monday - Thursday.

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8 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

In my department at my last place there were several women on four day weeks - they all had Friday as their non-working day - and a lot of people working from home on a Friday.

I liked to be in on Fridays because it was so quiet that I could catch up on my own work without interruption but the company really didn't function properly on that day.  Meetings were generally non-existent and if you emailed somebody you could be waiting an hour for a response.

It would have been far more efficient to put everyone on a four day week Monday - Thursday.

The beauty of that is that you have an easy day in the office as you said. So whilst the rest have Friday as their day off, you in effect get an easy office day, so only really doing a 3-3.5 day week. Lovely Jubbly.

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