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Pandemic coming? - Coronavirus January 2021 onwards (Part 5)


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3 minutes ago, PaulParanoia said:

These two graphs tell the whole story now ...

Cases

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Deaths

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Clearly a 'casedemic' for all to see.  The Epidemic ended in June and the winter Endemic spread is in line with previous years.

Government is destroying lives and the economy for no reason.

Cant see your deaths graph but I can imagine what it looks like. 

Completely agree with your analysis, but no reason, or not the given reason? In my opinion they are prolonging the scamdemic to save face. If they drag it out to May, then they can claim that their lockdowns and the vaccine have saved us all.

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6 minutes ago, Mirror Mirror said:

Cant see your deaths graph but I can imagine what it looks like. 

Completely agree with your analysis, but no reason, or not the given reason? In my opinion they are prolonging the scamdemic to save face. If they drag it out to May, then they can claim that their lockdowns and the vaccine have saved us all.

They could have started winding down the panic after Easter. Indeed there were signs of that in the summer - 'eat out to help out' etc. But there was clearly a change of tack by July, which was when the mask mandate came in. After that the gradual 'second wave' BS started building.

Plus, they can't wind down unless other countries do as well, or we will be a pariah state.

Pray that this is all just a misguided attempt to 'do good' rather than something much, much more sinister.

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4 minutes ago, Austin Allegro said:

They could have started winding down the panic after Easter. Indeed there were signs of that in the summer - 'eat out to help out' etc. But there was clearly a change of tack by July, which was when the mask mandate came in. After that the gradual 'second wave' BS started building.

Plus, they can't wind down unless other countries do as well, or we will be a pariah state.

Pray that this is all just a misguided attempt to 'do good' rather than something much, much more sinister.

Yes that’s a good point, but I would counter it by saying that in the summer they still weren’t sure if there would be a ‘second wave’, and back then the truth about PCR false positives hadn’t broken. I can believe that for a while they genuinely thought that “cases” were increasing and that Armageddon was always just around the next corner. Now they have painted themselves into a corner and the only way out is a door marked ‘vaccine’.

And Im aware that they are not ‘winding down’ yet, but if they do it won’t be until May. Clearly this is all coordinated, after all 11 other European countries acted on the advice of Ferguson’s bullshit models.

But you may well be right that it’s something more sinister. I still hope (obviously) and believe that it’s nothing worse than a face saving exercise, which would be bad enough, since it would mean that a political party is prepared to sacrifice millions of jobs, thousands of small businesses, the physical and mental health of countless people, children’s education, even a complete way of life for its own ends. Of course this doesn’t explain why the opposition are all in favour of it too.

Sorry, that’s as far as my thinking takes me.

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19 minutes ago, geordie_lurch said:

If you die within 28 days of a positive Covid test then it goes down as Covid but if you die within days of the vaccine then its unrelated :ph34r:

 

It’s the same ‘doublethink’ that allows a migrant to be British 5 minutes after arriving here, if he has committed a crime or act of terrorism, but simultaneously still be oppressed by colonialism from over 2 centuries ago.

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1 hour ago, PaulParanoia said:

These two graphs tell the whole story now ...

Cases

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Deaths

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Clearly a 'casedemic' for all to see.  The Epidemic ended in June and the winter Endemic spread is in line with previous years.

Government is destroying lives and the economy for no reason.

Thank you for posting this. It's hard to get context when the fear porn begins in the MSM. Obviously there is a lag factor but it doesn't look that abnormal for deaths does it?

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1 minute ago, Democorruptcy said:

At the press conference the new killer strain slide showed it had already dropped off in the SE/London before the end of the year. Well before this new lockdown. Obviously good news but Twitty tells us "you mustn't over interpret that". We only have to believe bad news?

There's been a bit of a theme of ratcheting up measures after the crisis point has passed.

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6 minutes ago, Democorruptcy said:

Why are we supposed to trust people who apparently have only just realised that if you give people one dose instead of two, you can vaccinate twice as many people?

Why not give half a dose then? Likely the same amount of data available for that as one dose instead of the recommended and at least partially researched double dose.

How much of a dose is minimum? Seems they don't yet know.

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1 minute ago, BoSon said:

Why not give half a dose then? Likely the same amount of data available for that as one dose instead of the recommended and at least partially researched double dose.

How much of a dose is minimum? Seems they don't yet know.

They initially said the Friesyer had 40% efficacy from the first 1/2 dose (discovered by accident but adopted because people had less bad reactions than a full dose), then 95% after the second full dose. At 40% efficacy all the people who have the first dose are still 60% at risk. Presumably they think dropping the dose by another 50% to 20% and having people still at 80% risk defeats the object.

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5 hours ago, Chewing Grass said:

 

@Frank Hovis This is interesting, just been playing with the Hargreaves Lansdown Drawdown Calculator and their actuarial average life expectancy for someone born in 1965 is 85, whereas someone born in 1939 at the start of WW2 is 90...

The numbers and ages are random so have a play yourselves, here was me thinking blokes were supposed to be living longer.

https://www.hl.co.uk/retirement/drawdown/calculator

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Is it confirmation bias? The chance of living to 100 goes up from 1 in 12 to 1 in 8 for the newer cohort, implying that either:

1) 1965 lot are likely to live longer

2) lots of 1965 lot dying young. 

I would hazard a guess that it's self-selective because anyone from 1939 reading it now is already 81 (so you're saying of those remaining, 50% will live another 9 years and 8% another 19) whereas the 1965 cohort are only 55. So there are still a lot who won't make it to 85 to skew it downwards but actually 12% will make it to 100. 

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9 minutes ago, eight said:

Apparently the claim has just been made that 1 in 50 UK population are currently infected.

 

3 minutes ago, mooncat69 said:

The bodies must be piling up in the streets

Well lets use the official data from the last 7 days.

So 391615 have tested positive and of those 4738 have died so that is 1.2% are GOING TO DIE.

So if 1:50 have it now out of a population of 67 Million then 804000 people are going to die (ignoring the collapse of the NHS) in the next 28 days - game over.

Also if 1:50 are infected now then 1:20 will be infected by this time next week and the vaccine is pointless.

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