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Skin in the game


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Just a quick discussion based on my conversation with a mate earlier. Does anyone know any Covidists who don't have any skin in the game?

Most of ones that I know are on furlough. 

Another one sells face masks. 

And another one is angling for a welcome return to bennies.

They're all benefiting financially in some way from covid, but perhaps don't realise it, at least not consciously. Anyone know any rabid Covidists where they're not personally gorging/benefiting? Genuine question...

 

 

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Nope i know a few ardent believers but they have just been fully hoodwinked by the MSM ,ask them anything and it`s just like talking to the BBC or Hancock`s half hour ,i even had some say i reckon the government are lying to us ,i thought fuck they have woken up ,like fuck they reckoned it was far worse than they are letting on:o

It`s starting to frighten me now and sadden me at the same time 

 

 

 

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The Generation Game
30 minutes ago, spunko said:

Just a quick discussion based on my conversation with a mate earlier. Does anyone know any Covidists who don't have any skin in the game?

Most of ones that I know are on furlough. 

Another one sells face masks. 

And another one is angling for a welcome return to bennies.

They're all benefiting financially in some way from covid, but perhaps don't realise it, at least not consciously. Anyone know any rabid Covidists where they're not personally gorging/benefiting? Genuine question...

 

 

My folks. Get all their info from the Beeb. TBF they are pushing 75 so I can't begrudge them wanting vaccines. 

As they are retired and spend most of their time pottering around the garden or on the internet, I'm not sure they've missed out on much over the last 10 months. 

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Whowhywhen?

I think you have to include all publice sector as "skin in the game".

Assuming that, I don't know any covidists without "skin in the game".

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Surely anyone who owns their own business can see this is a farce? Those who stick to the government line are only doing so on the assumption they'll be getting some cash from them

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WorkingPoor

A very good question and one i was preparing to post myself.

There are 3 types of people we are dealing with here but 2 of them have alot of skin in the game and it is not as black n white as it first appears........

Type 1. The covid deniers and lockdown sceptics,

At first glance these people seem to be like us but look closer and read between the lines.....the Telegraph comments section is where this crowd has congregated en masse and by reading what they are saying you will see that as well as "covid denying" and "lockdown sceptism" almost every post also includes heavy reference to "THE Economy" which is what they are really concerned about, 

These are the people who are heavily invested in the game but havent quite made it yet and are desperate for the rug not to be pulled before they make it, these are your self employed types and overstretched big mortgage, performance family,  keeping up with the jonses types. 

Yes, type 1 is perhaps the most insidious, because they are hiding their true motives for wanting a dropping of all restrictions. 

 

Type 2. The pro Covidists

These are the ones who have made it, mortgages paid off, pensions rolling in etc or perhaps public sector wfh or big corp full sick pay and 100% furlough types.

This type never wants it to end and are now becoming very smart in manuipulating the rules n regs in their favour, going back to india whilst telling their employer they have "long covid" etc 

Another aim of some Type 2 may also be to keep the fear up in order to get people to comply so this will all end sooner, this is usually a self employed businessman who is staring at financial ruin, they will make alarmist posts in social media about "covid is real, ive beeen bad for 10 days please stay indoors" etc this type is a real scumbag but they are present in significant numbers. Some also just want to get back out to their holiday villas as soon as possible. 

 

Type 3. The crashists and singletons without skin in the game

This type has nothing to lose and everything to gain from the pandemic and restrictions, a "settling of scores" if you like.

Usually high level of cash savings but no property ownership and no or little responsibilities to a self centred society based on greed and the generations before fucking over the upcoming. 

If type 3 can keep his/her powder dry and remain in employment then they will emerge the other side as kings, type 3 has been loving all this from the start! 

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Are there any more types? 

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I know some who are furloughed and some who are receiving business support of varying types.

All were previously vocally critical of the benefits system but have been more than happy to take anything coming their way thank you very much. All with the programme, the media and government.

The rest are all working, some under very difficult circumstances, many just getting on with it but sick of the whole thing. Some self employed who are really struggling and have slipped through the various safety nets and are facing bankruptcy. All not with the programme, the media or government 

Very interesting divide. 

The first group I describe above seem oblivious to the fact that eventually the money taps will be turned off and that point is getting closer by the day. 

I can hear the screams in the future, because some are going to be out of work or out of business. They just haven't realised it yet.

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23 minutes ago, WorkingPoor said:

If type 3 can keep his/her powder dry and remain in employment they they will emerge the other side as kings, type 3 has been loving all this from the start! 

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Are there any more types? 

I thought you were a postman like Postman Pat. Turns out you're more of a postman like Kevin Costner in that movie, I forget what it's called. 

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9 minutes ago, eight said:

I thought you were a postman like Postman Pat. Turns out you're more of a postman like Kevin Costner in that movie, I forget what it's called. 

I reckon your Type 1

Deffo got skin in the game but not quite got your fingertips to the ledge yet, would turn pro-covidist at that point. 

The rug could be pulled and it all go down the swanny. 

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I am busier than usual writing. That won't sound unusual when you consider that I specialise in virtual orchestra scores using realistic sound banks. 

Covid has accelerated what was probably coming in the music industry. I think theatres will reopen with small cores of the orchestra padded out with click track brass/strings/woodwinds (was already happening to a degree). More orchestral scores on movies will be virtual - again, was already happening in pretty expensive movies too - at least in the 'filler' music if not the title music.

It's not a case of 'I'm alright Jack' though. I haven't played in a group for almost a year now. That was the vast majority of my social life and it's been ripped from me. It's a social life for tens of thousands of other people too: Pro, Semi-pro, amateur alike. A bit more money does not come close to being worth the price.

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6 minutes ago, WorkingPoor said:

I reckon your Type 1

Deffo got skin in the game but not quite got your fingertips to the ledge yet, would turn pro-covidist at that point. 

The rug could be pulled and it all go down the swanny. 

xD I defy all attempts at classification.

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9 minutes ago, maynardgravy said:

I am busier than usual writing. That won't sound unusual when you consider that I specialise in virtual orchestra scores using realistic sound banks. 

Covid has accelerated what was probably coming in the music industry. I think theatres will reopen with small cores of the orchestra padded out with click track brass/strings/woodwinds (was already happening to a degree). More orchestral scores on movies will be virtual - again, was already happening in pretty expensive movies too - at least in the 'filler' music if not the title music.

It's not a case of 'I'm alright Jack' though. I haven't played in a group for almost a year now. That was the vast majority of my social life and it's been ripped from me. It's a social life for tens of thousands of other people too: Pro, Semi-pro, amateur alike. A bit more money does not come close to being worth the price.

Tech goes in lurches, a lot thought orchestras would disappear when the first samplers came on the scene ,truth was the samples either made  a passing copy of the real thing or uninteresting additional tonal quality to the existing sting machines / synths. Vocoders started off just as voice manipulating tools. Probably enough push and processing power to get almost totally convincing "humanised" instrument and vocal sound sources 40 odd years later.  Howling till a virtual "rock" band all audio and video hits to the top ten or even number one

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41 minutes ago, eight said:

I thought you were a postman like Postman Pat. Turns out you're more of a postman like Kevin Costner in that movie, I forget what it's called. 

You're thinking of Waterworld. A great film.

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3 hours ago, onlyme said:

Tech goes in lurches, a lot thought orchestras would disappear when the first samplers came on the scene ,truth was the samples either made  a passing copy of the real thing or uninteresting additional tonal quality to the existing sting machines / synths. Vocoders started off just as voice manipulating tools. Probably enough push and processing power to get almost totally convincing "humanised" instrument and vocal sound sources 40 odd years later.  Howling till a virtual "rock" band all audio and video hits to the top ten or even number one

It's not the concert/gig type music though - it's everything else. Believe me  - it's been creeping in more and more. I have some software called EastWest Symphonic choirs which creates Carmina Burana (Old Spice/The Omen) like SATB huge choirs that you can program your own words into. It's incredible and is used in many top films rather than getting a choir in.

The first samplers were shocking compared to what's available now.

No one is going to pay to watch a synthetic choir or orchestra, but a producer is not going to hire one when he/she can get a nerd behind a computer to knock it together in a few hours for a car chase or a razor add.

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7 hours ago, dgul said:

You're thinking of Waterworld. A great film.

No, @eightis  right. Costner was also a postman. I think the storyline centered on the postman wandering around a post apocalyptic Crawley, delivering overdue mortgage payment demands to drossers.... Or something like that. 

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3 minutes ago, Popuplights said:

No, @eightis  right. Costner was also a postman. I think the storyline centered on the postman wandering around a post apocalyptic Crawley, delivering overdue mortgage payment demands to drossers.... Or something like that. 

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It really doesn't look like Crawley in the picture.  Perhaps it was Blackpool?

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Just now, dgul said:

It really doesn't look like Crawley in the picture.  Perhaps it was Blackpool?

Morecambe or Southport given the breadth of those sands.

The lack of Chinese cocklers and gang masters means a punt on the latter.

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21 hours ago, spunko said:

Just a quick discussion based on my conversation with a mate earlier. Does anyone know any Covidists who don't have any skin in the game?

Most of ones that I know are on furlough. 

Another one sells face masks. 

And another one is angling for a welcome return to bennies.

They're all benefiting financially in some way from covid, but perhaps don't realise it, at least not consciously. Anyone know any rabid Covidists where they're not personally gorging/benefiting? Genuine question...

 

 

Most are looseing nothing it’s either a free 20 a week extra an adult or on mainly full pay or retirements so unafected.even when I was at work I was against the lockdown 

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I think also a lot of office workers who can genuinely work from home are rather enjoying not having a commute or having to sit in the office all day.

For that demographic, even though they didn’t get any free money from the gov it’s still the best work environment they’ve ever had and don’t want to go back to the horror of the office/commute combo 5 days a week.

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1 hour ago, JoeDavola said:

I think also a lot of office workers who can genuinely work from home are rather enjoying not having a commute or having to sit in the office all day.

For that demographic, even though they didn’t get any free money from the gov it’s still the best work environment they’ve ever had and don’t want to go back to the horror of the office/commute combo 5 days a week.

Early autumn was the sweet spot iirc. Working from home, favourite restaurants back open, could travel to see friends and family.

It's the little things that take the evening stresses off - being able to put on the washing in a ten minute break, take out the bins, prep healthier meals..

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