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9 minutes ago, sarahbell said:

Well they were doing so well.

They have a positive case that's slipped through their quarantine systems.

Whoops.

 

NZ is interesting, because there are really two major cities and the rest is smallish towns and rural.

Auckland, if the virus gets going there, is fucked.  You have a large number of maori, especially to the SW and SE of the CBD, who won't give a fuck about curfews, etc.  

Wellington a bit better.

Towns and rural - everyone is pretty spaced out, so I wouldn't see a problem in doing what Australia has done and regional lockdowns working.

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There seems to be an entire class of people that aren't living in the same world as me.

During this global pandemic where I'm not allowed to do something simple like have a haircut, you have a couple spend 4 months travelling around Spain and the Netherlands, come back to NZ do a short spell of quarantine and then spend a week travelling from Auckland down to the south of North Island.  

Isn't there a middle ground that would work?

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9 hours ago, sarahbell said:

Well they were doing so well.

They have a positive case that's slipped through their quarantine systems.

Whoops.

 

wow how amazing, you can't isolate a country from a virus ... it's almost as if biology doesn't work eh?

... especially if you have lots of rich people and 'influencers' (they only influence my bowels to take a shit really), who can ignore any quarantine rules 'cos they are special.

still, I suppose Jacinda can introduce those detention camps quarantine camps for people who do not wish to have a medical procedure (vaccination) against their will. 

Fuck NZ, they voted for these globalists cunts so fuck them. Let them burn economically.

 

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20 minutes ago, Caravan Monster said:

In the recent Ivor Cummins video @JFK posted in the other thread, Cummins reckons that the virus may have evolved more rapidly and become more virulent to get around and thrive in the UK style pubs closed, borders open, destroy small business and psychologically maim the children lockdowns. Aus & NZ policy looks to have created a nation of virgin hosts for the new and improved covid to rampage through should they ever open their doors to mass tourism again. 

What,  you're saying that evolutionary selection pressure and biological reality isn't a thing!

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37 minutes ago, Caravan Monster said:

In the recent Ivor Cummins video @JFK posted in the other thread, Cummins reckons that the virus may have evolved more rapidly and become more virulent to get around and thrive in the UK style pubs closed, borders open, destroy small business and psychologically maim the children lockdowns. Aus & NZ policy looks to have created a nation of virgin hosts for the new and improved covid to rampage through should they ever open their doors to mass tourism again. 

 

This video?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/nAopeUz7nujr/

 

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1 hour ago, Caravan Monster said:

In the recent Ivor Cummins video @JFK posted in the other thread, Cummins reckons that the virus may have evolved more rapidly and become more virulent to get around and thrive in the UK style pubs closed, borders open, destroy small business and psychologically maim the children lockdowns. Aus & NZ policy looks to have created a nation of virgin hosts for the new and improved covid to rampage through should they ever open their doors to mass tourism again. 

The flip side is they haven't been guinea pigs for the initial outbreak, they haven't largely had savage shutdowns of various parts of their economy, if they do resort to vaccines it will be after populations elsewhere have been trialled, if vaccines are a limited count affair that cannot be used beyond one or more they get to pick the best at the time. Plus loads of other positives thus far. 

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24 minutes ago, onlyme said:

The flip side is they haven't been guinea pigs for the initial outbreak, they haven't largely had savage shutdowns of various parts of their economy, if they do resort to vaccines it will be after populations elsewhere have been trialled, if vaccines are a limited count affair that cannot be used beyond one or more they get to pick the best at the time. Plus loads of other positives thus far. 

Broadly agree 'covid free' strategy may leave different opportunities for recovery open to them. However, Ardern's nanny stateism (which to be fair, NZ voted for) and the heavy handed lockdowns in Victoria weren't great to see and international travel is significant to both countries, culturally and economically.

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4 hours ago, onlyme said:

The flip side is they haven't been guinea pigs for the initial outbreak, they haven't largely had savage shutdowns of various parts of their economy, if they do resort to vaccines it will be after populations elsewhere have been trialled, if vaccines are a limited count affair that cannot be used beyond one or more they get to pick the best at the time. Plus loads of other positives thus far. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_New_Zealand

 

In 2005 the World Bank praised New Zealand as the most business-friendly country in the world.[31][89] The economy diversified and by 2008, tourism had become the single biggest generator of foreign exchange.[90]

 

New Zealand's diverse economy has a sizable service sector, accounting for 63% of all GDP activity as of 2013.[22] Large-scale manufacturing industries include aluminium production, food processing, metal fabrication, wood and paper products. Mining, manufacturing, electricity, gas, water, and waste services accounted for 16.5% of GDP as of 2013.[22] The primary sector continues to dominate New Zealand's exports, despite accounting for only 6.5% of GDP as of 2013.[22] The information technology sector is growing rapidly.[23]

 

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5 hours ago, Caravan Monster said:

Broadly agree 'covid free' strategy may leave different opportunities for recovery open to them. However, Ardern's nanny stateism (which to be fair, NZ voted for) and the heavy handed lockdowns in Victoria weren't great to see and international travel is significant to both countries, culturally and economically.

Sure,  there's no binary all good scenario. Bottom line though if an island and you largely stop international travel you stop disease spread something obvious from the first minute of the pandemic and something that was actively rebutted by China, the WHO and many governments.

The virus was spread globally on purpose, only a few strong willed governments said no thanks.

 

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When I went to NZ a few years back it did really seem like they were 20 years behind the UK in many social & economic ways. Almost a 90s feel that everything was relaxed and kids had a few chances to make mistakes band have fun but still end up good with a family/house.

 

I guess they are entering the Blair stage now, with the rich elite sucking up wealth and control over citizens, whilst ordinary people are thrown bones like increasing credit and house prices that are really an illusory wealth.

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15 minutes ago, JohnnyB said:

When I went to NZ a few years back it did really seem like they were 20 years behind the UK in many social & economic ways. Almost a 90s feel that everything was relaxed and kids had a few chances to make mistakes band have fun but still end up good with a family/house.

 

I guess they are entering the Blair stage now, with the rich elite sucking up wealth and control over citizens, whilst ordinary people are thrown bones like increasing credit and house prices that are really an illusory wealth.

That ended years ago. 

Auckland has one of the worst bubbles on the planet. 

And that's where half of NZ lives. 

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