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The Privatisation of NHS dentistry, does anyone know its happening, does anyone care?


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Where I work, for a while now, but in the last three years the company has been working heavily in the dental sector.

I have worked for nationals,  groups and small practices so this is not one company.

Whilst working I often overhear reception dealing with customer enquiries and one line is always repeated, "we're not taking on new NHS patients but we do have private appointments available"

I have never heard a single one say they are accepting new NHS patients.

 

Is this sector regulated and by whom?

 

It seems like an absolute scam.

 

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I had my impacted wisdom teeth out in hospital at twenty one and haven't been to a dentist since. I worked with one guy once in his early thirties who went for a checkup and "needed various bits

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2 minutes ago, GBDamo said:

Where I work, for a while now, but in the last three years the company has been working heavily in the dental sector.

I have worked for nationals,  groups and small practices so this is not one company.

Whilst working I often overhear reception dealing with customer enquiries and one line is always repeated, "we're not taking on new NHS patients but we do have private appointments available"

I have never heard a single one say they are accepting new NHS patients.

 

Is this sector regulated and by whom?

 

It seems like an absolute scam.

 

I moved back to monkey island (uk) in 2017. Have not been able to get us into an NHS dentist...a couple of places said they would take the kids but not me or the wife. I couldn’t send them to nhs and us have private, ergo we all go private. The ones that would have us as NHS all had African or Eastern European staff. Just an observation. One of the places was 3rd world...the waiting corridor had holes in the plaster board (looked like been punched?) and the chairs were all random - pc desk chair, old school chair and a few of them soft chairs you always saw in teachers staff rooms . 

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A few years back, I moved house and found, in the yellow pages, a dentist who said that they accepted new NHS patients.  On applying, they bitched and moanded and said it takes forever to get paid by the NHS so they would rather I went private.  I insisted on being NHS, and I'm sure the cost to me for a checkup was more than it would have been if I went private.  This has been going on for years.

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NHS dentistry has been provided by dentists in private practice since whenever but most have been declining this work for years now.

A good thing because those bastards ruined countless people's teeth with unnecessary fillings to pay for their lifestyle.

My NHS dentist is a dentist directly employed by the NHS on a salary so no such perverse incentives you would hope.

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my eldest was told a few years ago by his NHS dentist that he would need braces when he was a bit older.

Now he is a bit older.

He has been referred to a specialist to have braces fitted. Only there is a 6 to 24 month waiting list, but invited to go privately. Seems to me that he should have been put on the list 2 years ago.

Does anyone know how much it will cost me to go private? I'll have to pay it, can't wait 2 fucking years. Seems like a scam, private consultant restricting appointments to pressure patients to go private, and getting free referrals from NHS.

 

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3 minutes ago, SpectrumFX said:

I didn't go to the dentist for years, then signed up to two shit NHS dentists in a row. There's only so many filings you can take with botched anaesthetic, so now I pay through the nose for a competent private dentist.

The whole thing is a shit show.

I've not been for 20+ years. Doctors, dentists and hospitals should be avoided like the plaque..

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4 minutes ago, snaga said:

my eldest was told a few years ago by his NHS dentist that he would need braces when he was a bit older.

Now he is a bit older.

He has been referred to a specialist to have braces fitted. Only there is a 6 to 24 month waiting list, but invited to go privately. Seems to me that he should have been put on the list 2 years ago.

Does anyone know how much it will cost me to go private? I'll have to pay it, can't wait 2 fucking years. Seems like a scam, private consultant restricting appointments to pressure patients to go private, and getting free referrals from NHS.

 

Cost me just over £5k for my lad 10 years ago.

Worth every penny though.

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5 minutes ago, snaga said:

my eldest was told a few years ago by his NHS dentist that he would need braces when he was a bit older.

Now he is a bit older.

He has been referred to a specialist to have braces fitted. Only there is a 6 to 24 month waiting list, but invited to go privately. Seems to me that he should have been put on the list 2 years ago.

Does anyone know how much it will cost me to go private? I'll have to pay it, can't wait 2 fucking years. Seems like a scam, private consultant restricting appointments to pressure patients to go private, and getting free referrals from NHS.

 

There's those things they advertise on telly. They're £3.5k.

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2 minutes ago, Panther said:

If ever there was a case for showering compo far and wide, historical NHS dentistry is it.

Amen to that. Fucking scam dentist removed 4 healthy molars from me when I was 14. Cunt. Took me years to work out what he'd done. 

I've had dentistry through BUPA for a few years. I have no idea if it's actually worth it, but I like my dentist. 

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37 minutes ago, snaga said:

my eldest was told a few years ago by his NHS dentist that he would need braces when he was a bit older.

Now he is a bit older.

He has been referred to a specialist to have braces fitted. Only there is a 6 to 24 month waiting list, but invited to go privately. Seems to me that he should have been put on the list 2 years ago.

Does anyone know how much it will cost me to go private? I'll have to pay it, can't wait 2 fucking years. Seems like a scam, private consultant restricting appointments to pressure patients to go private, and getting free referrals from NHS.

 

One of my kids had dodgy teeth and needed a brace, dentists seemed unkeen for the extra work and referred us to a local NHS service that looked at her teeth and said that she wasn't deformed enough to qualify for free braces - I was trying to pay for them at that point, but not available.  Change of dentist and two kids are now just deformed enough to get free braces, not quite sure how.  We had a 6 month waiting list in local town or could go within 2 weeks at next town along.  Hadn't realised quite how many visits they require, particularly as they break quite easily at first until kids get used to them (first breakage was within an hour of fitting).

Might be worth seeing if there is better availability if you cast the net wider.

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5 minutes ago, Inigo said:

One of my kids had dodgy teeth and needed a brace, dentists seemed unkeen for the extra work and referred us to a local NHS service that looked at her teeth and said that she wasn't deformed enough to qualify for free braces - I was trying to pay for them at that point, but not available. 

I had the same thing. Friend who had a kid with teeth that I didn't think were as bad got them for free.

Pissed me off a bit as he was a multi millionaire. I guess that is how they get to be that way.

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I had my impacted wisdom teeth out in hospital at twenty one and haven't been to a dentist since.

I worked with one guy once in his early thirties who went for a checkup and "needed various bits of work doing".

He was in and out of the dentist until I left the next year. Every other week he was in the office with a swollen gob or mumbling as he was getting over that morning's anaesthetic. Root canal this, that, the other.

I have a friend who was told he couldn't register with an NHS practice until he had a certain amount of work done to get everything "up to standard".

I have heard nothing but other horror stories that sound like something from the thirld world.

Wouldn't trust the fuckers as far as I could throw them.

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8 minutes ago, Inigo said:

One of my kids had dodgy teeth and needed a brace, dentists seemed unkeen for the extra work and referred us to a local NHS service that looked at her teeth and said that she wasn't deformed enough to qualify for free braces - I was trying to pay for them at that point, but not available.  Change of dentist and two kids are now just deformed enough to get free braces, not quite sure how.  We had a 6 month waiting list in local town or could go within 2 weeks at next town along.  Hadn't realised quite how many visits they require, particularly as they break quite easily at first until kids get used to them (first breakage was within an hour of fitting).

Might be worth seeing if there is better availability if you cast the net wider.

where do I start to look? We've just had this single letter from the consultants. I wouldn't trust the Dentist as they are part of a franchise and always push their own private services.

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