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the gardener

My dog has been in pain over the last day or two. Mostly shortly after getting up. Gives a sharp yelp. 

Not related to paws - no limping. Not licking any particular area. Not in pain whilst lying down upright - ie. Not lying fully on the side with legs stretched out. 

I was stroking him and as he was enjoying it he moved from his sitting position on his tummy to roll back onto his side to lift his legs to let me tickle his tummy - yelp! Pain. 

I've felt along both his sides - no lumps or tender areas. 

Otherwise he looks well, came out for a walk this morning, ran after his current female dog friend and tried to mount her. Desperately wanted to play ball and ended up getting a stick and barking at me to throw it. Jumped up a bank about 18 inches in height with no issues.

Doesn't look sick, eating well, pooing and weeing fine. 

I'm diagnosing something to do with hip or back - pulled ligament/muscle, maybe trapped nerve. 

I've got him some doggy tablets (see picture) 

My instinct is to use these, monitor for a the next few days, if he worsens then visit the vet. 

Thoughts/experiences anyone. 

 

 

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the gardener

Just to add, I ripped my groin muscle a few years back and self-treated with rest and herbs so I'm not neglecting him but just try to avoid vets who quite frankly mostly seem to want to extort money from you to support their lavish lifestyles. 

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the gardener

Sorry - move to off topic please - accidently put this in Covid subforum. 

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the gardener
Just now, Stuey said:

How about some Vitamin D? @Mrs XYY

While waiting for amazon man to deliver today I gave the poor dog some of my curcumin tablets which also had 1000IU of vitamin d3. 

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the gardener

I have observed that he is not doing his usual downwards dog and upwards dog stretches. I expect that hurts so he is wary of doing it. 

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Carl Fimble

Hopefully he's just pulled a muscle or something that'll fix itself in a few days.

How old is he, and what sort of dog?

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MrXxxx

Interesting, whilst reading your first post I thought "Maybe a ligament issue, I wonder if you can treat dogs with Glucosamine/Chondroitin?"...I then saw your picture and read the ingredients. As a human 'dog' of the species I can vouch for this combination, as it helped me treat a running injury.

The other thing I would suggest is try warm/cold treatment of the limbs/back as you would treat inflammation issues on humans; the Turmeric/Curcumin is a natural anti-inflammatory as well, so this might help.

Finally, as my Aunts dog was getting older he got arthritis and the vet suggested Cod liver oil tablets. She tried one a day in his food and it seemed to do the trick...although see this warning (https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/urgent-warning-dog-owners-over-2244150)

 

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9 minutes ago, MrXxxx said:

Interesting, whilst reading your first post I thought "Maybe a ligament issue, I wonder if you can treat dogs with Glucosamine/Chondroitin?"...I then saw your picture and read the ingredients. As a human 'dog' of the species I can vouch for this combination, as it helped me treat a running injury.

The other thing I would suggest is try warm/cold treatment of the limbs/back as you would treat inflammation issues on humans; the Turmeric/Curcumin is a natural anti-inflammatory as well, so this might help.

Finally, as my Aunts dog was getting older he got arthritis and the vet suggested Cod liver oil tablets. She tried one a day in his food and it seemed to do the trick...although see this warning (https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/urgent-warning-dog-owners-over-2244150)

 

Cheers. 

I did worry about giving him my curcumin tablets whilst waiting for the doggy chews to come. I did check as to the vitamin d and saw that too much is not good. 1000IU twice seemed to be fine so I went ahead. 

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Just now, the gardener said:

Cheers. 

I did worry about giving him my curcumin tablets whilst waiting for the doggy chews to come. I did check as to the vitamin d and saw that too much is not good. 1000IU twice seemed to be fine so I went ahead. 

He's currently lying down half on his right side against the patio door. No yelps of pain. I'm leaving him alone as I don't want to disturb him, poor thing. 

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Libspero

Dogs have a pretty high pain threshold so if he’s yelping it’s probably quite bad.

Dogs usually tend to limp or carry a paw if they have a thorn or leg injury.

I think your instinct to wait a couple days before taking him to a vet is the right one.   A few doggy treats and rest in the mean time is probably what I’d go with.

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8 hours ago, the gardener said:

He's 5 1/2 and a Toller. 

 

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He's a fine looking hound :)

Generally I usually wait and observe for 36-48 hours before a vet trip for non emergency issues regarding my dogs (and cat!).  However, I only use four specific vets from a selection of 15 at my excellent in general vets practice - they were targeted using a criteria combination of recommendation, experience (older vets and experience gauged over 11 years of dealing with the practice), and specialisation (small animal).  I completely advocate specific vet selection similar to having preferred doctors at a local doctors surgery.  Two out of four vets I use have been seeing my dogs (9 and 12 years old) since they were pups.

I always have Metacam(non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug) in stock for musculoskeletal issues.  I use it sparingly but it does provide pain relief and slows the animal (dog and cat) down (allowing time to heal) as it also makes them stoned.

I also have positive experience of using an equine/canine chiropractor for musculoskeletal issues.  I tend to favour a multi disciplined practitioner in order to provide a more rounded treatment path.  Generally this has come into play as the dogs have hit the 8/9 year mark, both my dogs have arthritis (common in larger dogs) so I also use the treatment to keeps tabs on the progression of this. 

Glucosamine and Chondroitin are effective for joint stiffness and connective tissue support, once again this is relevant to older dogs. Both my vet and chiropractor recommended these two and I use them via a product called YuMove.

Anyway, I hope the above helps - some is relevant for his current age and some for later down the line.  Do let us know how he gets on, never underestimate the speed of how a small mammal can heal.

 

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Frank Hovis

The general rule for pets and people, obvious injuries aside, is rest and warmth for a couple of days to allow them to heal naturally.

Turn the heating on.

If there is no improvement or it gets worse then to the vet / doctor.

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the gardener

Thanks everyone. Metcam - my friend round the corner has some and offered it. I'll take him up on the offer if no further improvement. 

This morning my furry friend performed a downwards dog stretch followed by an upwards dog. Not as vigorously and enjoyably as he usually does but it's definitely an improvement. Only a much less pronounced whimper so far this morning, quite like the noises I make when moving about. 😁

Cross fingers things are healing. 

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1 hour ago, Tingles said:

He's a fine looking hound :)

 

 

Thank you. 😁

You would not believe how many people stop me to tell me how beautiful my dog is. Honestly, virtually every single walk I have people asking about him, what breed he is, wanting to stroke him.

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He's much better this evening. No yelps since this morning. Had a bit of pain when he forgot his injury and ran too vigorously on his walk this morning. That didn't stop him jumping down from a 2ft 6" wall then turning around and leaping back up 😁. He's on the mend. 

 

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On 04/03/2021 at 09:33, the gardener said:

Thank you. 😁

You would not believe how many people stop me to tell me how beautiful my dog is. Honestly, virtually every single walk I have people asking about him, what breed he is, wanting to stroke him.

Are you dark haired with a move warm smile and twinkly eyes?

 

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Top tip for dogs - large spoonful of cod liver oil mixed in every day with their food.

Gives them shiny sleek coats and seems to help a lot with any arthritic type ailments (this was the reason we gave it to the dog initially, it was yelping like the dog in the OP and seemed to have a hip problem) 

I was slightly disgusted to see that it worked a lot better as a dietary supplement for the dog than it did for any of the humans in the family, but I guess we ate more fish than him. 

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the gardener

The patient is back to 100%. The day after my last post he was completely yelp-free and tearing about like a maniac, chasing after his ball. Dogs have amazing powers of recovery. 

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17 minutes ago, the gardener said:

The patient is back to 100%. The day after my last post he was completely yelp-free and tearing about like a maniac, chasing after his ball. Dogs have amazing powers of recovery. 

chasing the ball leads to a lot of hip/joint problems so my dog trainer said 

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One percent
21 minutes ago, the gardener said:

The patient is back to 100%. The day after my last post he was completely yelp-free and tearing about like a maniac, chasing after his ball. Dogs have amazing powers of recovery. 

He only has one ball?  o.O

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7 minutes ago, One percent said:

He only has one ball?  o.O

The lads cat is looseing 2 next week

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