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Labours new EU policy

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The FT and like minded as wetting their knickers in excitement over keir Stammers stated EU policy:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41064314

 

'Oh sensible person', 'Labour showing the way' etc etc.

However, what happens when the deomcratically elected people's board come back from shagging 3rd world women holiday summer school on socialist  economic development?

Ive not seen anything from Corbn , McDonnel or Abbot buying into this. Maybe they are having problems getting their smart phones to work - capitalist techofilth! Any tech created by socialist campaniles would accommodate inability to enter a number and be much superior.

I give it til Thurs before the leadship team contradict Keir.

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1 hour ago, One percent said:

And yet, the one mp that actually spoke out on the mass grooming and sexual exploitation of children was made to resign her shadow cabinet post. This really has confirmed for me that the Labour Party (the establishment in general) could not give a toss about ordinary people. 

They have a completely different agenda, one that is firmly at odds with the good of the nation. What this actually is, God only knows. 

 

They're no different from the establishment and other elitists which form the LibLabCon1984.  They've even gone past the point of asking "Are we the baddies".

I expect they all think they're all going to be sitting in golden palaces while the rest of us flunkey up to them and scurry about trying to earn a crust of bread.  A bit like the Indian golden palace era.

I think they'll have another think coming if the Islamic extremists have their way.

 

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5 minutes ago, twocents said:

They're no different from the establishment and other elitists which form the LibLabCon1984.  They've even gone past the point of asking "Are we the bad guys".

I expect they all think they're all going to be sitting in golden palaces while the rest of us flunkey up to them and scurry about trying to earn a crust of bread.  A bit like the Indian golden palace era.

I think they'll have another think coming if the Islamic extremists have their way.

 

News from the inside of parliament is that they all behave like children in a playground - arguing, falling out, bullying each other.  Does not bode well when what you need is adults at the helm.

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3 hours ago, spygirl said:

The FT and like minded as wetting their knickers in excitement over keir Stammers stated EU policy:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41064314

 

'Oh sensible person', 'Labour showing the way' etc etc.

However, what happens when the deomcratically elected people's board come back from shagging 3rd world women holiday summer school on socialist  economic development?

Ive not seen anything from Corbn , McDonnel or Abbot buying into this. Maybe they are having problems getting their smart phones to work - capitalist techofilth! Any tech created by socialist campaniles would accommodate inability to enter a number and be much superior.

I give it til Thurs before the leadship team contradict Keir.

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Labour would keep the UK in the EU single market and customs union for a transitional period after leaving the EU, the party has said

 

The UK should already be out of the eu.  That's what the Prime Minister said would happen before the eu referendum.

They then decided that wasn't practical but the transition period should have started then and at the very latest when Article 50 was triggered - any transition period should end on 29 March 2019 at the latest.  They really are the most abject.

Only a political system as abject as LibLabCon1984 would regard about 10 million extra people already from overseas since the millennium to be insufficient.

 

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8 hours ago, twocents said:

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The UK should already be out of the eu.  That's what the Prime Minister said would happen before the eu referendum.

They then decided that wasn't practical but the transition period should have started then and at the very latest when Article 50 was triggered - any transition period should end on 29 March 2019 at the latest.  They really are the most abject.

Only a political system as abject as LibLabCon1984 would regard about 10 million extra people already from overseas since the millennium to be insufficient.

 

I was under the impression that, once article 50 was triggered, it was irreversible,   and membership would have to be reapplied for?

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7 minutes ago, Bkkandrew said:

I was under the impression that, once article 50 was triggered, it was irreversible,   and membership would have to be reapplied for?

It can be extended....

I was under the impression that the labour party was a bunch of self serving treacherous cunts? At least somethings never change. Phew!

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7 minutes ago, Bkkandrew said:

I was under the impression that, once article 50 was triggered, it was irreversible,   and membership would have to be reapplied for?

No, it can be withdrawn/cancelled.

I love the way that Labour have a "policy". Which they are in absolutely no position to enact without the agreement of the EU. So it's not a "policy" at all.

Indeed this whole thing shows just how amateur and opportunistic our politicians are.

As, perhaps, was ever thus.

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During last years general election I asked my labour candidate what the parties policy was on brexit. Specifically asked what it was regarding supporting EU jobs or cutting migration. She didn't have a clue. Labour was leaving the EU. Was it staying in the single market. Again no idea. I suspect she had an idea but try to win a leave voter. This made me disregard voting labour. I suspect a lot of leavers voted labour based on what they thought their policy was (but was never really). So not a surprise at all. More smoke and mirrors and betrayal of the referendum. Don't sound so surprised, I wasn't.

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I've just had confirmation from my in-laws that my daughter's dual nationality has been confirmed so she can have British and EU passports until she is 18. My wife can join her over in Visegrad land and I'll probably have to become a soldier of fortune, like libspero. 

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16 minutes ago, Dipsy said:

Aren't they just going to lose their northern voters? The north London lefties will love it but they aren't marginal seats.

If they attempt to renege on Brexit they'll get slaughtered up here. This part of the country is already quite pissed off with being ignored. Throwing their democratic choice back into people's faces won't go down well.

To be honest, most of the Labour people up here that I've spoken to have no plans to vote for Corbyn. They think he's an idiot and an ineffectual one at that.

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I think the demise and chaos within UKIP, who took a lot of Northern votes from Labour, has given them the front to turn their back on the voters they were lying trying to win back. Most Labour MPs and candidates are traitorous scum; majority of all MPs (LibLabCon) pro-EU, pro-Remain, pro-Gravy Train. As contemptuous of the voter as they have ever been. Hard to believe after all this time and a referendum we are still having this argument, instead of coming together, getting on with it and looking to a different more exciting future.

Labour by rights should be anti-EU and immigration (to protect the working man), shows how far they have moved, and whose votes they chase.

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59 minutes ago, Alonso Quijano said:

I think the demise and chaos within UKIP, who took a lot of Northern votes from Labour, has given them the front to turn their back on the voters they were lying trying to win back. Most Labour MPs and candidates are traitorous scum; majority of all MPs (LibLabCon) pro-EU, pro-Remain, pro-Gravy Train. As contemptuous of the voter as they have ever been. Hard to believe after all this time and a referendum we are still having this argument, instead of coming together, getting on with it and looking to a different more exciting future.

Labour by rights should be anti-EU and immigration (to protect the working man), shows how far they have moved, and whose votes they chase.

That's what you can do with politics governed by "anyone but the blue rosette". 

What are your policies? 

To not wear a blue rosette. 

Ooh, I'll vote for you!

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1 hour ago, Alonso Quijano said:

I think the demise and chaos within UKIP, who took a lot of Northern votes from Labour, has given them the front to turn their back on the voters they were lying trying to win back. Most Labour MPs and candidates are traitorous scum; majority of all MPs (LibLabCon) pro-EU, pro-Remain, pro-Gravy Train. As contemptuous of the voter as they have ever been. Hard to believe after all this time and a referendum we are still having this argument, instead of coming together, getting on with it and looking to a different more exciting future.

Labour by rights should be anti-EU and immigration (to protect the working man), shows how far they have moved, and whose votes they chase.

This is so true, and they get away with it to some extent as some people vote for them whatever as some kind of reflex (including people on here) They gamble on their core voters being either blindly loyal or thick. 

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2 hours ago, Alonso Quijano said:

I think the demise and chaos within UKIP, who took a lot of Northern votes from Labour, has given them the front to turn their back on the voters they were lying trying to win back. Most Labour MPs and candidates are traitorous scum; majority of all MPs (LibLabCon) pro-EU, pro-Remain, pro-Gravy Train. As contemptuous of the voter as they have ever been. Hard to believe after all this time and a referendum we are still having this argument, instead of coming together, getting on with it and looking to a different more exciting future.

Labour by rights should be anti-EU and immigration (to protect the working man), shows how far they have moved, and whose votes they chase.

It would help if theyd implemented tax credits so they denied any benefits to non UK nationals.

 

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On 8/30/2017 at 00:15, Bkkandrew said:

I was under the impression that, once article 50 was triggered, it was irreversible,   and membership would have to be reapplied for?

I think at one point Article 50 was considered to be completely irreversible and after triggering it (March 2017) membership would have to be reapplied for but when it became clear that Article 50 was actually going to be triggered they decided it could be reversible until the official leave date in March 2019 (a leave date that can be extended under some circumstances - I think that extending that date by agreement has always been possible).  

I believe the transition period they are talking about is part of the negotiations.  So the UK can still "leave" the eu in March 2019 but still have an extended transition period beyond that for some things such as the single market and free movement.

That's my understanding of the situation - and how they're generally reneging on the referendum so far but but there could be other stuff going on as well plus stuff not broadcast so far.  

No doubt we will learn of other ways they intend to renege on the referendum in due course - it wouldn't surprise if the transition period after officially leaving on March 2019 will allow some provision for membership without application but I haven't heard that one aired by them so far.

 Actually it wouldn't surprise if they officially redefined the word leave to mean stay in the official documents.

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It is becoming clear that the will of 17m people is simply not enough to get a change of tack.

Therefore, I suggest that any of these poxy protesters are informed from now on that at least 17m signatures, attendees or whatever are required before you are even given airtime for whatever cause they are bleating on about.

1m in Trafalgar square protesting about austerity - sod off. Come back when you have another 20m.

Also, I guess no Government with less than 17m votes is legitimate henceforth.

 

 

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23 hours ago, swissy_fit said:

This is so true, and they get away with it to some extent as some people vote for them whatever as some kind of reflex (including people on here) They gamble on their core voters being either blindly loyal or thick. 

...blindly loyal or thick - as well as misinformed and lied to including misinformed and lied to by the media, oh and believing the manifestos which get reneged on immediately after getting elected.

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