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Dawn Bilbrough: Food plea nurse considers quitting after Covid

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56472115

A critical care nurse who tearfully urged the public to stop panic buying last year has said she is considering leaving her profession.

Dawn Bilbrough said the past year had been "relentless, incredibly traumatic and emotionally and physically exhausting".

And do what for money? Shes 52. Too old for TCs kids. Way too young to retire - shes ~15 years before she draws her pension.

Ms Bilbrough told the BBC the "burden" of seeing patients die had been "hard".

The 52-year-old, from York, told BBC Radio 4's The World This Weekend that nothing in her 20-year nursing career could have prepared her for the last 12 months.

How many excess deaths has York seen?

She makes it sound like they are piling bodies up in the wards. They are not.

Whats happening is that OAPS who would have died in care homes are coming into hospital, infecting other people, then dying.

Speaking as the anniversary of her video approached, she said: "There have been times when I've come home and had a good cry, because we have witnessed so much… we're at the patient's bedside 12 hours a day and they haven't had that usual psychological support from their families.

No youre not.

"So we've been there… and got to know them as people, their likes and dislikes, their dreams; and then they've become really unwell and been placed on ventilators and quite often they haven't got through that

"And that's been difficult because personally I've felt a bond to my patients, and to witness them not progress as we would wish, that's been really hard."

Total. BS. Anyone coming into hospital is on an ICU. They dont speak and do much.

Even in normal times, anyone in hospital has very little interaction with nurses.

She has now described seeing coronavirus patients die as a "burden" she has to bear. In normal times, she might lose a patient in intensive care once every two weeks, but during the pandemic several were dying every day.

https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/19124633.no-new-covid-deaths-york-hospital/

The total number of deaths at units run by York Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust since the pandemic began remains at 572.

Thats across several hospitals, over 12 months.

https://www.yorkhospitals.nhs.uk/our-hospitals/

Thats about 2 a day, over 12 months, across 8 hospital.

Even putting all the deaths in Scabby n York, thats ~1 day each

Two nurse shifts, for 3 days a week.

I doubt any covid patients died on her shif. compared to other deaths.

Ms Bilbrough warned the pandemic was not over and that it was "shocking" that those on ventilators now are often in their 50s.

How many paitients have been in our ward in their 50s or under?

Give me a number.

Amid calls for a better pay rise for nurses, Ms Bilbrough said the public has "huge respect for the profession, and I do hope it will continue when people go back to their normal lives… I hope they remember the sacrifices and the burdens that people within the profession have made over the past year and will continue to make for a little while longer".

Almost a tenth of York Hospital staff absent during coronavirus crisis

https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/18460772.almost-tenth-york-hospital-staff-absent-coronavirus-crisis/

10% not turning up is average for York.

 

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Is she too old for her NHS pension? They only need so many years in a d then they can have that and work agency.

It's a major factor in staff costs. 

Just cos the plebs don't get their state pension at that age don't assume NHS are the same.

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Its Nurse day!

Coronavirus: Dying nurse told sister 'follow in my footsteps'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-56377782

Nurse Areema Nasreen was one of the youngest NHS workers to die from coronavirus at the start of the pandemic. Almost a year on from her death, her sister reveals how Areema's last words changed the course of her life.

The last time Kazeema Afzal saw her sister alive, she was getting ready to go on to a ventilator at the hospital where both had worked since they were teenagers.

"She waved and said I love you," Kazeema recalled of the moment the 36-year-old nurse disappeared behind the double doors.

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The two were inseparable growing up in Walsall, West Midlands, together with their younger sister Ash. Areema was only three years older than Kazeema, but "she was like a mum to us," she said. "Mum knew she could go to another country and Areema would be there to look after us all."

Any country in particular???

Their lives mirrored each others'. When Areema and Kazeema were still teenagers, they travelled to Pakistan where their families intended them to marry.

They were wed on the same day to two brothers and lived together for six months. "We grew up quickly," Kazeema said. "We had children very soon after." The sisters had three children each and even had the same due date for their youngest child.

Both were keen to work. When Areema started as a housekeeper in their home town's Manor Hospital in 2003 aged 19, her younger sister soon followed suit.

Well, what are the chances of that!

But it was always the eldest sister's dream to be a nurse. With her husband Fasil Tahseen's support, she became the first member of her family to attend university. In 2019, she became a staff nurse at the hospital that was her "second home".

Uni? Trying finishing school.

"She got such a buzz out of looking after people," her sister said. "She was always sending money home [to Pakistan]. "If someone needed water, she'd buy them a pump. She paid for the family of a severely ill child to go on a pilgrimage and she went with them."

 

 

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spygirl
9 minutes ago, sarahbell said:

Is she too old for her NHS pension? They only need so many years in a d then they can have that and work agency.

It's a major factor in staff costs. 

Just cos the plebs don't get their state pension at that age don't assume NHS are the same.

She started at 32, so only 20 years assuming shes not had time off for kids.

A girl up the road did he 'Ive worked as a Nurse for 15 years ....'

Shes ~36.

However, shes had 4 kids, taking 2 years off for each.

Then she had an 'issue' she did not expand on, taking another year off, as well her usual 20-30 days off sick a year.

Like all public sector jobs that have a lot of wimmin, nursing would be a lot better having more men doing the job. They turn up for work, rain or shine. Wimmin nurses dont.

 

 

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It must be awesome being treated like a hero for just doing your job....

I might take the bins out next week. That's definitely worth an article in the local paper about me being such a Great Guy.

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She needs someone to give her a good fucking and budgeting advice .what sort of job does she think she can walk into 

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I'm guessing a 12 hour shift in the unionised NHS looks a lot different to one of my 12 hour shifts, from back when I was allowed to work. Defined breaks, observed lunch break etc.  

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3 minutes ago, Great Guy said:

It must be awesome being treated like a hero for just doing your job....

I might take the bins out next week. That's definitely worth an article in the local paper about me being such a Great Guy.

Congratulations! 

I clapped for you this morning. Stood out on my doorstep and flailed my arms about rhythmically. Then I went in and cried for you. 

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44 minutes ago, stokiescum said:

She needs someone to give her a good fucking and budgeting advice .what sort of job does she think she can walk into 

I've been on her FB.

Shes either childless or had kids young and is no estranged from them.

 

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43 minutes ago, eight said:

I'm guessing a 12 hour shift in the unionised NHS looks a lot different to one of my 12 hour shifts, from back when I was allowed to work. Defined breaks, observed lunch break etc.  

You ll work for the full 12h. 

Nurses really dont.

And they only do 3 x 12h shifts a week.

Assuming they bother to come in.

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1 hour ago, spygirl said:

You ll work for the full 12h. 

Nurses really dont.

And they only do 3 x 12h shifts a week.

Assuming they bother to come in.

Not all nurses! 

I've got a very good friend, very dear to me who has been a very dedicated nurse for a long time. Cancer specialist too, so dealing with people who are terminal. 

She was telling me at Christmas about a young girl on her team, massively overweight, lazy bitch, got pregnant then became even lazier. Anyhoo, before she went on maternity she says to my mate 'will you miss me when I'm on maternity', to which she replied 'miss you? You're never fucking here!' xD

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18 minutes ago, Roger_Mellie said:

Not all nurses! 

I've got a very good friend, very dear to me who has been a very dedicated nurse for a long time. Cancer specialist too, so dealing with people who are terminal. 

She was telling me at Christmas about a young girl on her team, massively overweight, lazy bitch, got pregnant then became even lazier. Anyhoo, before she went on maternity she says to my mate 'will you miss me when I'm on maternity', to which she replied 'miss you? You're never fucking here!' xD

The deal is roughly ~3 x 12h shifts a wekk.

~33 days AL after ~10 years.

iirc Average nurses sickness rate at this woman trust is ~30 days .

Thats ~10 weeks sick a year

Plus another 10 weeks AL

Remember - they only do ~3 12 h shifts a week.

And the 30 days sick is average. The distribution is skewed to people who barey turn up.

Its possible for a couple of nurses who work on the same ward to never see the other. for over a year.

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7 minutes ago, spygirl said:

The deal is roughly ~3 x 12h shifts a wekk.

~33 days AL after ~10 years.

iirc Average nurses sickness rate at this woman trust is ~30 days .

Thats ~10 weeks sick a year

Plus another 10 weeks AL

Remember - they only do ~3 12 h shifts a week.

And the 30 days sick is average. The distribution is skewed to people who barey turn up.

Its possible for a couple of nurses who work on the same ward to never see the other. for over a year.

Don’t forget the 10 days a month bank work at triple time 👍

The stat I would like to know is how many “poor” nurses are higher rate tax payers ? 

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We reduce an early retirement pension, as it is being paid early and will be in payment for longer.

The reduction depends on how many years before normal pension age it is being claimed.

1995 Section

If you joined the 1995 Section before 6 April 2006 you can choose to take early retirement from age 50. 

If you joined the 1995 Section on or after 6 April 2006, your minimum pension age is 55 unless you have a protected minimum pension age. If you returned to the scheme after this date, this might also apply to you.

2008 Section and 2015 Scheme

The minimum pension age is 55.

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5 hours ago, spygirl said:

And do what for money? Shes 52. Too old for TCs kids. Way too young to retire - shes ~15 years before she draws her pension.

 

 

You awful cynic. There are loads of options for women like her. Child care, making sequins and selling them on Etsy, dog walking. Currently it seems to be: re-train as a physiotherapist (NHS obv) is very popular at the moment.

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4 hours ago, Shamone said:

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She probably wouldn't make the hospital dance challenge finals, maybe regional but international no chance.

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I'm sure it's genuine.  And she probably does build a rapport with patients (not all are out of it in ICU and obviously there is more one on one interaction).  

Same way the nurse twins or sisters mentioned above, I'm sure true too but just not necessarily representative of things on the whole.  Like someone mentioned yesterday, they have started dredging up old disaster stories about covid deaths in the media too.

I'm sure the nurse is very sensitive etc as well.  Not sure what the point of my post, just maybe it's the media too blame not some teary nurse.

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4 hours ago, stokiescum said:

She needs someone to give her a good fucking and budgeting advice .what sort of job does she think she can walk into 

Labour Party Activist, I'm sure she could make a living being a media nursing expert. She'd be a regular on the One Show.

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They would roll the red carpet out for her if she came to Wales. The first prick gave all NHS and social care workers another bonus this week. The first one last year was £500 but he was annoyed the evil Tories made them pay tax and NIC on it. This time he's made it £735 so £500 after stoppage for a basic rate tax payer.

Local elections soon!

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6 hours ago, spygirl said:

Dawn Bilbrough: Food plea nurse considers quitting after Covid

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56472115

A critical care nurse who tearfully urged the public to stop panic buying last year has said she is considering leaving her profession.

Dawn Bilbrough said the past year had been "relentless, incredibly traumatic and emotionally and physically exhausting".

And do what for money? Shes 52. Too old for TCs kids. Way too young to retire - shes ~15 years before she draws her pension.

Ms Bilbrough told the BBC the "burden" of seeing patients die had been "hard".

The 52-year-old, from York, told BBC Radio 4's The World This Weekend that nothing in her 20-year nursing career could have prepared her for the last 12 months.

How many excess deaths has York seen?

She makes it sound like they are piling bodies up in the wards. They are not.

Whats happening is that OAPS who would have died in care homes are coming into hospital, infecting other people, then dying.

Speaking as the anniversary of her video approached, she said: "There have been times when I've come home and had a good cry, because we have witnessed so much… we're at the patient's bedside 12 hours a day and they haven't had that usual psychological support from their families.

No youre not.

"So we've been there… and got to know them as people, their likes and dislikes, their dreams; and then they've become really unwell and been placed on ventilators and quite often they haven't got through that

"And that's been difficult because personally I've felt a bond to my patients, and to witness them not progress as we would wish, that's been really hard."

Total. BS. Anyone coming into hospital is on an ICU. They dont speak and do much.

Even in normal times, anyone in hospital has very little interaction with nurses.

She has now described seeing coronavirus patients die as a "burden" she has to bear. In normal times, she might lose a patient in intensive care once every two weeks, but during the pandemic several were dying every day.

https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/19124633.no-new-covid-deaths-york-hospital/

The total number of deaths at units run by York Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust since the pandemic began remains at 572.

Thats across several hospitals, over 12 months.

https://www.yorkhospitals.nhs.uk/our-hospitals/

Thats about 2 a day, over 12 months, across 8 hospital.

Even putting all the deaths in Scabby n York, thats ~1 day each

Two nurse shifts, for 3 days a week.

I doubt any covid patients died on her shif. compared to other deaths.

Ms Bilbrough warned the pandemic was not over and that it was "shocking" that those on ventilators now are often in their 50s.

How many paitients have been in our ward in their 50s or under?

Give me a number.

Amid calls for a better pay rise for nurses, Ms Bilbrough said the public has "huge respect for the profession, and I do hope it will continue when people go back to their normal lives… I hope they remember the sacrifices and the burdens that people within the profession have made over the past year and will continue to make for a little while longer".

Almost a tenth of York Hospital staff absent during coronavirus crisis

https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/18460772.almost-tenth-york-hospital-staff-absent-coronavirus-crisis/

10% not turning up is average for York.

 

Alert the courts. Another Beverley Allitt type, clearly.

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I worked for a few years at a Hospice to switch them over from manual systems to computerised.  One of the systems was for patient records, but the other was for staff rotas/training dates/sickness etc.

I was keen to show off how useful all the systems would be to them, so put together a monthly reporting package of various "key indicators" that I thought they would find useful, of both patient and staff data.  They loved the patient data ones, but weren't so keen on the staff ones, especially the monthly sickness report.

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