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Free twice weekly covid tests for every household


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What a fucking farce. Any tests delivered to my house are going straight in the bin. 

Listen, 'Hancock'.  Our freedoms are god-given, as freeborn Britons. They are not in the gift of jumped up congress-wallahs like you. So crawl back under whatever stone you came out from.

From this friday. Now.......for those who thought i was bullshitting that you WILL give up 3 years of your lives for this shamdemic: Lateral flow test give one in a thousand false positives.

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Be interesting to know when these LFT's were ordered and manufactured. We must have absolutely billions of the things. I've got three here.

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WorkingPoor

It is coming out of the 2 year £37bn Nhs Test & Trace budget. 

Note 2 year

 

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Yadda yadda yadda

How many will be binned unused? Pollution catastrophe. Are they safe for landfill or burning?

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Just now, Yadda yadda yadda said:

How many will be binned unused? Pollution catastrophe. Are they safe for landfill or burning?

That's all they're safe for.

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Just now, Yadda yadda yadda said:

How many will be binned unused? Pollution catastrophe. Are they safe for landfill or burning?

As far as I can tell, pollution doesn't happen with anything Covid-related. Or so it would seem from the media.

Just now, Popuplights said:

What a fucking farce. Any tests delivered to my house are going straight in the bin. 

It'll save me buying cotton wool buds to clean my ears out with.

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WorkingPoor
6 minutes ago, Austin Allegro said:

As far as I can tell, pollution doesn't happen with anything Covid-related. Or so it would seem from the media.

 

You should see the masks i have potted up round my way xD

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Hancock
30 minutes ago, eight said:

Be interesting to know when these LFT's were ordered and manufactured. We must have absolutely billions of the things. I've got three here.

Im more interested in who got the contract to order them.

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M S E Refugee

This new initiative would only be feasible if asymptomatic spread was a thing.

Has it been proven that asymptomatic spread is one of the main drivers of infection?

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3 minutes ago, M S E Refugee said:

This new initiative would only be feasible if asymptomatic spread was a thing.

Has it been proven that asymptomatic spread is one of the main drivers of infection?

think LFTs are 50% accurate at identifying positive cases in asymptomatic people

send the tests to 10 downing street

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This might have made sense six months ago.

Totally pointless now.

Horse, stable door and all that.

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They are after the false positive rate.

100,000 per week

From the 100 million weekly tests

Will blame asymptomatic for the cancelling of re opening

Note it starts in 4 days time

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How long till it’s compulsory in order to maintain green status on your covid app?

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6 minutes ago, Wight Flight said:

This might have made sense six months ago.

Totally pointless now.

Horse, stable door and all that.

Agree! They've been bought and they want to use them up, rather than "waste" them.

My local mini-mart seems to have stocked up on Easter Eggs. I suppose they could be Whitsun eggs soon, then Solstice eggs

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1 minute ago, MrPin said:

Agree! They've been bought and they want to use them up, rather than "waste" them.

My local mini-mart seems to have stocked up on Easter Eggs. I suppose they could be Whitsun eggs soon, then Solstice eggs

No they haven’t. It’s a new contract, £700m

https://www.contractsfinder.service.gov.uk/notice/d2574d94-13d2-423f-b744-47330680fe02?

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13 minutes ago, Mirror Mirror said:

718 S. Primrose Ave, Monrovia,, Monrovia, 91016

california.

innova medical group.

had large boxes of these through the warehouse since january.

marked as antigen

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apples

Nice little earner for someone and their mates. Paid for from our pockets, as usual.

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3 minutes ago, apples said:

Nice little earner for someone and their mates. Paid for from our pockets, as usual.

Lots of extra work for the posties.

@WorkingPoor

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Surely the most brain dead Pro-Vaxxer must be thinking that these vaccines don't really work if you keep having to be tested.

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Innova lateral flow test is not fit for “test and release” strategy

The government has claimed that rapid lateral flow covid-19 tests, which are being used in mass testing pilots in England and can provide results in 30 minutes, are “accurate and sensitive enough to be used in the community,” after evaluation results were published.1

However, experts warn that the tests may miss as many as half of covid-19 cases, depending on who is using them—making them unsuitable for a “test and release” strategy to enable people to leave lockdown or to allow students to go home from university.

The ongoing assessment, carried out by Public Health England’s Porton Down laboratory and the University of Oxford, tested a number of lateral flow devices in different settings including hospitals, schools, and universities.

The Innova SARS-CoV-2 Antigen Rapid Qualitative Test, which has been used in the Liverpool mass testing pilot to detect infections,2 is the first test to near completion of the four stage evaluation process. A report reviewed 8774 Innova tests carried out across a number of groups including outpatients with SARS-CoV-2, healthcare staff, armed forces personnel, and school students aged 11-18.

It found an overall sensitivity of 76.8%, but this rose to over 95% in individuals with high viral loads. The overall specificity of the test was reported as 99.68%, meaning a false positive rate of 0.32% (22/6967 tests.)

The evaluation found that the test performed best when used by laboratory scientists when the sensitivity was 79% (156/197 positive: 79.2% (95% confidence interval 72.8% to 84.6%)).

Sensitivity dropped to 73% when used by trained healthcare staff (92/126 positive: 73.0% (64.3% to 80.5%)) and to 58% with self-trained members of the public (214/372 positive: 57.5% (52.3% to 62.6%)).

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Jonathan Ball, professor of molecular virology at the University of Nottingham, said that these tests could offer some use in terms of community surveillance.

“Even though it won’t detect as many infected individuals as the PCR [polymerase chain reaction] test, it will identify those with the highest viral loads, and it’s those people who are most likely to go on to infect others,” he said. “It won’t replace other tests like PCR, but it is a useful additional tool for coronavirus control.”

Meanwhile, Jon Deeks, professor of biostatistics at the University of Birmingham and leader of the Cochrane Collaboration’s covid-19 test evaluation activities, highlighted concerns about the findings from the testing centre evaluation, where people self-administered the test. The report said that the test’s sensitivity was 58% when used by the public and that the false positive rate was 0.38% (0.16% to 0.88%).

He said that, while 0.4% (400 in 100 000) was a very low rate, with a sensitivity of 58% and specificity of 99.6%, this would mean that 100 000 people being tested would find 630 positives—of which only 230 would actually have covid-19, while 400 would be false positives.

“The poor detection rate of the test makes it entirely unsuitable for the government’s claim that it will allow safe ‘test and release’ of people from lockdown and students from university,” he warned. “As the test may miss up to half of covid-19 cases, a negative test result indicates a reduced risk of infection but does not exclude covid-19.

“Independent evaluations for the World Health Organization have shown that other lateral flow antigen tests are likely to outperform Innova, but even those do not have high enough sensitivity to rule out covid-19. The Innova test is certainly not fit for use for this purpose.”

Deeks added that it was of “immense concern that the [UK government’s] Moonshot plans have not undergone any scientific scrutiny by experts such as our National Screening Committee.”

The leaked Operation Moonshot documents, revealed by The BMJ,3 showed that the government was planning to implement a testing for access scheme, which would use rapid turnaround testing to “give people assurance that, at least for a limited time, they are unlikely to have the virus and are at low risk of transmitting it to others.”

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Thinking more about this, can they tell that someone has actually used a test? Versus sending it back unused?

I could see an outcome where a recent negative test was required as a kind of passport to go shopping.

Why would I want to stick the test up my nose in that case? No benefit to me, only downsides. If I send it back after just running it under the tap, I'm guaranteed a negative result, and so can do what I want*.

(* except that I won't be going anywhere that wants me to humour this bollocks)

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