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How often do you use NHS services


How often do you use NHS services  

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Chewing Grass

Simple question for NI payers, how often do you use the NHS

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201p

 

If you see a NHS Dentist - that is probably once a year.

If you get a repeat prescription that is monthly - a doctor has to issue a  prescription, and sign it electronically.  Picking up a NHS prescription also uses Pharmacies that are contractors of the NHS.

Getting NHS glasses - that might be every two years.

If you need a review of your medication this might be once a year by a Nurse - diabetes, Asthma.

Unplanned uses - DIY/ gardening accidents A&E, Chest infections: that could be once a year.

Specialist Consultant management - appointments for specialist conditions, that could be every year.

Annual Vaccinations - Flu. That's every year. With Covid that could be annual as well, although they'll probably add it to Flu. 

Travel Vaccinations was a huge growth area in the last decade  - pre pandemic you might want to go on Safari, or visit Thailand, Vietnam, go travelling in Australia. People go on a few cruises a year that need vaccinations also. Malaria tablets also.

Health Screening - Cervical Cancer (every 3-5 years), Breast Cancer (every 3 years)

There's probably more.

See how that adds up?! Now stand up and start clapping you ungrateful lot xD 

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Andersen

Can't remember the last time I visited a GP maybe 10+ years ago? A visit to a walk-in eye clinic due to an infection 20+ years ago. 2 hospital stays many years ago for surgery / injuries, also had a season ticket for local casualty as a kid due to knocks, scrapes, cuts.... 

I tried ringing 101 about 10 years ago for non-emergency advice and literally told them to fuck off as their admin meant they couldn't talk to me unitil I passed thier security checks - and their data was wrong so I would never pass. They called back several times trying to follow their tickbox procedure - very frustrating !

Dentists as / when I think there's a problem. I'm often working away so it's not easy to have a regular checkup at a "home" dentist and don't see the need to pay for the privilege of having somebody else clean my teeth and tell me they're fine. Have had to pay private in the past as dentists in my area aren't taking on / keeping NHS patients who can't make regular appointments. Did have good service 20+ years ago when I was on the books of the local dentist training school as a victim / volunteer for students to practice on, not sure who should have been paying who for that setup??

Can I claim a refund for the years I've paid for the services & not used them ? 

@201p Clap? They can fuck off and get a proper job instead of practicing their tic-toc dances.

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201p

I think the NHS could be better but mis managed. I don't know if it is salvagable or it can be turned around - the Tories know this answer. There was a good time for it - maybe in the 1990s.

Do we remember a good time for the NHS? Maybe it is different for everyone.

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Andersen

Like a lot of other things, it's bureacratic, target driven and risk-averse (but inconsistent so some potentailly critical cases are not processed, others have huge resources allocated). Being non-contribution based it attracts a lot of patients from overses.

Stats are unreliable but most put the NHS high on the list of top 10 largest employers in the world. Crazy. https://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/chart/the-nhs-is-the-world-s-fifth-largest-employer or https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-17429786 

The NHS problems are not due to lack of funding, I see it as too much waste - non-productive staff & poor processes (I've tried to return expensive medical equipment from a deceased estate and been told it's not possible without the original paperwork, even when the items have NHS ID labels on them - I got told to take them to the tip !)

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Frank Hovis

I have a NHS dentist so once every two years would be about right.

Though over the last thirty years in total maybe once every five years.

I am suitably grateful that I have decent health.

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DTMark

While in the UK:

Dentist - Private

GP - Private

No operations or hospital attendance.

The last GP appointment and use of the NHS was for an allergy test about 7 years ago.

Prescription for asthma inhaler about 4 times a year - privately provided, privately dispensed (cost about the same, the NHS doesn't appear to subsidise those).

No GP appointments available online.

Lead time for a GP appointment by phone was around 3 weeks.

What NHS?

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DTMark
1 hour ago, 201p said:

the Tories know this answer.

 

I'm not sure that the Conservatives really "know the answer" but know that the current model doesn't work and can never work, if by "work" we mean "deliver good, timely outcomes" to rival those of alternative systems and in other countries.

They certainly know that just shoving more and more money into it will never produce the returns one might expect and that is is potentially a bottomless pit.

Cameron was quite good about appearing sincere in his praise for the NHS. It was difficult to tell what he really thought, if it was different to what he said in public.

Boris does not come across as sincere about many things, so it's easy to suppose he thinks the NHS is fairly crap.

Matt Hancock is one of those people who has absolutely no capability to hide his true feelings or to inject any enthusiasm for something he probably thinks is crap and so just parrots the same old lines with no conviction whatsoever ("I'm the man who has to stand here and say this"), and it's really obvious.

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JoeDavola

The NHS has done a lot for me over the years.

For all their faults, if I added up the cost of treatment in the first 15 years of me life then I'm probably up on the deal for any tax that I pay throughout my working life. I should probably bear that in mind when I complain about taxes ect.

Last NHS surgery was getting a kidney stone removed a few years back which to their credit was done quickly and I'm grateful for.

I continue to use an NHS dentist and I'm very lucky that I have a good one that I trust.

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spunko
2 hours ago, 201p said:

I think the NHS could be better but mis managed. I don't know if it is salvagable or it can be turned around - the Tories know this answer. There was a good time for it - maybe in the 1990s.

Do we remember a good time for the NHS? Maybe it is different for everyone.

The good times for the NHS was of course when it was invented by Saint Nye. But the "wonder years" of the NHS were during 1997 - 2010, this was when Blair lavished it with cash and hyper-qualified Filipino nurslings were imported en masse to keep it afloat.

The worst time for the NHS is always today. Even if you think back to 1997-2010  at the time the NHS was  - we were told - at risk of imminent and catastrophic failure any second.

If it's a Tory government in power then the NHS is at risk of imminent death. If it's Labour it's at risk of imminent death too but only on page 2.

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DTMark
5 minutes ago, spunko said:

The good times for the NHS was of course when it was invented by Saint Nye.

 

I don't imagine he envisaged that it would provide IVF treatment, nor medicine and/or surgery for gender "transition".

Perhaps the starting question should be "What is the NHS actually supposed to do?"

And then go on to have the same conversation about the Welfare State and the government generally.

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snaga

NHS have a monopoly, you may as well ask how many times you have needed medical services in the UK.

I last used an NHS Dentist in 2019, and did need some NHS services in 2017. That's about it for the past decade.

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The Grey Man

All dental issues..abroad...since 2007. 2007..paid private for a wisdom tooth out as it was causing me issues...before that last used around year 2000.

NHS Dental done a grand job of fucking my teeth up in my earlier years. Corrected there after when abroad.

Stopped a repeat prescription for Omeprazole years back. Purchased from overseas multiples cheaper than a repeat script or shop.

Cyst on my forehead. Refused to do on the NHS as it was deemed cosmetic. Sebaceous Cyst from the eye of faith here in the UK. No it wasnt. It was a Lipoma. Had removed abroad with pathology. Thanks guys.

I would add I saved for these procedures.

The UK has an attitude at times in this area, especially dental work. Sure not all can afford. Hearing this off folk who have some uber smart TV, the once obligatory foriegn holiday...you name your poison. Yet you wont cough up for any health issues?

The systems shite outside emergencies. Disagree. Fine. 

Yep. Most pay NI. Demand all you want. You deserve it...make a stand..it will not get better if you do not....If you are not receiving care though what do you do? Some battles you will not win.

Everyone has a choice.

 

 

 

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Libspero

Never saw a doctor for decades,  then last year I needed a minor operation,  this year I’ve needed a blood test.

Would have been more with dental,  except I couldn’t get an NHS dentist, and the emergency one misdiagnosed.  Went private in the end.

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DoINeedOne

Have not needed to go to the Dr's for years, not even registered at one

Went to A&E few years back after cracked my head open and after few days felt pressure headache but blood test and scan showed it was fine

Currently paying private for dentist 

Once every other year i pay private for blood tests just to check overall levels out of curiosity 

 

 

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sarahbell
On 11/04/2021 at 21:42, Chewing Grass said:

Simple question for NI payers, how often do you use the NHS

And what if we don't pay NI, do you still want to know?

I pay for the opticians, I pay for prescriptions, I pay for my dentist. 
I got a free smear test, a free mammogram last year. 

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Chewing Grass
3 minutes ago, sarahbell said:

And what if we don't pay NI, do you still want to know?

I pay for the opticians, I pay for prescriptions, I pay for my dentist. 
I got a free smear test, a free mammogram last year. 

Not really, perhaps it should have just been how often do you use the NHS.

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Just now, Chewing Grass said:

Not really, perhaps it should have just been how often do you use the NHS.

As little as possible.
Over a lifetime, bare in mind my hospital stay when I had my son was about 10x longer than they get these days. I think they barely pop the baby out before they're thrown out. Maternity services can't wait for more funding. They have to manage with what they have. Maybe maternity should manage the whole shebang. 
I've had an arm op and two septoplastys. Huge amount of money really. Couple of lots of physio. Some CBT. Counselling years ago. Although that was not worth a bean. 
Couple of x-rays. Couple of A&E visits (3 maybe) 

 

I've used it a lot I think over the years. 

 


 

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AWW

I don't. The NHS has been directly responsible for the death of my grandad, the permanent disablement of my mum, gave my daughter facial scarring and caused my mrs years of unnecessary pain, now thankfully resolved after paying £2.5k for an op in a private hospital (the consultant was so shocked at her treatment that he waived his fee).

It's shit. If I could opt out of it and get a tax rebate, I would.

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UnconventionalWisdom

I'm the anomaly who certainly gets my money's worth. Had melanoma fully removed just over 4 years ago. Had further surgery- wider excision and sentinel node biopsy which were clear. Then it was checkups every 3 months and scans every 6. Had a recurrence removed just over a year ago and was then put on immunotheraphy for a year. Another recurrence was fully removed at the end of the year so they have signed me off on another year. Blood checks every 3 weeks, consultations (still over the phone) every 3, treatment every 6 weeks and scans every 3 months. Treatment price would be about £90k if I had to pay market rate, nhs buy in bulk so get a discount. 

 

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