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Tourist tax

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Yep..  we got that in Majorca in the summer.

Slightly more bizarrely there,  they actually made it ilegal to take food out of the all inclusive hotels as well.  I originally thought it was just the hotels using it as an excuse to save money stocking the buffets,  but on googling it turned out it actually is a local law there at the request of restaurant owners worried hotels were putting them out of business.

To me, both that and the tourist tax seem overly socialist,  but I guess the free market will determine whether it is enough to put people off going there. It does leave a bitter taste in the mouth..  as evidenced by your being annoyed enough to start this thread..

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19 minutes ago, Chewing Grass said:

I view it as part and parcel of the collapse of western economies.

Just look at how the whole taxation scenario has changed since income tax was first introduced to fund the Napoleonic wars.

It starts as a little bit, then gradually increases, someone then dreams up consumption taxes on nice things then they invent VAT to cover most everything else.

VAT starts at 5% a nice simple number , then goes up to 7.5% then 10% then 20%, see a pattern.

Soon people are becoming poorer so spend their money more carefully, it reaches a point where to keep punters going on holiday tour operators dream up all inclusive so customers can give all their money to the large corporate holiday entity and not worry about if they have enough spends.

Now everyone else other than the tour operator and the big hotel starts to loose out.

The only way to extract cash is to now impose a tourist tax.

At some point the whole system will collapse once the ability to increase taxes compromises spending.

Think it's due to double next year.

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28 minutes ago, Chewing Grass said:

I view it as part and parcel of the collapse of western economies.

Just look at how the whole taxation scenario has changed since income tax was first introduced to fund the Napoleonic wars.

It starts as a little bit, then gradually increases, someone then dreams up consumption taxes on nice things then they invent VAT to cover most everything else.

VAT starts at 5% a nice simple number , then goes up to 7.5% then 10% then 20%, see a pattern.

Soon people are becoming poorer so spend their money more carefully, it reaches a point where to keep punters going on holiday tour operators dream up all inclusive so customers can give all their money to the large corporate holiday entity and not worry about if they have enough spends.

Now everyone else other than the tour operator and the big hotel starts to loose out.

The only way to extract cash is to now impose a tourist tax.

At some point the whole system will collapse once the ability to increase taxes compromises spending.

Or a Black Swan event/s destroys the industry.

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9 minutes ago, Cunning Plan said:

Please clarify. What is the tourist tax and who pays it?

Chumps trying to exit the country at airports & ports, they hit you when you leave so they have already taken all your cash on holiday then you leave with a slap of a wet kipper around the face. 

Give them nothing, let them sink.

Harvest your dose of Vitamin D during the UK summer months by going outside, no need to fund the economies of bankrupt southern european states, they only have comtempt for tourists anyway and just want to extract what they can from you. 

Edited by WorkingPoor

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2 minutes ago, WorkingPoor said:

Chumps trying to exit the country at airports & ports, they hit you when you leave so they have already taken all your cash on holiday then you leave with a slap of a wet kipper around the face. 

Give them nothing, let them sink.

Ok. Thanks. The Caribbean has been doing this for years. $10, must be paid in cash on departure. Sort of legalised bribe.

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4 minutes ago, WorkingPoor said:

Chumps trying to exit the country at airports & ports, they hit you when you leave so they have already taken all your cash on holiday then you leave with a slap of a wet kipper around the face. 

Give them nothing, let them sink.

I got stung when checking into the hotel.  Think it's fairly new here and applies to anyone staying in the Balearics or Catalonia.

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1 minute ago, Cunning Plan said:

Ok. Thanks. The Caribbean has been doing this for years. $10, must be paid in cash on departure. Sort of legalised bribe.

My son has just come back from the Caribbean I think he said it was now $40.

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I think it i per person so a large family pays quite a bit some £40 odd

As i mentioned, expect this spanish tourist tax to be abolished shortly as part of a damage limitation programme for their tourist industry that will be desperatley rolled out over the coming months. 

Edited by WorkingPoor

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1 minute ago, Chewing Grass said:

My son has just come back from the Caribbean I think he said it was now $40.

I think it varies by country. 

But I don't have a problem with it. The rise in all inclusive (which I will never visit) means that the host nation can get very little benefit from tourists but still incurs costs. 

If you don't want to give something back, don't go there.

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Tourist tax is sometimes added as a percentage on hotel bills, often you get something in return like a free travel pass for local trains and buses for the duration. Different to an airport departure tax/exit visa situation

Edited by Panther

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Don't forget all the tourist taxes on hotel bills and restaurant pricing.

You would have thought soaking other EU visitors to certain countries would be frowned upon/not allowed at all in the glorious EU level playing field. They are after all asymmetric taxation systems designed to fleece populations of one country in preference to others.

 

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Tbh, I think a tourist tax would be good for the UK. A tax of something like £5 a day would keep the poorer tourists out and make the British tourist experience better for the richer tourists. Let's face it, the tourists we want are the ones that will spend £10k a week - not the ones spending £200 a week. 

Like it or not, museums and public spaces are generally better with less people. I think rich tourists would willingly spend £5 a day to reduce the rif raf.

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They would just claim asylum to dodge the tourist charge otherwise migrants would be classed as tourists. On second thoughts if we are in the EU how can Spain get away with the charge in the first place if we are all citizens and the internal borders are open.

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