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You are f**ked work and money wise if you live on the coast

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41141647

The UK's coastal communities are among the country's worst off for earnings, employment, health and education, a report for the So-Called BBC has found. 

The Social Market Foundation said the economic gap between coastal and non-coastal places has grown.

Average wages are £3,600 a year lower in these "pockets of deprivation", according to the think tank.

Meanwhile, the minister for coastal communities has announced £40m in funding to help coastal areas. 

The report, produced for BBC Breakfast, found that five of the 10 local authorities in the UK with the highest unemployment rate for the three months to March 2017 were coastal.

 

even more blather at the link

 

in my home town, whitby, and Scarborough just down the coast, there are massive house building projects. THERE IS NO WORK, as the So-Called BBC seem to have suddenly discovered. What are these people going to do?  How will they pay for themselves?  

Yeah, I know, it will be all funded by the taxpayer. So not only do the feckless workshy get to dodge work, they also get to live by the sea in a shin new house. 

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Most annual train tickets into London must be £3600+, plus the higher cost of housing. Not quite a bleak as reported if you can eek out a higher band wage in an outlying area in terms of overall quality of life. Also lots of doleys have been trundled off to coastal locations as mentioned so no idea how the overall stats have been skewed. Add tax credits on top and for most probably far better off lifestyle wise  outside of metropolitan areas apart from the hefty lump sum housing gains which most have become accustomed to, take those away and salving for half a lifetime in commuting/working inLondon does not look such a good life plan.

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36 minutes ago, One percent said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41141647

The UK's coastal communities are among the country's worst off for earnings, employment, health and education, a report for the So-Called BBC has found. 

The Social Market Foundation said the economic gap between coastal and non-coastal places has grown.

Average wages are £3,600 a year lower in these "pockets of deprivation", according to the think tank.

Meanwhile, the minister for coastal communities has announced £40m in funding to help coastal areas. 

The report, produced for BBC Breakfast, found that five of the 10 local authorities in the UK with the highest unemployment rate for the three months to March 2017 were coastal.

 

even more blather at the link

 

in my home town, whitby, and Scarborough just down the coast, there are massive house building projects. THERE IS NO WORK, as the So-Called BBC seem to have suddenly discovered. What are these people going to do?  How will they pay for themselves?  

Yeah, I know, it will be all funded by the taxpayer. So not only do the feckless workshy get to dodge work, they also get to live by the sea in a shin new house. 

You can do it too, if you want. Get with the Gordon Brown Zeitgeist

Sell up in your SE suburb, buy houses up round Whitby for you and all your offspring, and start a family dogwalking business, all of you can do 16 hours a week and probably live as well as you do now especially if you can find a bit of blackmarket work and if you count the extra free time as being a benefit. You may have a lot of EE and Islamic neighbours though, but that looks likely wherever you will be.

 

 

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17 minutes ago, swissy_fit said:

You can do it too, if you want. Get with the Gordon Brown Zeitgeist

Sell up in your SE suburb, buy houses up round Whitby for you and all your offspring, and start a family dogwalking business, all of you can do 16 hours a week and probably live as well as you do now especially if you can find a bit of blackmarket work and if you count the extra free time as being a benefit. You may have a lot of EE and Islamic neighbours though, but that looks likely wherever you will be.

 

 

I've seen what that kind of lifestyle does to people. Turns them into useless mouth breathers afaict. No ta. xD

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1 hour ago, One percent said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41141647

The UK's coastal communities are among the country's worst off for earnings, employment, health and education, a report for the So-Called BBC has found. 

The Social Market Foundation said the economic gap between coastal and non-coastal places has grown.

Average wages are £3,600 a year lower in these "pockets of deprivation", according to the think tank.

Meanwhile, the minister for coastal communities has announced £40m in funding to help coastal areas. 

The report, produced for BBC Breakfast, found that five of the 10 local authorities in the UK with the highest unemployment rate for the three months to March 2017 were coastal.

 

even more blather at the link

 

in my home town, whitby, and Scarborough just down the coast, there are massive house building projects. THERE IS NO WORK, as the So-Called BBC seem to have suddenly discovered. What are these people going to do?  How will they pay for themselves?  

Yeah, I know, it will be all funded by the taxpayer. So not only do the feckless workshy get to dodge work, they also get to live by the sea in a shin new house. 

it`s the same where i am loads of building but just about all the "starter " homes are marketed/ for sale on a shared equity basis  

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1 minute ago, the gardener said:

The problem with just about any coastal community is geography. Just because of the fact you are on the coast, 50%+ of the surrounding area is sea and hence has no towns, industry etc. Right away the employment options are limited.

Least you haven't got the competition from other workers living in the half that is sea though! But yes geography counts, distribution is highly centralised and you want to be centered as much as possible with drop points in an even distribution around you, which also reinforced by all  the major roadways being aligned similarly to provide largest passenger movements per mile of road / motorway built. Some costs are raised, some lowered, it is not a complete block on business, good telecoms and a nice working environment can still attract the best staff, particularly if metropolitan areas continue on their current trajectory.

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5 minutes ago, the gardener said:

The problem with just about any coastal community is geography. Just because of the fact you are on the coast, 50%+ of the surrounding area is sea and hence has no towns, industry etc. Right away the employment options are limited.

In the event that all the sea-related employment options are removed/taken by other nations and government makes no effort to encourage new industries that are sea-related, yes.  Perhaps once outside the EU they will be more pro-active? Hmm I doubt it. 

You would think, for example, that the NE coast would be a decent location for the manufacture of the new giant floating wind turbines, those things are huge and must need really big establishments to make them. And what about all the maintenance?  Think Hull has a Siemens factory that does some, haven't heard of much else.

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Just now, swissy_fit said:

In the event that all the sea-related employment options are removed/taken by other nations and government makes no effort to encourage new industries that are sea-related, yes.  Perhaps once outside the EU they will be more pro-active? Hmm I doubt it. 

You would think, for example, that the NE coast would be a decent location for the manufacture of the new giant floating wind turbines, those things are huge and must need really big establishments to make them. And what about all the maintenance?  Think Hull has a Siemens factory that does some, haven't heard of much else.

Good points. I was of course talking about the current situation whereby successive Government's decisions have decimated all the traditional coastal industries.

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1 minute ago, the gardener said:

Good points. I was of course talking about the current situation whereby successive Government's decisions have decimated all the traditional coastal industries.

Whelk racing?

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1 minute ago, swissy_fit said:

In the event that all the sea-related employment options are removed/taken by other nations and government makes no effort to encourage new industries that are sea-related, yes.  Perhaps once outside the EU they will be more pro-active? Hmm I doubt it. 

You would think, for example, that the NE coast would be a decent location for the manufacture of the new giant floating wind turbines, those things are huge and must need really big establishments to make them. And what about all the maintenance?  Think Hull has a Siemens factory that does some, haven't heard of much else.

Maybe Bridge in Chepstow  used to make the columns they went through the hoop last year (Excalibur steel bought the kit for a song it`s rusting away on their plant doing nowt  ) and i believe the Siemens factory is looking to expand  

9 minutes ago, MrPin said:

Whelk racing?

Good money in whelks ...our Japaneses friends love them 

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14 minutes ago, Green Devil said:

Does anyone believe the constant stream of bullshit these days spouted by the So-Called BBC?

No, nor by our so called elected representatives. Best position is to assume the opposite of what we are told. 

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1 hour ago, the gardener said:

The problem with just about any coastal community is geography. Just because of the fact you are on the coast, 50%+ of the surrounding area is sea and hence has no towns, industry etc. Right away the employment options are limited.

and parking - since the economic collapse and councillors decided that they weren't ever going to suffer financially and decided to extend the parking pay zones and parking restrictions most everywhere as well as put up the price of parking.  Which brings them in line with the towns and cities.

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7 minutes ago, twocents said:

.£40m.

Might as well not have bothered.  Better than nothing but only just.

The UK has 7,723 miles of coastline. Assuming "coastal areas" includes everything up to about 5 miles inland you are looking in the order of 38615 square miles. So a bit over £1000/sq mile.

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31 minutes ago, Hail the Tripod said:

The UK has 7,723 miles of coastline. Assuming "coastal areas" includes everything up to about 5 miles inland you are looking in the order of 38615 square miles. So a bit over £1000/sq mile.

So on average roughly about £1 per person (as on average the population density of the UK is very roughly about 1000 per square mile).

Compared to the £hundreds of billions even £trillions in funding/bailouts to help the "City" and its one square mile.  It helps to put it all in perspective.

 

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Coastal Communities Minister Jake Berry said: "From the world-renowned Blackpool illuminations to Brighton's i360, our coastal towns and cities have a lot to offer all year round.

"This year is already looking like another record year for staycations and our latest round of funding will help attract even more visitors to the great British coast so that our coastal communities can thrive."

 

Give over man.  Most everybody can see right through the bullshine and blather.

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1 hour ago, Long time lurking said:

Maybe Bridge in Chepstow  used to make the columns they went through the hoop last year (Excalibur steel bought the kit for a song it`s rusting away on their plant doing nowt  ) and i believe the Siemens factory is looking to expand  

Good money in whelks ...our Japaneses friends love them 

I bloody love them - A day trip from Manchester south to Barmouth for a rubbery hit. Malt vinegar, salt n pepper. Yum.

Blackpool must be the most decimated/deprived/enriched of all the coastal towns in the uk. Just ask sarge :(

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3 hours ago, One percent said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41141647

The UK's coastal communities are among the country's worst off for earnings, employment, health and education, a report for the So-Called BBC has found. 

The Social Market Foundation said the economic gap between coastal and non-coastal places has grown.

Average wages are £3,600 a year lower in these "pockets of deprivation", according to the think tank.

Meanwhile, the minister for coastal communities has announced £40m in funding to help coastal areas

The report, produced for BBC Breakfast, found that five of the 10 local authorities in the UK with the highest unemployment rate for the three months to March 2017 were coastal.

 

even more blather at the link

 

in my home town, whitby, and Scarborough just down the coast, there are massive house building projects. THERE IS NO WORK, as the So-Called BBC seem to have suddenly discovered. What are these people going to do?  How will they pay for themselves?  

Yeah, I know, it will be all funded by the taxpayer. So not only do the feckless workshy get to dodge work, they also get to live by the sea in a shin new house. 

Please God save us from these interfering tossers. People move to the coast for a peaceful existence away from the more 'prosperous' parts of the country. We don't want to live in Slough. 

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18 minutes ago, whitevanman said:

Please God save us from these interfering tossers. People move to the coast for a peaceful existence away from the more 'prosperous' parts of the country. We don't want to live in Slough. 

Good point - and it's sickening the way they try to pretend that it's a fortune when it's anything but along with the self serving bullshine that always goes with their cheap tuppenny ha'penny so called help.

In any event it'll more than likely go towards stuff like council executive's wages and pensions and more parking restrictions.

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There's a number of reasons.

1) Geography. Most coastal areas are well away from Urban areas. Places like Hartlepool/middlesbrough (yes, its near the coast!) are unusual.

And being on the coast limits your commute. Live in land and you can travel ~1h N, S, E or W for work. Live in Whitby and youve lost half your compass/area.

2) Coastal councils spend too much time + money on tourism. Mainly because a lot of councillors are connected to tourism by business. Hello Joe P!

Rather than spend time on things to help the entire local community, time is spent pissing around with P=R, or not handling tourist related traffic congestion.

3) Benefits.

People used to move to the cities to find work.

Since the Gordonisation of benefits people move to the coast to avoid work.

Doley scum brings a lot of problems and drive working people away.

BBC's top rated comment:

"city councils are sending problem people out of the way to costal resorts.
big run down victorian guest houses turned into bail hostels, etc.
benefits culture rife in these places."

 

Are there exception? Yep - Brighton for one.

Why? Good transport links to London.

What are spy's recommendtions?

 

1. Invest in transport links, so coastal areas are plugged into the nearest urban area. There's no reason why Scabby could not be Brighton to Leed's Lodnon. Commute time is 70m v. 1h (Southern rail exception).

No need to spend more.. Take the money from 2):

2. Move to time limited, contribution benefit. Restrict all social housing to those with jobs and/or local connections.

Jobless wessies in Scabby can be housed 20 to a house in Eastfield.

 

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Australian coastal communities seem to manage fine, and Americans, and Spanish, and Portugese.

Maybe it's just that all our seaside towns are complete dumps?

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1 minute ago, choochoo said:

Australian coastal communities seem to manage fine, and Americans, and Spanish, and Portugese.

Maybe it's just that all our seaside towns are complete dumps?

Very different geography in Oz.

 

The major urban centres in Oz are on the coast. Hinterland is the bush.

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