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The political implications of vaccine deaths


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wherebee

Been thinking about this today, trying to get something positive out of the shitstorm.  One of the possible scenarios coming up in the next year or so is:

  • 'Healthy' vaccinated have a higher level of death than usual, due to reactions to the jab short/long term, plus increased vulnerability to COVID mutations driven by the leaky vaccine.  Both of these factors are not in question - there have been a number of people dead from the jab already, and the vaccine does not give as broad a protection as natural immunity
  • vaccinated also have a higher level of miscarriage/stillbirths, based on several reports (although not studied scientifically yet, AFAIK)
  • those who rushed to vaccinate are generally more trusting of government, and more progressive/woke (especially in the USA)
  • those who refused or delayed were either BAME or libertarian/small government/anti-authoritarian
  • amongst the old, political differences of acceptance are less, as the COVID risk is higher so more got jabbed whatever their views

 

If, as I suspect, death rates amongst jabbed will be higher from COVID and side effects in 2023 than non-jabbed, that could have a substantial impact on voting trends.  In short, we'd be seeing the potential elimination of hordes of woke voters.  Voting is to some extent genetic (seriously - lots of studies showing out-group altruism, for example, is genetic)

So.... it might be a good thing if everyone who is woke gets the jab.  It might enable a rolling back of the culture wars in many western countries.  Although we could well see BAME voters growing as a proportion in some areas as whitey dies off in larger proportions.

AIBU?

 

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Stuey

If it does, it won't become apparent in the data for a good few years by which point there will have been huge changes in government. I'm not sure there will be any appetite to go back over the memories of this terrible time, etc.

I think BAME+MAGA may become more of a thing in the US. Our equivalent may be BAME+Council Estates.

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AlfredTheLittle
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I doubt deaths will be on the scale to change the proportion of votes in themselves. More likely that there will be a general erosion of trust in government, but somebody has to be pm still whether they're trusted or not, so it may not make any difference. Look at our current choices, I doubt many people vote for Boris because they trust him, it's just that the other option is even worse.

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dgul
5 hours ago, wherebee said:

Been thinking about this today, trying to get something positive out of the shitstorm.  One of the possible scenarios coming up in the next year or so is:

  • 'Healthy' vaccinated have a higher level of death than usual, due to reactions to the jab short/long term, plus increased vulnerability to COVID mutations driven by the leaky vaccine.  Both of these factors are not in question - there have been a number of people dead from the jab already, and the vaccine does not give as broad a protection as natural immunity
  • vaccinated also have a higher level of miscarriage/stillbirths, based on several reports (although not studied scientifically yet, AFAIK)
  • those who rushed to vaccinate are generally more trusting of government, and more progressive/woke (especially in the USA)
  • those who refused or delayed were either BAME or libertarian/small government/anti-authoritarian
  • amongst the old, political differences of acceptance are less, as the COVID risk is higher so more got jabbed whatever their views

 

If, as I suspect, death rates amongst jabbed will be higher from COVID and side effects in 2023 than non-jabbed, that could have a substantial impact on voting trends.  In short, we'd be seeing the potential elimination of hordes of woke voters.  Voting is to some extent genetic (seriously - lots of studies showing out-group altruism, for example, is genetic)

So.... it might be a good thing if everyone who is woke gets the jab.  It might enable a rolling back of the culture wars in many western countries.  Although we could well see BAME voters growing as a proportion in some areas as whitey dies off in larger proportions.

AIBU?

 

It depends on the death rate in the jabbed.

But even if 1% of the jabbed die (that's IMO too high, unless we're very unlucky) the impact on voter numbers is negligible.

Sure, the 99% left will be rather cross about it all, but they'll ring-fence their ire just to 'who was to blame for the jab'.  And I don't even think this will be government (it will bring down the government, but not wokeness as that's different) -- it is 'science' that will be decimated by the fallout, IMO.

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6 hours ago, wherebee said:

In short, we'd be seeing the potential elimination of hordes of woke voters.

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On 18/05/2021 at 15:41, dgul said:

It depends on the death rate in the jabbed.

But even if 1% of the jabbed die (that's IMO too high, unless we're very unlucky) the impact on voter numbers is negligible.

Sure, the 99% left will be rather cross about it all, but they'll ring-fence their ire just to 'who was to blame for the jab'.  And I don't even think this will be government (it will bring down the government, but not wokeness as that's different) -- it is 'science' that will be decimated by the fallout, IMO.

If the outcome is fertility suppressing, then we will have to wait a generation for the right on woke lot to be electorally suppressed.

I will certainly be passed caring then, if not dead.

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Mirror Mirror
5 minutes ago, Bedrag Justesen said:

Our vaccines are safe.

 

And fully tested, and there are no long term adverse side effects.

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Bedrag Justesen
18 minutes ago, Mirror Mirror said:

And fully tested, and there are no long term adverse side effects.

Even if there are long term adverse side effects it is worth it to be fully covered now.

None of us can predict what the future holds.

 

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ashestoashes
6 minutes ago, Bedrag Justesen said:

Even if there are long term adverse side effects it is worth it to be fully covered now.

None of us can predict what the future holds.

 

it's a disgrace they're asking for non vaccinated blood plasma

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Bedrag Justesen
4 minutes ago, ashestoashes said:

it's a disgrace they're asking for non vaccinated blood plasma

If a double vaccinated person is given blood from an unvaccinated person they will likely be fully covered by their vaccine.

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ashestoashes
12 minutes ago, Bedrag Justesen said:

If a double vaccinated person is given blood from an unvaccinated person they will likely be fully covered by their vaccine.

they will be with jab, for sure

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stokiescum
On 18/05/2021 at 09:37, JoeDavola said:

The general public will never be made aware of any significant number of vaccine deaths. Most of them don’t want to believe a vaccine could cause harm anyway so will be happy to rationalise it as being due to something, anything else.

Correct another fact is the nhs has been the biggest spreader of it wiping out residents in care homes was obviously going to happen

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On 18/05/2021 at 04:07, wherebee said:

Been thinking about this today, trying to get something positive out of the shitstorm.  One of the possible scenarios coming up in the next year or so is:

  • 'Healthy' vaccinated have a higher level of death than usual, due to reactions to the jab short/long term, plus increased vulnerability to COVID mutations driven by the leaky vaccine.  Both of these factors are not in question - there have been a number of people dead from the jab already, and the vaccine does not give as broad a protection as natural immunity
  • vaccinated also have a higher level of miscarriage/stillbirths, based on several reports (although not studied scientifically yet, AFAIK)
  • those who rushed to vaccinate are generally more trusting of government, and more progressive/woke (especially in the USA)
  • those who refused or delayed were either BAME or libertarian/small government/anti-authoritarian
  • amongst the old, political differences of acceptance are less, as the COVID risk is higher so more got jabbed whatever their views

 

If, as I suspect, death rates amongst jabbed will be higher from COVID and side effects in 2023 than non-jabbed, that could have a substantial impact on voting trends.  In short, we'd be seeing the potential elimination of hordes of woke voters.  Voting is to some extent genetic (seriously - lots of studies showing out-group altruism, for example, is genetic)

So.... it might be a good thing if everyone who is woke gets the jab.  It might enable a rolling back of the culture wars in many western countries.  Although we could well see BAME voters growing as a proportion in some areas as whitey dies off in larger proportions.

AIBU?

 

They have already shown that they can eliminate the flu, they appear to be toying with the PCR cycles, prior to and after jabbage, and have the media entirely in their pocket.

Unless there are literally piles of bodies on hospital floors they have a good chance of breezing through this.

Unf.

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Democorruptcy

It's looks like it's all going tits up and will result in a Wokebankment instead of a Governbankment.

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