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PaulParanoia
Just now, Reck B said:

Gillick competence;

The right of a child under 16 to consent to medical examination and treatment, including immunization was decided by the House of Lords in Gillick v West Norfolk and Wisbech AHA [1986] where a mother of girls under 16 objected to Department of Health advice that allowed doctors to give contraceptive advice and treatment to children without parental consent.5 Their Lordships held that a child under 16 had the legal competence to consent to medical examination and treatment if they had sufficient maturity and intelligence to understand the nature and implications of that treatment.

 

I just don't understand why immunization was added into the law, following the above case which was solely about contraceptive advice and treatment.

Besides, not even the medical profession currently understand the nature and implications of COVID19 mRNA jabs so what chance does a 12-15 year old have? :PissedOff::Old:

 

 

Where did your definition come from?  I suspect the vaccination bit was only added recently.

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PaulParanoia
3 hours ago, Reck B said:

This article from 2014 uses tetanus immunisation as an example.  So it appears it has always covered vaccines. 

https://www.medicalprotection.org/uk/articles/eng-consent-children-and-young-people

Damn, I've become sceptical of everything the government publishes.  Having to check this with old pre-2020 articles.  They have totally lost my trust. :S

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3 hours ago, Reck B said:

I just don't understand why immunization was added into the law, following the above case

Well surely you do now?

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4 minutes ago, PaulParanoia said:

This article from 2014 uses tetanus immunisation as an example.  So it appears it has always covered vaccines. 

https://www.medicalprotection.org/uk/articles/eng-consent-children-and-young-people

Damn, I've become sceptical of everything the government publishes.  Having to check this with old pre-2020 articles.  They have totally lost my trust. :S

Thanks. 

it makes zero sense to me to add immunisation to what was originally an argument (and subsequent ruling/law) about contraception. Far too wide a scope in the resulting law.

I hope the law gets changed, but I fear it will be as a result of a child dying because a valid parental consent decision has been over ruled.

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The Grey Man

Some more crap from daughters school.

Reintroduction of one way system and masks.

The school will close a class with more than 3 off and report to the stasi.

The same school was in the local rag last year. The head received a barrage of email complaints for saving private granny.

Two worker subsitence area. Labour. But not everyone on a government number.

Not everyone has free pay for time off. Go on. I dare you. Talk about an invisible 500 notes one could claim

Wife sent me the email.

She was fuming.

I was smiling. Bring it on.

I told her to chill. The head will be off with stress by xmas.

He acted on the local CCG advise. He is the messenger. He will get it. The CCG. Well. Who knows what will happen when every one from 5 to 12 suddenly gets COVID after X mas.

You can run.

But for sure you wont be able to hide.

Why not whistleblow....send the shit back up the chute.

Watch the onslaught. What a sucker.

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1 hour ago, The Grey Man said:

Some more crap from daughters school.

Reintroduction of one way system and masks.

The school will close a class with more than 3 off and report to the stasi.

The same school was in the local rag last year. The head received a barrage of email complaints for saving private granny.

Two worker subsitence area. Labour. But not everyone on a government number.

Not everyone has free pay for time off. Go on. I dare you. Talk about an invisible 500 notes one could claim

Wife sent me the email.

She was fuming.

I was smiling. Bring it on.

I told her to chill. The head will be off with stress by xmas.

He acted on the local CCG advise. He is the messenger. He will get it. The CCG. Well. Who knows what will happen when every one from 5 to 12 suddenly gets COVID after X mas.

You can run.

But for sure you wont be able to hide.

Why not whistleblow....send the shit back up the chute.

Watch the onslaught. What a sucker.

They did this at daughter's school towards the end of last term.

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As it was only a request for consideration you could have always done something truly radical and declined to agree, allowing the children some sense of normality rather than the carefully crafted dystopia so desirous of the public sector. Perhaps I am expecting too much.
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Further to my previous, can I ask if you are absolutely confident of the legality of this development?
 
Since the tier system was consigned to the dustbin of history, all restrictions on freedom have been national in nature. Now it appears that tinpot local officials can unilaterally mandate measures, with the implication that the tier system has made a de facto return by stealth. Now I’ll concede that this may indeed be the case, although if so then I would have liked to have learned about it for the first time from somebody with more authority than you.
 
Of course it’s equally possible that Penelope Spring’s “intervention” has no legal standing at all, and that your response was therefore predictably over-zealous, and your communication with parents disingenuous.
 
It seems that the only way I can be absolutely certain of which of these positions is the correct one is if you could furnish me with a copy of the correspondence between Penelope Spring and the school, by return email. I look forward to receiving it.
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Hmm, “guidance”, “advised”. Now, I know what I think these words mean but hey, you’re the teacher!
 
I’d suggest that this has no legal standing whatsoever, and that parents should have been told that such a move was completely advisory and that mask wearing should be at their or their child’s discretion. I am now going to consider my next response to this matter and suggest that you do the same.

 

 

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1 minute ago, eight said:

They did this at daughter's school towards the end of last term.

Email exchange excerpts follow.

 

Useful.

Wife asking me to do a mindfuck email in reply.

I need to get this week done first.

I will post the email

 

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Hmm, “guidance”, “advised”. Now, I know what I think these words mean but hey, you’re the teacher!
 
I’d suggest that this has no legal standing whatsoever, and that parents should have been told that such a move was completely advisory and that mask wearing should be at their or their child’s discretion. I am now going to consider my next response to this matter and suggest that you do the same.

 

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The Grey Man

Dear Parents and Carers,

 

Unfortunately, positive cases of covid are increasing within our school.

We have liaised with the Local Authority and we will be introducing the following protective measures.

 

·   Face masks to be worn by all parents and staff when on the school site, including outdoors.

·   Staff to wear face masks when moving around inside the school building 

·   Assemblies to be cancelled

·   Siblings of children who have tested positive must not come into school until a negative PCR is obtained

·  Children of adults who have tested positive must not come into school until a negative PCR is obtained

·   If there are 3 or more cases in one class, we will classify the whole class as ‘close contacts’ and all children and staff would need to have a PCR test

 

I know whenever more restrictions come in place they bring with them a feeling that things are getting worse and yes cases are rising. However, I see these as positive measures we can take to help keep each other safe. If you have any questions, please email me, including your contact details, and I will phone you.

 

Thank you for your continued support

Kind regards,

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22 minutes ago, The Grey Man said:

Thank you for your continued support

Very annoying how these twats just assume, or are doing what they’re told, that everyone agrees with the bullshit.

Also disheartening and depressing. My kids are working and out of the school system but I feel truly sorry for parents with school age kids in this shitshow.

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Regardless of what the intentions are (ie facilitate the covid pass) it seems this vaccinate every child is what is wanted and needed. 

It's so obvious, first was no the vaccines weren't created for children and no definitely no plan to even consider.  Then softly softly ok just for the vulnerable.  Then we need to look at other countries doing it and put a lot of thought into it as it's a hard decision..... Then screw the experts decision when their recommendation wasn't forth coming, we're going to offer to everyone. 

Oh, our data and think tanks says parents may not consent - let's just go direct to kids if need be, their decision will be final. 

Of course all this time it's an individual decision, no coercion, certainly no bullying. 

Still let's front run this and get the celebs, nugde units and use all our insidious psychological trickery to make sure they make the right decision.

Still not good enough, oh step up the fearporn, case numbers, perma-masks  Also add in threats of vaccine apartheid for kids (including no education).  Let's keep the division going, hire more 77th brigade to AstroTurf the message boards and comments sections - sow division, discontent and hatred.  We're doing god's work here honest, they don't know it but this is what they need and they needed guided, pushed - and ultimately shoved.  Honest it's for the greater good going to war against our own ignorant population.  Trust your superior's there definitely not bought off, compromised, blackmailed or powerless.

 

I'm at a loss to explain things tbh - I really think it's time that a few feathers were ruffled and some of the bigger players or architects are carefully scrutinized.  You've got people like that Eric ding dong WEF global shaper bro and leana "winey" Wen in the US AstroTurfing the media with huge clout and influence - this constantly gets propagated here, first to people like Trisha the mask greenhalgh or Deepti gurdasani then onto the likes of journalists like carol caldwaller.

Expose the top -ie ding dong- first IMO - maybe the likes of deepti or Trisha the mask are just followers and genuinely believe what there doing is for the greater good.

 

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29 minutes ago, Dogtania said:

It's so obvious, first was no the vaccines weren't created for children and no definitely no plan to even consider.

I remember when children couldn't even get covid.

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Chewing Grass
33 minutes ago, Dogtania said:

Expose the top -ie ding dong- first IMO - maybe the likes of deepti or Trisha the mask are just followers and genuinely believe what there doing is for the greater good.

Yeah go for the idiot with a stupid name who isn't even a medical doctor Mr Ding-Dong - what a Carry On, Ding-Ding.

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The Grey Man

Flu jab day at my duaghters school.

6 or 7 did not have the flu jab. About 30 in the class.

Mine didnt because I am a retard conspiracy freak. A cunt. Low IQ, inbred red neck. My finer features.

Or..she can gamble on longer term primary immunity.

My plan pre COVID.

Me. Will go to Boots when flu appears to be on the uptick and not waste my three months of immunity. Of course I could double boost but I doubt the Goldman Klingon understands much about plasma viscosity and secondary possible risks.

I reached the point in 2018 after a bout of flu that I dont mind the gamble on them getting the right N H  antigens.

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On 12/10/2021 at 21:00, The Grey Man said:

Dear Parents and Carers,

 

Unfortunately, positive cases of covid are increasing within our school.

We have liaised with the Local Authority and we will be introducing the following protective measures.

 

·   Face masks to be worn by all parents and staff when on the school site, including outdoors.

·   Staff to wear face masks when moving around inside the school building 

·   Assemblies to be cancelled

·   Siblings of children who have tested positive must not come into school until a negative PCR is obtained

·  Children of adults who have tested positive must not come into school until a negative PCR is obtained

·   If there are 3 or more cases in one class, we will classify the whole class as ‘close contacts’ and all children and staff would need to have a PCR test

 

I know whenever more restrictions come in place they bring with them a feeling that things are getting worse and yes cases are rising. However, I see these as positive measures we can take to help keep each other safe. If you have any questions, please email me, including your contact details, and I will phone you.

 

Thank you for your continued support

Kind regards,

I'm sure covid will now pay attention and stop because of Kind Regards opinion on what is positive measures as they worked so well for the last 18 months.

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20 minutes ago, dgul said:

Son#1's school got jabbed this past week.

He was home all day today and, surprisingly, doing his homework unprompted.

Why aren't you out with your mates?  say I.

Everyone is sick.  They're not even on Xbox.

 

Roughly what percentage were sufficiently brainwashed enough to take the wholly unnecessary 'vaccine' ?

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3 minutes ago, fishman said:

Roughly what percentage were sufficiently brainwashed enough to take the wholly unnecessary 'vaccine' ?

Dunno.  Son#1 says 'lots'.  It includes all is friends.  It appears greater than the 35% suggested as the overall rate for England.  Probably a middle class thing.

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6 minutes ago, dgul said:

Dunno.  Son#1 says 'lots'.  It includes all is friends.  It appears greater than the 35% suggested as the overall rate for England.  Probably a middle class thing.

Mind boggling. I guess it boils down to having absolute faith in authority - can't think of any other reason. 

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Hail the Tripod
12 minutes ago, dgul said:

Dunno.  Son#1 says 'lots'.  It includes all is friends.  It appears greater than the 35% suggested as the overall rate for England.  Probably a middle class thing.

My son said he thought “more than half”.

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Surrounded by idiots
1 hour ago, dgul said:

Dunno.  Son#1 says 'lots'.  It includes all is friends.  It appears greater than the 35% suggested as the overall rate for England.  Probably a middle class thing.

Do you have a source for the 35% figure? Would be useful for an ongoing discussion I'm having... Thx

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20 minutes ago, Surrounded by idiots said:

Do you have a source for the 35% figure? Would be useful for an ongoing discussion I'm having... Thx

It was in the Guardian yesterday -- I didn't chase it to see the source (DoE, apparently).

It was in their 'covid stream' -- this link should get to the specific bit.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/oct/15/coronavirus-live-uk-booster-shot-rollout-for-vulnerable-a-chaotic-failure-covid-pass-now-mandatory-for-all-workers-in-italy?CMP=share_btn_tw&page=with:block-616974718f08a7f186b29370#block-616974718f08a7f186b29370

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